Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[fedoriswar37]

We had similar in the UK, the aim was to be 'fair' towards independent businesses. IE - if Steve's Toy Store has to shut down, why should Walmart be allowed to sell children's toys? I think it was the optics, they didn't want even more monopoly going towards big stores as the sentiment of a cash-grab / wealth transfer was already in the air. Same with clothing etc.

Funny thing is, they dropped that recently and major supermarkets were selling clothing and toys while small independent businesses spent another month in hardcore shutdown.

I mean that's another conversation. Steve's toy store shouldn't have to shut down. If your saying you can provide safe measures to shop for food at a capacity then you can certainly provide a safe way to shop for toys if you so choose to. But once again , people apparsntly need to be babied, even tho 99% of people are wearing mask and sanitizing.

 

[fedoriswar37]

You never answered me when i asked you where do you live that you see huge line ups at food bank

Hamilton Ontario. Everyday . Food banks , shelters , drop in centers. All over capacity and stressed to the max.

 

[wlu.29]

Hamilton Ontario. Everyday . Food banks , shelters , drop in centers. All over capacity and stressed to the max.

again, was this already the case prior to covid, or caused by covid?

 

[HereticBD]

So not unique because of covid, but existing underlying poverty

Wut?

Are you living in a cave? Food bank usage has skyrocketed during COVID. They can barely keep up with the demand. Are you under some strange impression that locking businesses down doesn't cause mass unemployment and poverty, and that the Food Banks haven't seen a dramatic increase in usage because of it?

 

[wlu.29]

Wut?

Are you living in a cave? Food bank usage has skyrocketed during COVID. They can barely keep up with the demand. Are you under some strange impression that locking businesses down doesn't cause mass unemployment and poverty, and that the Food Banks haven't seen a dramatic increase in usage because of it?

food bank usage was already on the rise even before covid, that's due to increasing poverty overall

 

[Natural Order]

Yes.

And they should be smarter and better informed, that's theoretically why they're chosen to lead.

What people want is not always what they need, and making the hard choice is what separates strong leaders from weak.

I imagine for most this is a tough choice, and for sure there's a political price to pay. I believe they're making the choice that's best for the common good, and in the end most individuals aren't going to care at all about that.

One of the biggest lefty cans in this place making arguments for authoritarianism. Never change Sherdog!

 

[HereticBD]

food bank usage was already on the rise even before covid, that's due to increasing poverty overall

The rise during COVID is not a natural one. It was caused by, oh' I don't know, making more and more people unemployed.

Seriously, this isn't complicated. If you're arguing that food bank usage has seen no significant increase during COVID, you're simply arguing against reality.

 

[wlu.29]

Between April 1, 2019 and March 31, 2020, the report said 537,575 people accessed food banks — an increase of 5.3 per cent over the previous year — and that one third of those visitors were children.

Total visits amounted to 3,282,500, which is up 7.3 per cent from last year.

Feed Ontario lists a lack of affordable housing, insufficient social assistance programs, and a growth in precarious employment (like part-time and casual work) as the top three drivers of food bank usage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hami...mic,income earners and vulnerable populations.

 

[wlu.29]

The rise during COVID is not a natural one. It was caused by, oh' I don't know, making more and more people unemployed.

Seriously, this isn't complicated. If you're arguing that food bank usage has seen no significant increase during COVID, you're simply arguing against reality.

i'm saying the reliance on food bank and that growth has already been trending prior to even covid

 

[fedoriswar37]

again, was this already the case prior to covid, or caused by covid?

Caused by covid. Poverty always existed and always will. Covid forced a lot of people onto the streets

 

[The_Renaissance]

I mean that's another conversation. Steve's toy store shouldn't have to shut down. If your saying you can provide safe measures to shop for food at a capacity then you can certainly provide a safe way to shop for toys if you so choose to. But once again , people apparsntly need to be babied, even tho 99% of people are wearing mask and sanitizing.

Yeah, this is an example I've used to people before:

In my city, there's lots of arcades full of small, unique independent businesses. One of them is a tiny, homemade / artesan cheese shop.

It has been forcibly closed down for approximately 9 of the last 12 months. This shop could fit a maximum of 2 customers at any one time, meaning it would literally be one-in-one-out policy with hygiene measures on the door, and would probably see a foot-fall of like 15-20 customers a day or something.

Not acceptable.

Go to any supermarket and the cheese / dairy aisle will have 10-15 people in it at any one time during the day. And that building will see thousands of people going and out all day long.

That's acceptable.

 

[HereticBD]

i'm saying the reliance on food bank and that growth has already been trending prior to even covid

Whether it was trending up or not, has nothing to do with COVID causing a huge spike in usage.

Do you even know what you're trying to argue?

 

[wlu.29]

Whether it was trending up or not, has nothing to do with COVID causing a huge spike in usage.

Do you even know what you're trying to argue?

The position that golden wolf was saying was that these lockdowns are causing small business owners to turn to food banks

When it was people who were employed in low paying jobs, not small business owners that are turning to food banks

 

[HereticBD]

The position that golden wolf was saying was that these lockdowns are causing small business owners to turn to food banks

When it was people who were employed in low paying jobs, not small business owners that are turning to food banks

A lot of them are. A small business owner can be even worse off when they lose their business, since they take on the debt. You can go from well off to poor overnight. And when they're in that position, guess what? They're not a small business owner anymore. They're poor like everyone else there.

Are you so pro-lockdown, that you're just going to ignore the consequences of them? It's such a bizarre fight you're taking up in trying to deny this reality that the food banks themselves are confirming.

 

[Wet Blanket]

again, was this already the case prior to covid, or caused by covid?

Already the case.

Hamilton gonna Hamilton.

 

[wlu.29]

A lot of them are. A small business owner can be even worse off when they lose their business, since they take on the debt. You can go from well off to poor overnight. And when they're in that position, guess what? They're not a small business owner anymore. They're poor like everyone else there.

Are you so pro-lockdown, that you're just going to ignore the consequences of them? It's such a bizarre fight you're taking up in trying to deny this reality that the food banks themselves are confirming.

i'm not pro lockdown, i'm for looking at the overall big picture

it's annoying to me that we have a lockdown, since i have two kids that are at home now rather than in school

but i also have aging parents and a sister that works in the hospital as a cardio perfusionist, ie she's working in ICU

 

[HereticBD]

i'm not pro lockdown, i'm for looking at the overall big picture

it's annoying to me that we have a lockdown, since i have two kids that are at home now rather than in school

but i also have aging parents and a sister that works in the hospital as a cardio perfusionist, ie she's working in ICU

That's all well and good, but the food bank usage is still way up, due to the lock downs crushing businesses and more people living in poverty. That's just a fact. I really don't know why you try to argue against that.

 

[evansusmc2]

Not to derail this thread but,

I’m in Belize right now. They’ve had a 9:30pm curfew since March 2020 and have to wear masks everywhere outside even if they are alone and no one within 200 feet of them.

 

[wlu.29]

Bro, do you think CINEPLEX is a major player in the globalist scheme? You think mid level real estate boys are part of the scheme? I'm talking about Amazon and WalMart, some of the biggest corporations in the world that are part of the true global circuit. Now you may be saying, ok, but Canada is going along with it, but why? This line of thinking is a gross over estimation of Canada's importance on the world stage. If nations with the biggest GDP and populations 10 times ours start pushing agenda, we hop on the track to go along with our daddy states, because we all play ball at the UN and we are all connected.

Why would one nation go against all of their allies and denounce the policies of the US and the EU? Why would we go against China?

Hint: We do what we are fucking told. Don't believe me? Everyone is sitting in their homes doing what they are told, letting their mental health, businesses, and life styles decline. You're probably working from home just like me, being a good little boy doing what the government says. Our government is cuck and goes with however the wind blows so we can stay frens with everyone.

we do what we're told? why is canada (ontario) choosing to lockdown when the states is not ?

 

[wlu.29]

That's all well and good, but the food bank usage is still way up, due to the lock downs crushing businesses and more people living in poverty. That's just a fact. I really don't know why you try to argue against that.

i'm not arguing overall that covid has definitely hurt

but i'm for being honest, and this golden wolf dude is full of shit