Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[Renard]

They're trying to manufacture consent for a return of mask mandates. It's a manipulation technique based on conformity, which is very effective. Tell people "everyone" is doing X, and they're likely to do X as well. There was a psychology study set in a hotel and inside the hotel rooms they put different message that tried to convince people to re-use their towels and then measured how many towels were used to see which messages worked. Most messages were totally ineffective, for example "Re-use your towels to save planet" didn't do much. One of the messages was something like "Please re-use your towels, 75% of hotel guests re-use their towels." THAT worked very well. Of course the number in the message was totally made up, they just picked a random high percentage. All that matters is that people perceive it's real and they get influenced.

As effective as it is though, I'm not convinced they can get Ontarians to mask up again. Even Canadians are pretty done with this Covid stuff. They keep running these kind of headlines and it keeps getting ignored.

 

[maximus__]

I'd argue that if life would have continued as normal, actually allowing the virus to spread and confer natural immunity, we would have seen the epidemic end FAR sooner and with less death as we would have reached herd immunity rather quickly, reducing current spread instead of keeping people separated and then acting shocked when cases went back up as things slowly went back to normal.



You can't govern everyone under the assumption that everyone will comply. People will do what they want when it comes to taking their own risks. Anyone who wishes to avert risk should do what they think is appropriate aswell while also considering their own risk compared to that of the general population.



The lockdowns were stupid regardless of what actions anyone was taking. Everyone is going to get covid. We knew since fairly early on that it was going to be endemic. No amount of masking, injections, isolation or even fleeing the country was going to stop anyone from getting it. At that point, we should have just ripped the band-aid off and let it spread; the sooner we reached herd immunity the better shot we had at stopping the virus.

There are people in this thread still arguing, in contravention of all of the publicly available data that the lockdowns had a net benefit on loss of life. I strongly disagree. I personally did nothing to avoid covid and am statistically likely to have had an asymptomatic case. I am not in any high risk population and I wasn't afraid. I just lived my life



There is a contradiction in your logic here. It's obvious that the death toll from covid was extremely inflated by not distinguishing between death "with" covid vs death "from" covid. If anything that makes the current non-covid excess death rate even all the more extreme. Excess deaths are up 15%+ (in some places 20%+) when compared to the excess death numbers from 2016-2019. This is the most statically significant rise in non-war related death rates ever. It starts in 2021 and is still continuing today depite covid effectively having mutated to the lethality of a common flu.

What environmental factors changed in 2021 on such a global scale? The combination of the injections and the government Covid policies are causing more death than they prevented. I predict the excess deaths will remain above 10% above normal and gradually decline as fewer and fewer people keep coming back for the shots.

Everything you are saying is the same arguments used by the panic merchants to put these lockdowns and restrictions in place. Case load? Who cares? It didn't matter during covid and it sure as hell doesn't matter now. Same with vaccinations. Show me the bodies in the streets or are we going with vaccine related motorbike deaths now? It's exactly the same clickbait crap, I thought it was stupid on the vaccine side and it's even more stupid now.

I have no issues with reasonable rules around quarantine early in the pandemic. At that time it was a death sentence for certain groups within the population and we had no viable treatment data.
I personally don't think vaccination was the way to go and agree we should have let select groups contract it naturally, but that doesn't mean the vaccine is killing anyone.

I live in Australia.We don't have a single death listed as from covid... All are with covid. They even list the vaccine related deaths in our datasets with it somewhere around 11 last time I bothered to check. A bad day of covid deaths here is around 75. Not worth shutting down over and not worth panicking about on either side.

It's the same with this excess death narrative. Actually look at the numbers instead of using the percentages and you see it isn't that bad.17% increase turns into a couple hundred deaths and you look at the age group and it's elderly people. It's sensationalist news reporting to trick gullible people. All these independent journalists are just using CNN tactics to get views.

Just like covid wasn't the end of days virus one side made it out to be, the people now carrying on with the anti vaccine rhetoric are just as stupid.

 

[mon]

Mmm what are all the passengers and staff...

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/maj...on_id=702469&post_id=84046058&isFreemail=true

"Majestic Princess Cruise Ship docks in Aussie with nearly 800-cases of COVID"


Cruise ships are fast becoming seen as a pox ridden whore and the vaxx is as useful as cheese cloth for a condom.

 

[giusti825]

Everything you are saying is the same arguments used by the panic merchants to put these lockdowns and restrictions in place. Case load? Who cares? It didn't matter during covid and it sure as hell doesn't matter now. Same with vaccinations. Show me the bodies in the streets or are we going with vaccine related motorbike deaths now? It's exactly the same clickbait crap, I thought it was stupid on the vaccine side and it's even more stupid now.

I actually agree with most of what you've said in this paragraph. Case loads never mattered. The focus should have been on severe illness and death. I also never cared to know what percentage of the population took the experimental injections, however, this information becomes more important when judging the real life safety of the drugs and the success or failure of the policies during the pandemic.

I have no issues with reasonable rules around quarantine early in the pandemic. At that time it was a death sentence for certain groups within the population and we had no viable treatment data.
I personally don't think vaccination was the way to go and agree we should have let select groups contract it naturally, but that doesn't mean the vaccine is killing anyone.

Firstly, it was never a death sentence. Even the highest risk population had a 94%+ survival rate even when Covid was at its strongest.

Are you kidding? Between the cardiovascular risks and the cloting risks alone, the injections have killed hundreds of thousands and permanently altered the lives of millions. Many of those who have permanent scarring of the heart or neurological complications from the injections were in some of the lowest risk populations. A proper risk-benefit analysis was never conducted on an individual level as the governments and pharmaceutical lobbies stood more to gain from a 1-size-fits-all medical response. Its outrageous.

Despite projections that 75% of children have likely already had a natural infection with covid, and the risk of death from covid being 1 in 2,000,000, the injections were recommended for children. In what universe does this make sense?? The risk for males under 40 for subclinical to severe myocarditis is 1 in 5000. The injections are doing more harm than good when we are at a point where Covid is no worse than the flu for the vast majority of the population.

I live in Australia.We don't have a single death listed as from covid... All are with covid. They even list the vaccine related deaths in our datasets with it somewhere around 11 last time I bothered to check. A bad day of covid deaths here is around 75. Not worth shutting down over and not worth panicking about on either side.

Not according to the Australian Government. And keep in mind, there wasn't a proper distinction made between between death *from* covid vs death *with* covid. Only 5% of the death certificates listed Covid as the sole cause of death.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/h...ovisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release

COVID-19

• Between January and July 2022 there have been 6,651 deaths due to COVID-19 that were certified by a doctor. 1,310 of these deaths occurred in July.
• As the pandemic has progressed the number of people dying with COVID-19 has increased. In July 426 people died with COVID-19 whose underlying cause of death was a disease other than COVID-19.

Other causes of death

• Deaths due to dementia including Alzheimer's disease were 12.9% above the baseline average in July, and 19.8% above the baseline average for the year to July. This equated to an age-standardised death rate of 4.2 per 100,000 people, compared to a baseline average rate of 4.0.
• Deaths due to diabetes were 24.0% above average in July, and were 21.3% higher than the baseline average for the year to July. The age standardised death rate for June was 1.6 per 100,000 people, compared to a baseline average rate of 1.4.
• While the number of deaths due to cancer was above the baseline average in July, the age standardised rate of 12.4 per 100,000 people was below the baseline average rate of 13.0.
• There were 301 deaths due to influenza and pneumonia in July, 16.4% below the baseline average. Of these deaths, 54 were due to influenza (compared to a baseline average of 65) and 247 were due to pneumonia (compared to a baseline average of 295).
  
  
• There have been 252 doctor certified deaths due to influenza between January and July 2022, which is 32.6% above the baseline average.
  
  
• Deaths due to chronic lower respiratory diseases were 1.6% above the baseline average for July, and deaths due to respiratory diseases were average. Chronic lower respiratory diseases and influenza and pneumonia are subsets of respiratory diseases.

It's the same with this excess death narrative. Actually look at the numbers instead of using the percentages and you see it isn't that bad.17% increase turns into a couple hundred deaths and you look at the age group and it's elderly people. It's sensationalist news reporting to trick gullible people. All these independent journalists are just using CNN tactics to get views.

Just like covid wasn't the end of days virus one side made it out to be, the people now carrying on with the anti vaccine rhetoric are just as stupid.

I feel like you're unintentionally leaving out a critical qualifier: excess non-covid deaths. Everything but covid has skyrocketed. A 10%+ higher than normal excess death rate is NOT normal.

There may still be environmental factors that we are not considering that are still contributing to high excess deaths today; and its kind of obvious what a likely culprit might be.

I am telling people to examine data that may save lives. I am not telling them to hide in their homes, not to cover their faces with cloth, not to close their businesses and not to stand arbitrary distances away from others. One of these is logical, the other is hysterical.

 

[mon]

Norman Fenton sinking the boots into a wef owned property.

https://www.normanfenton.com/post/t...596c&cid=6ebb6af1-00f5-45a6-979e-43df850b683b

"The ONS data on vaccine mortality is not fit for purpose"
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"Dear Sir/Madam,


Since the ONS began producing its covid vaccine mortality surveillance reports in 2021, we have been highlighting various anomalies in their datasets. This includes strong evidence that many of those dying shortly after vaccination were being misclassified as unvaccinated (https://doi.org/http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.12472.42248) and systematic undercounting of deaths occurring within first two weeks of vaccination (http://dx.doi.org/10.13140/RG.2.2.12472.42248).


We are especially concerned about the latest ONS dataset (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland) and have produced a detailed analysis which highlights the multiple glaring anomalies in it.


We show that, in addition to further definitive evidence of the misclassification and missing deaths, there is: a) gross underestimation of the population proportion unvaccinated, and b) mortality rates that are both nonsensical in various categories and completely incompatible with historical rates.


We believe that there are multiple violations of your code of practice (https://code.statisticsauthority.go...5/Code-of-Practice-for-Statistics-REVISED.pdf). In particular, the dataset breaches the Quality and Value criteria numbered: Q 1.1, Q1.4 – 1.7, Q 2.4, Q 2.5, Q 3.2 – 3.5, V 1.1, V 3.2 – 3.3.


All of the anomalies in the dataset introduce bias in favour of analyses supporting vaccine ‘safety and efficacy’. The fact that these data are being used as continued justification for the efficacy and safety of the covid vaccines is therefore now a matter of national concern and scandal. We believe that an investigation into how and why the ONS dataset is so flawed and corrupted is required. In the meantime, we call for


1. the public withdrawal of the ONS dataset and

2. the retraction of any claims made by others that are based upon it.


Yours


Norman Fenton, Martin Neil, Clare Craig and Scott McLachlan


Nice to see old mate Norm is getting some backing now.

 

[maximus__]

I actually agree with most of what you've said in this paragraph. Case loads never mattered. The focus should have been on severe illness and death. I also never cared to know what percentage of the population took the experimental injections, however, this information becomes more important when judging the real life safety of the drugs and the success or failure of the policies during the pandemic.



Firstly, it was never a death sentence. Even the highest risk population had a 97%+ survival rate even when Covid was at its strongest.

Are you kidding? Between the cardiovascular risks and the cloting risks alone, the injections have killed hundreds of thousands and permanently altered the lives of millions. Many of those who have permanent scarring of the heart or neurological complications from the injections were in some of the lowest risk populations. A proper risk-benefit analysis was never conducted on an individual level as the governments and pharmaceutical lobbies stood more to gain from a 1-size-fits-all medical response. Its outrageous.

Despite projections that 75% of children have likely already had a natural infection with covid, and the risk of death from covid being 1 in 2,000,000, the injections were recommended for children. In what universe does this make sense?? The risk for males under 40 for subclinical to severe myocarditis is 1 in 5000. The injections are doing more harm than good when we are at a point where Covid is no worse than the flu for the vast majority of the population.



Not according to the Australian Government. And keep in mind, there wasn't a proper distinction made between between death *from* covid vs death *with* covid. Only 5% of the death certificates listed Covid as the sole cause of death.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/h...ovisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release




I feel like you're unintentionally leaving out a critical qualifier: excess non-covid deaths. Everything but covid has skyrocketed. A 10%+ higher than normal excess death rate is NOT normal.

There may still be environmental factors that we are not considering that are still contributing to high excess deaths today; and its kind of obvious what a likely culprit might be.

I am telling people to examine data that may save lives. I am not telling them to hide in their homes, not to cover their faces with cloth, not to close their businesses and not to stand arbitrary distances away from others. One of these is logical, the other is hysterical.

Are you kidding? Between the cardiovascular risks and the cloting risks alone, the injections have killed hundreds of thousands and permanently altered the lives of millions. Many of those who have permanent scarring of the heart or neurological complications from the injections were in some of the lowest risk populations. A proper risk-benefit analysis was never conducted on an individual level as the governments and pharmaceutical lobbies stood more to gain from a 1-size-fits-all medical response. Its outrageous.

Bullshit. This is completely unproven and exactly what I am talking about. Just like the panic merchants with covid, saying this without any proof is the issue.
I don't think the vaccines should have been mandated and I never support kids being made to have them, but it's just a flu shot.

It isn't killing people, it hasn't caused lifelong damage for hundreds and thousands of people. It was a risk assessment based off either catching covid and having complications or having some protection from the covid vaccine. I could sit here and point out the actual virus that ran rampart through the world for a period of two years being just as likely as the vaccine to be the possible cause of excess mortality, but that would make too much sense. Instead you sit here and pick the side that justifies your views and base all your opinions off that.

Never mind the fact we had a two year period were people were unable to get full access to medical treatment, with the majoirty of med appointments going online.
I wonder why we have an increase in cancer, alzheimer and heart related disease following covid.


Note: There is a recent change in the way this graph is presented. Previously, the number of COVID-19 infections were reported alongside deaths. With changes in the way infections are detected (i.e. the use of both Rapid Antigen Tests (RAT) and Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) tests) and reported the graph was no longer considered robust for measuring the pattern of mortality against infection rates. Instead, the number of overall deaths and the number of overall deaths without COVID-19 as an underlying cause of death are presented. This provides an indication of how COVID-19 has contributed to the pattern of mortality over time.

From your reference. They changed the data set since I last referenced it. Now they do include covid deaths certified by a doctor or coroner.

You are just doing exactly what they did to justify lock downs and mandates. People die and have covid, therefore people are dying of covid.
Lot's of people are vaccinated, we have an increase in deaths,therefore the vaccine killed them.
It doesn't matter when they had it, what they had or whether in lot's of cases they even had it. All deaths must be the vaccine because people had it. It doesn't work for covid and shouldn't be used the other way either.

I will clarify my position. I don't agree with lock downs, mandates and people calling the vaccine a death shot.I am happy to call out the bullshit manipulation of data that happened on both sides.
i think the lock downs did way more to contribute to all the factors you are mentioning, which was foreseeable once they became extended. vaccines are not killing people, they are just a flu shot for variants that don't exist currently. I only ever took approved vaccines at any point during the pandemic. I didn't take anything that was experimental at any point.

I couldn't care what people think until they start blaming the vaccine for every little thing that has gone wrong in 2022.

 

[giusti825]

Are you kidding? Between the cardiovascular risks and the cloting risks alone, the injections have killed hundreds of thousands and permanently altered the lives of millions. Many of those who have permanent scarring of the heart or neurological complications from the injections were in some of the lowest risk populations. A proper risk-benefit analysis was never conducted on an individual level as the governments and pharmaceutical lobbies stood more to gain from a 1-size-fits-all medical response. Its outrageous.

Bullshit. This is completely unproven and exactly what I am talking about. Just like the panic merchants with covid, saying this without any proof is the issue.
I don't think the vaccines should have been mandated and I never support kids being made to have them, but it's just a flu shot.

It isn't killing people, it hasn't caused lifelong damage for hundreds and thousands of people. It was a risk assessment based off either catching covid and having complications or having some protection from the covid vaccine. I could sit here and point out the actual virus that ran rampart through the world for a period of two years being just as likely as the vaccine to be the possible cause of excess mortality, but that would make too much sense. Instead you sit here and pick the side that justifies your views and base all your opinions off that.

Never mind the fact we had a two year period were people were unable to get full access to medical treatment, with the majoirty of med appointments going online.
I wonder why we have an increase in cancer, alzheimer and heart related disease following covid.


Note: There is a recent change in the way this graph is presented. Previously, the number of COVID-19 infections were reported alongside deaths. With changes in the way infections are detected (i.e. the use of both Rapid Antigen Tests (RAT) and Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) tests) and reported the graph was no longer considered robust for measuring the pattern of mortality against infection rates. Instead, the number of overall deaths and the number of overall deaths without COVID-19 as an underlying cause of death are presented. This provides an indication of how COVID-19 has contributed to the pattern of mortality over time.

From your reference. They changed the data set since I last referenced it. Now they do include covid deaths certified by a doctor or coroner.

You are just doing exactly what they did to justify lock downs and mandates. People die and have covid, therefore people are dying of covid.
Lot's of people are vaccinated, we have an increase in deaths,therefore the vaccine killed them.
It doesn't matter when they had it, what they had or whether in lot's of cases they even had it. All deaths must be the vaccine because people had it. It doesn't work for covid and shouldn't be used the other way either.

I will clarify my position. I don't agree with lock downs, mandates and people calling the vaccine a death shot.I am happy to call out the bullshit manipulation of data that happened on both sides.
i think the lock downs did way more to contribute to all the factors you are mentioning, which was foreseeable once they became extended. vaccines are not killing people, they are just a flu shot for variants that don't exist currently. I only ever took approved vaccines at any point during the pandemic. I didn't take anything that was experimental at any point.

I couldn't care what people think until they start blaming the vaccine for every little thing that has gone wrong in 2022.

Yes.....all the antivaxxers that ran out to take the injections are making false reports to make themselves look stupid for taking it. That makes far more sense than the injections actually causing harm.

https://openvaers.com/

It's also important to keep in mind that Vaccine Adverse Events have historically been and continue to be severely underreported.

https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters

This page breaks things down further.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data

EDIT: They even have a page breaking down reports relating to children only. Injecting children with this stuff should be criminal. There have been 166 child deaths from the injections just in the United States. If a childs projected risk of death from Covid is 1 in 2,000,000, and there are only 73 million children in the United States, then THE INJECTIONS HAVE ALREADY KILLED MORE THAN 5X MORE CHILDREN THAN THEY CAN POSSIBLY HOPE TO SAVE, and yet the CDC and FDA is still recommending them for children???? This should be a national scandal.

EDIT EDIT: Only 37% of American children have received a Covid vaccine and there are already more than 5X the deaths from the injection than would likely happen from Covid. This program needs to stop immediately. In a hypothetical world where 100% of American children get injected, and the effects remain consistent, we could be looking at over 400 child deaths from injection as opposed to the 36 that would be projected to die of Covid 19 infection.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/child-summaries

I have lost all faith in the public health establishment. People involved in medical care or public health decision making should not be receiving any incentive, any of their funding or be in any way on the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies.

When the research organizations, universities, media organizations, regulators and politicians are all taking large sums of money from the pharmaceutical companies, who is left to protect the public??

Its also important to note that VAERS ONLY counts people and adverse events in the United States.

 

[Nimrod]

I will clarify my position. I don't agree with lock downs, mandates and people calling the vaccine a death shot.I am happy to call out the bullshit manipulation of data that happened on both sides.
i think the lock downs did way more to contribute to all the factors you are mentioning, which was foreseeable once they became extended. vaccines are not killing people, they are just a flu shot for variants that don't exist currently. I only ever took approved vaccines at any point during the pandemic. I didn't take anything that was experimental at any point.

I couldn't care what people think until they start blaming the vaccine for every little thing that has gone wrong in 2022.

Spoken like a person that doesn't want to admit they took a poison into their system because they were afraid of a cold..
Now having huge regret.

Poor you.

 

[giusti825]

I only ever took approved vaccines at any point during the pandemic. I didn't take anything that was experimental at any point.

Which injection did you take? To my knowledge, none of them had undergone any long term testing that would normally be required for approval.

In the United States, all of the injections were administered under Emergency Use Authorization. The only FDA Approved injection (Comirnaty) was never available in the United States.

You don't see a medication rushed to market in 3 months as experimental? ok.

 

[Nimrod]

Which injection did you take? To my knowledge, none of them had undergone any long term testing that would normally be required for approval.

In the United States, all of the injections were administered under Emergency Use Authorization. The only FDA Approved injection (Comirnaty) was never available in the United States.

You don't see a medication rushed to market in 3 months as experimental? ok.

He took approved vaccines .. lol

That were rushed to market by Trump and big pharma with massive funding to the bodies that approve drugs..

And nothing is wrong with this..

These are supposed to be intelligent people on here, but yet they can't use any amount of basic discernment when it come to what they put into their bodies..

 

[mon]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclu...cJR09fPEDXX9d9q49D2sOnbcpDUpajsROJNmg+J5UGaLc

"EXCLUSIVE: More Documented Cases of COVID Vaccine Injuries in Canadian Military Than COVID Hospitalizations
Military notes decrease in hospitalization following vaccination, while lawyer concerned that vaccine injuries outnumber COVID-19 hospitalizations"

Can fool some of the people all the time or all the people some of the time but not all the people all the time. Starting to really unravel at the seems.


"Figures provided by the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) to The Epoch Times show that the military has registered 324 adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccination, with 23 deemed serious. The total number of hospitalizations in the forces due to COVID-19 itself is 16.
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Gagnon added there have been no deaths from COVID-19 vaccination"


Tbh I'd take the last paragraph about deaths with a grain if salt until I had compared it to a 5 year average. I'm too busy at the moment but that would be worth digging into for a Canadian that wanted to assess whether the fraud includes the deaths of their sevice men.

 

[mon]

Yes.....all the antivaxxers that ran out to take the injections are making false reports to make themselves look stupid for taking it. That makes far more sense than the injections actually causing harm.

https://openvaers.com/

It's also important to keep in mind that Vaccine Adverse Events have historically been and continue to be severely underreported.

https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters

This page breaks things down further.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data

EDIT: They even have a page breaking down reports relating to children only. Injecting children with this stuff should be criminal. There have been 166 child deaths from the injections just in the United States. If a childs projected risk of death from Covid is 1 in 2,000,000, and there are only 73 million children in the United States, then THE INJECTIONS HAVE ALREADY KILLED MORE THAN 5X MORE CHILDREN THAN THEY CAN POSSIBLY HOPE TO SAVE, and yet the CDC and FDA is still recommending them for children???? This should be a national scandal.

EDIT EDIT: Only 37% of American children have received a Covid vaccine and there are already more than 5X the deaths from the injection than would likely happen from Covid. This program needs to stop immediately. In a hypothetical world where 100% of American children get injected, and the effects remain consistent, we could be looking at over 400 child deaths from injection as opposed to the 36 that would be projected to die of Covid 19 infection.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/child-summaries

I have lost all faith in the public health establishment. People involved in medical care or public health decision making should not be receiving any incentive, any of their funding or be in any way on the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies.

When the research organizations, universities, media organizations, regulators and politicians are all taking large sums of money from the pharmaceutical companies, who is left to protect the public??

Its also important to note that VAERS ONLY counts people and adverse events in the United States.

If Steve Kirsch us correct in reality that figure is woefully underreported by a factor of 5 times. AND thats times the woefully under reported vaccine injuries due to the stigma, censorship etc of the jab. Very good listening all around and Steve Kirsch is fighting and using his own money, obviously a grifter though ....

https://rumble.com/v1t0608-the-elep....-covid-fatality-data-breakdown-with-ste.html

 

[EndlessCritic]

They're trying to manufacture consent for a return of mask mandates. It's a manipulation technique based on conformity, which is very effective. Tell people "everyone" is doing X, and they're likely to do X as well. There was a psychology study set in a hotel and inside the hotel rooms they put different message that tried to convince people to re-use their towels and then measured how many towels were used to see which messages worked. Most messages were totally ineffective, for example "Re-use your towels to save planet" didn't do much. One of the messages was something like "Please re-use your towels, 75% of hotel guests re-use their towels." THAT worked very well. Of course the number in the message was totally made up, they just picked a random high percentage. All that matters is that people perceive it's real and they get influenced.

As effective as it is though, I'm not convinced they can get Ontarians to mask up again. Even Canadians are pretty done with this Covid stuff. They keep running these kind of headlines and it keeps getting ignored.

Nope. Far worse than manufactured consent. They're encouraging private entities to impose their own mask mandates. It's even worse than manufacturing acquiescence to government mandates.

 

[aerius]

Question for the other folks here: are you getting a bunch of sponsored ads for medical trials on your social media and other internet feeds? Normally the ads I get are for real estate, food & restaurants, and camping/outdoors stuff but starting around 3-4 weeks ago I started seeing ads for various medical trials, and as of this week half the shit is medical trial ads. A bunch of them were related to cancer & heart disease (gee, I wonder what would cause that?) and when I looked up what some of the other ones were it turned out that most of them are for conditions which are known to be caused by the clot shots.

 

[maximus__]

Yes.....all the antivaxxers that ran out to take the injections are making false reports to make themselves look stupid for taking it. That makes far more sense than the injections actually causing harm.

https://openvaers.com/

It's also important to keep in mind that Vaccine Adverse Events have historically been and continue to be severely underreported.

https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters

This page breaks things down further.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data

EDIT: They even have a page breaking down reports relating to children only. Injecting children with this stuff should be criminal. There have been 166 child deaths from the injections just in the United States. If a childs projected risk of death from Covid is 1 in 2,000,000, and there are only 73 million children in the United States, then THE INJECTIONS HAVE ALREADY KILLED MORE THAN 5X MORE CHILDREN THAN THEY CAN POSSIBLY HOPE TO SAVE, and yet the CDC and FDA is still recommending them for children???? This should be a national scandal.

EDIT EDIT: Only 37% of American children have received a Covid vaccine and there are already more than 5X the deaths from the injection than would likely happen from Covid. This program needs to stop immediately. In a hypothetical world where 100% of American children get injected, and the effects remain consistent, we could be looking at over 400 child deaths from injection as opposed to the 36 that would be projected to die of Covid 19 infection.

https://openvaers.com/covid-data/child-summaries

I have lost all faith in the public health establishment. People involved in medical care or public health decision making should not be receiving any incentive, any of their funding or be in any way on the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies.

When the research organizations, universities, media organizations, regulators and politicians are all taking large sums of money from the pharmaceutical companies, who is left to protect the public??

Its also important to note that VAERS ONLY counts people and adverse events in the United States.

I will be honest. I don't trust any of the data coming out of the US. There is no way to know how many cases, how many deaths or how many adverse reactions are real. When they started their hodge podge approach by state covid was running through the country. Besides being the main driver of the vaccine, they did pretty poorly all round.

Again none of what you are saying is actually showing that the vaccine has killed hundreds of thousands of people. It's just picking data sets to support your position. If I go by that data and say that's the case, then I have to draw the conclusion that covid itself was the worst disease known to mankind. Data shows that covid killed 6.35m people and also went under reported in plenty of countries. If I go purely by the equivalent reports you are referring to we should have all been locked away in fallout style bunkers for the covid apocalypse. Now I don't believe that at all, but this is exactly the issue.

You also keep mentioning kids? We agree on kids it makes no sense. Still doesn't make it a death shot though.

 

[maximus__]

Spoken like a person that doesn't want to admit they took a poison into their system because they were afraid of a cold..
Now having huge regret.

Poor you.

 

[Ladder Master]

I sure don't. I hated wearing a mask, and if I don't have to wear one like that again in my life, I would be happy!

I don't care if others want to wear one though.

I work in a hospital and we have been masking continously since March of 2020.
I doubt it is going away anytime soon for us.

 

[maximus__]

Which injection did you take? To my knowledge, none of them had undergone any long term testing that would normally be required for approval.

In the United States, all of the injections were administered under Emergency Use Authorization. The only FDA Approved injection (Comirnaty) was never available in the United States.

You don't see a medication rushed to market in 3 months as experimental? ok.

Again you keep looking at this from the US perspective. I don't live in the US. My vaccine was both approved in my country and is even approved in the US.
I never took anything experimental. I waited on purpose to take an approved vaccine. I was fully covered by work for any adverse reactions. I did as much research as all the people who chose not to get it, I just ended up on the other side of the whole thing after being against the vaccine. I had an adverse reaction(requiring a brief hospitalization) and even submitted a report about it. When I followed this regularly I knew plenty about all of this crap. I am not saying adverse reactions don't happen, I am saying the vaccine is not killing people. It's nothing more than a flu shot for a previous variant.

If by all available data that the vaccine is killing people then I have to believe that covid is also an extremely dangerous disease. Anecdotally I can point to more people that suffered long covid(both vaccinated and unvaccinated) than have had extended reactions to the covid vaccine. I actually lean to the side that covid itself is going to become a major issue long term for some and that the vaccine that was sold to us was designed to be a regular booster like the flu shot. It's not a bad thing as the virus will continue to mutate. I know more people suffering from long covid that didn't get vaccinated, than I know people like myself with bad adverse reactions to the vaccine going on to have long term health problems.

I look at both sides and I only take issue once people start blaming the vaccine for everything, it's no different to what they did for covid initially.

 

[Renard]

Again you keep looking at this from the US perspective. I don't live in the US. My vaccine was both approved in my country and is even approved in the US.
I never took anything experimental. I waited on purpose to take an approved vaccine. I was fully covered by work for any adverse reactions. I did as much research as all the people who chose not to get it, I just ended up on the other side of the whole thing after being against the vaccine. I had an adverse reaction(requiring a brief hospitalization) and even submitted a report about it. When I followed this regularly I knew plenty about all of this crap. I am not saying adverse reactions don't happen, I am saying the vaccine is not killing people. It's nothing more than a flu shot for a previous variant.

If by all available data that the vaccine is killing people then I have to believe that covid is also an extremely dangerous disease. Anecdotally I can point to more people that suffered long covid(both vaccinated and unvaccinated) than have had extended reactions to the covid vaccine. I actually lean to the side that covid itself is going to become a major issue long term for some and that the vaccine that was sold to us was designed to be a regular booster like the flu shot. It's not a bad thing as the virus will continue to mutate. I know more people suffering from long covid that didn't get vaccinated, than I know people like myself with bad adverse reactions to the vaccine going on to have long term health problems.

I look at both sides and I only take issue once people start blaming the vaccine for everything, it's no different to what they did for covid initially.

I'm still amazed you got straight-up hospitalized from it yet type an entire paragraph about how it's no biggie, it's just the flu shot guys. That's some weapons-grade cognitive dissonance right there.

Long Covid is nonsense, it has no consensus definition and the studies on it are all over the place. It's the stick they're using to convince healthy people to get injected. It's a scam.

 

[BearGrounds]

Question for the other folks here: are you getting a bunch of sponsored ads for medical trials on your social media and other internet feeds? Normally the ads I get are for real estate, food & restaurants, and camping/outdoors stuff but starting around 3-4 weeks ago I started seeing ads for various medical trials, and as of this week half the shit is medical trial ads. A bunch of them were related to cancer & heart disease (gee, I wonder what would cause that?) and when I looked up what some of the other ones were it turned out that most of them are for conditions which are known to be caused by the clot shots.

I'm not really on social media these days, but I have definitely noticed an influx in articles linking heart disease to climate change, pollution, and anything else under the sun other than the experimental injection.

It's obvious what they're doing - covering for the vax.