GOP should be losing their base on social issues

[HockeyBjj]

The only platform they've stayed on has been anti-immigration, and there's a lot more bark than bite on it

We've had close to a year and a half of Republican Congress, Senate, President, and a right leaning supreme court

There have been no attempts to make abortion illegal on a national level, not a whisper to turn back gay marriage or even trannys in bathrooms, and there has been more anti-gun legislation passed and proposals with them in charge than there ever was under Obama

If Dems are clever these midterms, they will get some Evangelical looking ads to attack the GOP for its failures to the Christian right, and Libertarian based ones for allowing second amendment to be chipped away at under their watch

Not arguing for one side or the other that these things have come to pass, just really want to point out the hypocrisy that they have all the power right now and are staying very, very silent on the issues they use to get votes out of the always vote red folk

 

[Deleted member 457759]

GOP should be screaming from the mountain tops about schools in the inner cities and prepare to spend billions on the problem. Jack the black vote from those sleazy dems.

 

[ScottE]

GOP had no plan for actually governing after the election. From the top down. Trump never had a gameplan for his campaign promises and the GOP Congress forgot what it's like when you actually have to pass legislation.

 

[bobgeese]

The Republican Party is not the same party it was 20 years ago. A large portion of the party is now former democrats. See myself, and the president as examples.

The days of the religious right leading the party are over.

 

[HockeyBjj]

GOP should be screaming from the mountain tops about schools in the inner cities and prepare to spend billions on the problem. Jack the black vote from those sleazy dems.

*should. But aren't. I agree there are many things Repubs could be doing that would cement a decade to 20 years of control, and they are absolutely failing on it

Lower military spending by 5-10%. Use that money on a grand infrastructure plan and education overhaul. Bam, dynasty

The Republican Party is not the same party it was 20 years ago. A large portion of the party is now former democrats. See myself, and the president as examples.

The days of the religious right leading the party are over.

Your 1st statement is correct in ways, and your 2nd statement brought up something I've noticed in the past election cycle and made more a lightbulb realization just now. It's more like the Conservative Right is leading the religious right now. So-called evangelicals are more listening to political right speakers to define their worldly viewpoints; than listening to religious speakers (and doing own self biblical study) to help define their political viewpoints

 

[Johnny Mac]

Unfortunately, Republicans have moved further to the left and are now where the Democrats used to be. The Democrat Party is too far gone now, so they don't even have a chance at my vote.

 

[panamaican]

The national GOP of the last 30 years was never all that into social issues except a platform from which to differentiate themselves from the Dems. The Dems were into social issues and the opponents of those issues needed a home, the GOP accepted them. But the GOP's core constituency is and always has been the economically successful. The rich and big business. Helping those 2 groups keep more of their money out of the hands of the government.

And to be fair, the Dems aren't into social issues so much as they're into the economically unsuccessful and the economically unsuccessful tend to be dealing with a range of overlapping social issues.

 

[Seano]

The only platform they've stayed on has been anti-immigration, and there's a lot more bark than bite on it

We've had close to a year and a half of Republican Congress, Senate, President, and a right leaning supreme court

There have been no attempts to make abortion illegal on a national level, not a whisper to turn back gay marriage or even trannys in bathrooms, and there has been more anti-gun legislation passed and proposals with them in charge than there ever was under Obama

If Dems are clever these midterms, they will get some Evangelical looking ads to attack the GOP for its failures to the Christian right, and Libertarian based ones for allowing second amendment to be chipped away at under their watch

Not arguing for one side or the other that these things have come to pass, just really want to point out the hypocrisy that they have all the power right now and are staying very, very silent on the issues they use to get votes out of the always vote red folk

Isn't it supposed to be a good thing that gay marriage isn't an issue anymore?

 

[milliniar]

The only platform they've stayed on has been anti-immigration, and there's a lot more bark than bite on it

We've had close to a year and a half of Republican Congress, Senate, President, and a right leaning supreme court

There have been no attempts to make abortion illegal on a national level, not a whisper to turn back gay marriage or even trannys in bathrooms, and there has been more anti-gun legislation passed and proposals with them in charge than there ever was under Obama

If Dems are clever these midterms, they will get some Evangelical looking ads to attack the GOP for its failures to the Christian right, and Libertarian based ones for allowing second amendment to be chipped away at under their watch

Not arguing for one side or the other that these things have come to pass, just really want to point out the hypocrisy that they have all the power right now and are staying very, very silent on the issues they use to get votes out of the always vote red folk

So what are those ads supposed to say, the republicans failed to act on these so vote Dem and again they won't do anything about these issues?

 

[Fawlty]

I'm good thanks, no desire for the Republicans to start pushing Christian wedge issues to the point of insanity again.

 

[ScottE]

So what are those ads supposed to say, the republicans failed to act on these so vote Dem and again they won't do anything about these issues?

I think he's saying run those ads in the hope they just won't vote or will vote third party, not that they will switch to D.

 

[HockeyBjj]

I'm good thanks, no desire for the Republicans to start pushing Christian wedge issues to the point of insanity again.

Not trying to bring those back, more trying to show Christians shouldn’t simply default vote for Republicans

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Dem are too dumb to realize republicans aren't actually the people in their memes.

 

[Fawlty]

Not trying to bring those back, more trying to show Christians shouldn’t simply default vote for Republicans

Gay marriage, abortion and trans people are massive Christian wedge issues though, and it's not as if there is anywhere else to turn for support for Christian beliefs on those issues. The Democrats aren't interested in Sharia Law. I would agree however that people should reduce the political value they place on religious wedge issues, so they stop being tricked into supporting people whose explicit goal is to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

 

[Headkicktoleg]

Gay marriage, abortion and trans people are massive Christian wedge issues though, and it's not as if there is anywhere else to turn for support for Christian beliefs on those issues. The Democrats aren't interested in Sharia Law. I would agree however that people should reduce the political value they place on religious wedge issues, so they stop being tricked into supporting people whose explicit goal is to make the rich richer and poor poorer.

So sad that you don't realize that's the dem leader's goals too.

 

[Fawlty]

So sad that you don't realize that's the dem leader's goals too.

muh both sides

 

[Headkicktoleg]

muh both sides

omg you repeated what I said in a comical way, now it's completely untrue!

 

[ralphc1]

The only platform they've stayed on has been anti-immigration, and there's a lot more bark than bite on it

We've had close to a year and a half of Republican Congress, Senate, President, and a right leaning supreme court

There have been no attempts to make abortion illegal on a national level, not a whisper to turn back gay marriage or even trannys in bathrooms, and there has been more anti-gun legislation passed and proposals with them in charge than there ever was under Obama

If Dems are clever these midterms, they will get some Evangelical looking ads to attack the GOP for its failures to the Christian right, and Libertarian based ones for allowing second amendment to be chipped away at under their watch

Not arguing for one side or the other that these things have come to pass, just really want to point out the hypocrisy that they have all the power right now and are staying very, very silent on the issues they use to get votes out of the always vote red folk

In case you hadn't noticed, republican voters don't care what the people they elected do. Donald Trump stated;

I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

I suspect he could rape, torture and kill the 16 year old daughter of some Trump voters on live television in Times Square and not even lose her parent's vote let alone any other of his voters.

 

[Fawlty]

omg you repeated what I said in a comical way, now it's completely untrue!

Spoiler

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

The only platform they've stayed on has been anti-immigration, and there's a lot more bark than bite on it

We've had close to a year and a half of Republican Congress, Senate, President, and a right leaning supreme court

There have been no attempts to make abortion illegal on a national level, not a whisper to turn back gay marriage or even trannys in bathrooms, and there has been more anti-gun legislation passed and proposals with them in charge than there ever was under Obama

If Dems are clever these midterms, they will get some Evangelical looking ads to attack the GOP for its failures to the Christian right, and Libertarian based ones for allowing second amendment to be chipped away at under their watch

Not arguing for one side or the other that these things have come to pass, just really want to point out the hypocrisy that they have all the power right now and are staying very, very silent on the issues they use to get votes out of the always vote red folk

I do see a lot of discontent from people who voted republican. I think voter turnout will be an issue for the GOP.

That said, the craziness of the far left and the inability for the center left and center right to rein them in is helping opportunists like Trump and more staunchly right wing types. The often deranged attacks on groups like the NRA are what Second Amendment types are focused on, and those are much more heavily linked to Dems than the GOP.