Elections GOP 2016 Primary Thread V5: 2 Hispanics and a Bigot Walk into an Election Edition

[Titus002]

You should have listened.

 

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Prominent Televangelist Says He Will Endorse Donald Trump

Days before the first Southern primary of 2016, Mike Murdock, a prominent Texas-based televangelist, will formally endorse Republican Donald Trump for president at a rally in Greenville, South Carolina, on Monday.

“He has a warrior spirit for restoring America in the eyes of the world and he has a warrior’s heart,” said Murdock, the head pastor at the Wisdom Center ministry, told Bloomberg News in an interview. “I am endorsing him for president.”

 

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What that Cruz-Rubio ‘He doesn’t speak Spanish’ thing was about

There is a dark period in American history. It's one to which some Americans seem eager to return. It's one when people were barred, shamed or even punished for speaking languages other than English. That was especially true outside the home.
Speaking a foreign language or limited English was very widely believed to be an indicator of suspect national loyalty, limited intelligence or ability. Speaking a foreign language simply was not regarded as a useful skill.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Jim Gilmore suspends campaign

I'm sure his wife and kids have a very hard decision of who they're now going to support.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

What that Cruz-Rubio ‘He doesn’t speak Spanish’ thing was about

Anyone else think that reply from Rubio was clever, but petty? Um, Marco, are you really so arrogant to think that just because you were speaking Spanish to a Spanish-speaking audience, that it is some uncrackable code to those that only speak English? That he's one of the few that can speak both languages?

And another detail that people like to gloss over is that Cruz spoke Spanish right to Marco after the clever remark that Cruz didn't speak Spanish.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Listened to the debate again today, and one thing really stood out to me about Cruz. He didn't respond directly to the multiple accusations that he is a liar, from Rubio and Trump.

If he doesn't respond to it the next time, people are going to think he doesn't have a reply to it, because it's true, and would rather just move onto another subject.

If Cruz isn't careful, it's a smear that'll stick to him for a very long time.

 

[Lead]

Anyone else think that reply from Rubio was clever, but petty? Um, Marco, are you really so arrogant to think that just because you were speaking Spanish to a Spanish-speaking audience, that it is some uncrackable code to those that only speak English? That he's one of the few that can speak both languages?

And another detail that people like to gloss over is that Cruz spoke Spanish right to Marco after the clever remark that Cruz didn't speak Spanish.

"Marco, si quieres ... ahora el mismo, díselo ahora, en Espanol, si quieres." (That translates roughly to "Marco, if you want ... right now, say it right now, in Spanish, if you want.")

So, we’re going to have to be frank and tell those of you who don’t speak Spanish that what Cruz said was the kind of grammatically unorthodox thing you might say when flustered, when non-fluent and or when trying intentionally to sound tough. We can’t say for sure which of those three really dominated Cruz’s response here. Only Cruz really knows.

The exchange was just funny in the sense that a GOP primary had two candidates arguing over who could speak Spanish. I want Carson and even Kasich off the stage at this point. This is a 3-4 man race now and this last debate showed it a lot with Jeb v. Trump and Cruz v. Rubio while Carson and Kasich faded into irrelevance.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

The exchange was just funny in the sense that a GOP primary had two candidates arguing over who could speak Spanish. I want Carson and even Kasich off the stage at this point. This is a 3-4 man race now and this last debate showed it a lot with Jeb v. Trump and Cruz v. Rubio while Carson and Kasich faded into irrelevance.

I want that too, but Kasich won't budge for reasons I've already stated. He's an establishment candidate that's splitting the non-Trump vote, and that's his role.

 

[Lead]

I want that too, but Kasich won't budge for reasons I've already stated. He's an establishment candidate that's splitting the non-Trump vote, and that's his role.

You're saying Kasich is working to make Trump win on purpose?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You're saying Kasich is working to make Trump win on purpose?

It wouldn't surprise me.

If Carson doesn't drop out after SC, it's only because he knows his support would mostly go to Cruz, and there may be more personal animosity behind the scenes than we know.

 

[ucunc156]

Lol the debate was the most entertaining republican debate to date. The republican part baffles me. Its the same party who has a candidate say all mexicans are rapists and murderers and that there should be a temporary ban on all muslims entering the country (whether he believes either of those things or not is irrelevant, he has a certain amount of supporters within the party that believes that). And at the same time, the part has two people arguing who speaks better spanish.

 

[soonerphil]

He never said all Mexicans were rapists and murderers......I'm not a Trump fan......but that's not what he said.

 

[Adamant]

Do you guys think Nikki Haley is going to be the VP pick? I heard Jeb mention her and it made me think that's who he'd go for. I wonder if she would accept for Jeb, Cruz, or Rubio?

 

[ucunc156]

He never said all Mexicans were rapists and murderers......I'm not a Trump fan......but that's not what he said.

He insinuated a good amount of illegals are rapists and murderers. I of course am generalizing, and nitpicking that comment doesn't negate the point of my post.

 

[Arkain2K]

The republican part baffles me. Its the same party who has a candidate say all mexicans are rapists and murderers

He never said all Mexicans were rapists and murderers......I'm not a Trump fan......but that's not what he said.

He insinuated a good amount of illegals are rapists and murderers. I of course am generalizing, and nitpicking that comment doesn't negate the point of my post.

Yes, it does, and the irony of your post backfired precisely because you chose to lie even worse than Donald Duck ever did. His hyperbole at least have some truth in it, yours is just a complete fabrication.

The extensive list of violent crimes that illegal Mexican immigrants have committed on American soil that Trump brought up isn't necessarily a representation of the law-abiding Mexican-American community, and Donald Duck has never said such a thing.

The things that the law-abiding Mexican-American community are known for in the U.S isn't necessarily a representation of all Mexicans around the world (certainly not the folks who kept making news headlines in the border towns), and Donald Duck has never insenuated that either.

Trump has never make such claims about all Mexicans. You did. And then you're baffled by the imaginary thing you've just invented. It's kinda amazing, actually.

If Trump's hyperboles is a 5 out of 10, I'd say your blatant lie and subsequent self-baffling at your own strawman made it pales in comparison at 15.

 

[ucunc156]

Just like ILLEGAL immigration is the assumed talking point of "immigration" when mentioned on a debate, it can easily be assumed I was talking about ILLEGAL mexicans when I brought up the trump quote about mexicans being murderers and rapists.

If you would like to provide to me a reasonable stat that says X% of illegal latinos are rapists and murderers that it would even be somewhat representative, then I will revoke my claim.

 

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Cruz skewers Trump’s sister in Supreme Court debate

Ted Cruz on Monday pledged to make the presidential election a “referendum” on the U.S. Supreme Court, ramping up efforts to make that issue one more increasingly personal point of contention with Donald Trump, his biggest rival here ahead of the South Carolina primary.

“The one person Donald has pointed to as a potential Supreme Court nominee is his sister,” Cruz told reporters here Monday, though Trump opened Saturday night’s debate by name-checking federal judges Bill Pryor and Diane Sykes. “Now, it’s good to stand with your sister. But Donald’s sister was a Bill Clinton-appointed federal appellate judge who’s a radical pro-abortion extremist.”

Surprised this didn't come up in the debate. These campaigns need to do better prepping. I understand that Scalia was within hours of it but for not a single damn guy to bring up his sister when the debate is set on supreme court nominees was baffling.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Cruz skewers Trump’s sister in Supreme Court debate

Surprised this didn't come up in the debate. These campaigns need to do better prepping. I understand that Scalia was within hours of it but for not a single damn guy to bring up his sister when the debate is set on supreme court nominees was baffling.

Attacking a candidate's family is Trump's niche.

 

[Krallang]

Why are there more democrats arguing about the Republican nominees then republicans in this thread?

just found it a bit strange reading through the last 2 pages. Were still a few months out, save the animosity till the GE

 

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Why are there more democrats arguing about the Republican nominees then republicans in this thread?

just found it a bit strange reading through the last 2 pages. Were still a few months out, save the animosity till the GE

A lot of the liberal posters come into a thread, say something along lines of republicans are retarded and them laughing about it and leave. It's their way of contribution. On the other side of it though, I'd say most of the better posters on here are liberal as well. The conservative posters either seem to be in the middle of the pack or completely off the cliff in logic. We use to have that with HollywoodNicky on the liberal side but no one has really filled that gap since which is good imo.

Acually thinking of starting a counter on that single statement containing "republicans" intelligence-slur, and them laughing.