Gordon Ryan undergoes insane physical decline due to serious health issues

[rjmbrd]

That's interesting and all but irrelevant to the question which you did not answer. "Would you have said he was on by looking at him?"

If I was paying attention to him at 40 years old, yes of course.

When someone late in their career puts on substantial mass this is an obvious red flag. Nobody was paying attention to him as an old fart because he was over a decade removed from relevance.

 

[deadshot138]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TIEW_d-P8qA?feature=share

I think I hate Gordon Ryan lol

 

[StopDucking]

If I was paying attention to him at 40 years old, yes of course.

When someone late in their career puts on substantial mass this is an obvious red flag. Nobody was paying attention to him as an old fart because he was over a decade removed from relevance.

You’re doing a lot of dodging and mental gymnastics not to admit you were wrong and the eye test isn’t enough to prove somebody isn’t on steroids. Ffs, you even came up with fake numbers for Royce Gracie’s weight to back up your argument then acted like nothing happened after getting debunked.

Josh Barnett tested positive three fucking times and look at him: he looks pathetic.

 

[rjmbrd]

You’re doing a lot of dodging and mental gymnastics not to admit you were wrong and the eye test isn’t enough to prove somebody isn’t on steroids. Ffs, you even came up with fake numbers for Royce Gracie’s weight to back up your argument then acted like nothing happened after getting debunked.

Josh Barnett tested positive three fucking times and look at him: he looks pathetic.

I have no idea what your talking about. What got debunked?

The answer is unequivocally yes, if I was paying attention to Royce it would have looked suspect that he put on substantial weight in his 40's. That is common sense.

I'm not even sure if you are trolling?

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

The eye test can confirm obvious non-use to use cases (or radical changes in baseline over time more generally).

But the eye test can't confirm non-use, since there is overlap in distribution between legit gains of X percentage and non-legit gains of X percentage (reaching the same level but as a function of less work+PEDs instead of more work+no PEDs)

That's how I've seen it as an athlete/fan over time.

 

[winterbike]

The eye test can confirm obvious non-use to use cases (or radical changes in baseline over time more generally).

That's a great take. My favorite is when actors get a second puberty at 35 years old and show their ''special hardcore workout'' of doing curls and Smith machine half-squats.

 

[yetanother]

Josh Barnett tested positive three fucking times and look at him: he looks pathetic.

Would bet Barnett is pretty strong, it's just that everyone looks like shit when fat.