Social GoldenWolf's COVID Vaccine/Lockdown Protest megathread

[Goonerview]

Start with the first.

Produce the total number of vaccinations for each vaccine in the vaccine chart so that we may assess the relative ratio of VAERS reports involving death.

It is common knowledge that VAERS reports are under-reported.

So, the answer to your question is really unknowable and ultimately, not that important.

The fact that the vaccines have caused any deaths and maiming in otherwise healthy people is morally wrong and there is no accountability.

 

[Witchhunt]

Wrong. Classic fallacy. First, COVID is established to have a vastly higher incidence of death. Second, those who die after testing positive from COVID have also exhibited symptoms of the disease which leads doctors to believe the cause of death was from COVID, and that's why list it as a co-morbidity (before the verification of an autopsy). No such link is necessary for VAERS reports. In fact, one thing we do know is that almost all of these people passed the first serious danger zone without incident: the 15-minute period immediately following the vaccine administration.

Why are you so determined to not juxtapose the total number of vaccines issued relative to reports? That poster presented those charts with the clear intent to paint the COVID vaccine as demonstrating an abnormally high incidence of coincidental deaths relative to the expected norm versus other vaccines (ex. MMR).

First, this norm is incredibly low. By that, I mean it's hundreds of times lower than COVID even by higher-range alarmist estimates. Second, without showing the total number of vaccines given for each, there is no meaningful comparison of coindental rates being shown at all. All you're showing is that COVID had way, way more vaccines administered in the past year than those other vaccines.

All of this info you are sighting is based on 40+ cycle PCR tests.. the entire narrative is based on a falsified data.

 

[DizzyKronic]

Clearly that is shitty.

Have we ever considered why the only nations where there are calls for multi-culturalism are White dominate nations?

Exactly, instead of invading other countries in droves why don’t they take note and curb their damn population.

 

[Goonerview]

How, at this point, can anyone not know this?
People are accepting experimental injections, giving up their basic fundamental rights and cheering government tyranny and haven’t done enough basic research to know that the PCR can’t detect illness and has been run at a cycle threshold hold that is 97% false positive?
All of this has been posted over and over and over again, right here, in this very fucking thread.
Jesus, we are fucked..

It is absurd.

The virus is so “deadly” that you need a test to see if you have it, smh.

 

[Madmick]

All of this info you are sighting is based on 40+ cycle PCR tests.. the entire narrative is based on a falsified data.

In fact, if we dismiss PCR data, the IFR of the disease rises drastically.

It is common knowledge that VAERS reports are under-reported.

So, the answer to your question is really unknowable and ultimately, not that important.

The fact that the vaccines have caused any deaths and maiming in otherwise healthy people is morally wrong and there is no accountability.

I've pointed out that death rates for vaccines would still be outnumbered by hundreds of times even if we allowed for alarmist estimates which would multiply them (as much as 11x, for example). That is for the CFR of laboratory confirmed cases only, btw. No PCR data required.

Furthermore, you said you would address my counterpoints point by point if I bulleted them. Yet you refuse to even address my single main point when I put it before you. Obviously, you were not sincere, had no intention of addressing these counterpoints, because you knew you couldn't, and asked that without any intent to backing it up.

Ergo...concession accepted.

 

[trac209]

They were a part of every major party platform.

So then how the fuck is that a measuring stick for lockdowns and passports when only 30 percent of eligible voters cast a ballot lol. It’s scary people like you exist and believe your own bullshit.

 

[Goonerview]

In fact, if we dismiss PCR data, the IFR of the disease rises drastically.

I've pointed out that death rates for vaccines would still be outnumbered by hundreds of times even if we allowed for alarmist estimates which would multiply them (as much as 11x, for example). That is for the CFR of laboratory confirmed cases only, btw. No PCR data required.

Furthermore, you said you would address my counterpoints point by point if I bulleted them. Yet you refuse to even address my single main point when I put it before you. Obviously, you were not sincere, had no intention of addressing these counterpoints, because you knew you couldn't, and asked that without any intent to backing it up.

Ergo...concession accepted.

I just addressed your point.

Also, there is a moral difference between someone dying from an illness and someone being killed or maimed by a vaccine under the false pretense that it’s “safe and effective”. It’s fucking evil.

Not to mention, the long term side effects of these vaccines are still unknown.

You seem to think that it’s ok if some people die from vaccines, as long as it helps the “greater good”. You are essentially arguing utilitarianism, which is not a good argument from a moral point of view.

Your last line just shows that you care more about scoring points and “winning the ego battle”, as opposed to actually debating ideas in a transparent, mature way.

 

[Witchhunt]

In fact, if we dismiss PCR data, the IFR of the disease rises drastically.

I've pointed out that death rates for vaccines would still be outnumbered by hundreds of times even if we allowed for alarmist estimates which would multiply them (as much as 11x, for example). That is for the CFR of laboratory confirmed cases only, btw. No PCR data required.

Furthermore, you said you would address my counterpoints point by point if I bulleted them. Yet you refuse to even address my single main point when I put it before you. Obviously, you were not sincere, had no intention of addressing these counterpoints, because you knew you couldn't, and asked that without any intent to backing it up.

Ergo...concession accepted.

The multiplex is flawed too.. does finding a common nucleic acid confirm the presence of a virus? Does it distinguish between the flu, or other corona viruses and “COVID 19”? Can you actually determine disease (not a virus) by looking at a cell through an electron microscope? Has a human test patient actually been infected by an isolated, lab grown COVID 19 specimen and shown to be diseased?
I don’t know the answers to these questions, but there are some very accredited virologists who question the science behind attributing SARS cov 2 as the cause of disease.

 

[Madmick]

I just addressed your point.

No, you didn't. You whined about unrelated COVID fatality rates and the accuracy of identifying COVID.

I simply asked to see what the relative rate of VAERS death reports were for the different vaccines relative to COVID by factoring in the total vaccines given. Neither the fatality rate of COVID nor the accuracy of reported cases have anything to do with the number of COVID vaccines administered.

You can't even follow the stepping stones of the argument. This isn't worth my time.

 

[Poon Goon]

"Doctor" Scott Gottlieb is on Face the Nation right now discussing the pfizer vaccine for children. He says he is confident about vaccinating his own kids. I can't believe they allow a literal evil demon on TV like this.

 

[aerius]

You realize none of these charts meaning anything unless you juxtapose the total number of vaccines given, right?

There's around 170 million doses of flu vaccines going into arms every year in the US. For MMR and the usual childhood vaccines, we know how many children are born in the US every year along with the typical vaccine schedules, and from that we can calculate how many shots there are. For most of them it's 3 doses in the first year, that's around 12 million doses per year since the birthrate is roughly 4 million per. We have just over 30 years of data in VAERS so that's 360 million shots, which is actually more than the covid shots.

One vaccine has resulted in more reports of adverse effects including deaths than everything put together. The safety profile is straight up dog shit when compared to the rest of the vaccines which we commonly use.

 

[Madmick]

There's around 170 million doses of flu vaccines going into arms every year in the US. For MMR and the usual childhood vaccines, we know how many children are born in the US every year along with the typical vaccine schedules, and from that we can calculate how many shots there are. For most of them it's 3 doses in the first year, that's around 12 million doses per year since the birthrate is roughly 4 million per. We have just over 30 years of data in VAERS so that's 360 million shots, which is actually more than the covid shots.

One vaccine has resulted in more reports of adverse effects including deaths than everything put together. The safety profile is straight up dog shit when compared to the rest of the vaccines which we commonly use.

I see you mentioned the USA. The figure in those charts isn't for the USA alone. And that's the strangest thing. Did you notice? Have you looked at the data? Over half over the reports-- roughly 11 out of 20-- come from inside the USA itself despite that USA accounts for fewer than 15% of the world's total vaccine doses.

What could be the culprit to explain such a discrepancy? Have you wondered?

 

[aerius]

I see you mentioned the USA. The figure in those charts isn't for the USA alone. And that's the strangest thing. Did you notice? Have you looked at the data? Over half over the reports-- roughly 11 out of 20-- come from inside the USA itself despite that USA accounts for fewer than 15% of the world's total vaccine doses.

What could be the culprit to explain such a discrepancy? Have you wondered?

You do realize that foreign in the context of VAERS refers to the foreign territories of the US along with other holdings such as military bases.

 

[lifelessheap]

I just addressed your point.

Also, there is a moral difference between someone dying from an illness and someone being killed or maimed by a vaccine under the false pretense that it’s “safe and effective”. It’s fucking evil.

Not to mention, the long term side effects of these vaccines are still unknown.

You seem to think that it’s ok if some people die from vaccines, as long as it helps the “greater good”. You are essentially arguing utilitarianism, which is not a good argument from a moral point of view.

Your last line just shows that you care more about scoring points and “winning the ego battle”, as opposed to actually debating ideas in a transparent, mature way.

The vaccines aren't even really working. They don't seem to be safe for a shocking number of people like my cousin and brother, and people are still getting sick anyway.

Make your choice. I don't fucking care. Just stop blaming people who choose not to get spiked.

Love y'all

 

[SBJJ]

I see you mentioned the USA. The figure in those charts isn't for the USA alone. And that's the strangest thing. Did you notice? Have you looked at the data? Over half over the reports-- roughly 11 out of 20-- come from inside the USA itself despite that USA accounts for fewer than 15% of the world's total vaccine doses.

What could be the culprit to explain such a discrepancy? Have you wondered?

VAERS is not international dude.

 

[Heisenboom]

"Doctor" Scott Gottlieb is on Face the Nation right now discussing the pfizer vaccine for children. He says he is confident about vaccinating his own kids. I can't believe they allow a literal evil demon on TV like this.

Save this

 

[Wadtucket]

You do realize that foreign in the context of VAERS refers to the foreign territories of the US along with other holdings such as military bases.

<{ByeHomer}>

That's a KO bruvva​

 

[PhitePhan]

It is common knowledge that VAERS reports are under-reported.

So, the answer to your question is really unknowable and ultimately, not that important.

The fact that the vaccines have caused any deaths and maiming in otherwise healthy people is morally wrong and there is no accountability.

Yep, the cornerstone of the vaccine zealots argument is that we can’t use our MAIN vaccine injury reporting system to accurately tally vaccine injuries...

And you’re right about underreported vaccine injuries, as even research has shown that up to 99% of vaccine adverse events are not reported...

Notice that vaccine zealots won’t touch these facts with a 10 foot pole, and they refuse to acknowledge we can’t make an accurate risk/benefit analysis... yet these folks will proclaim themselves to be “following the science” when in reality they’re parroting big pharmaceutical advertising.

 

[PhitePhan]

I see you mentioned the USA. The figure in those charts isn't for the USA alone. And that's the strangest thing. Did you notice? Have you looked at the data? Over half over the reports-- roughly 11 out of 20-- come from inside the USA itself despite that USA accounts for fewer than 15% of the world's total vaccine doses.

What could be the culprit to explain such a discrepancy? Have you wondered?

Derp

 

[icffedor]

Yep, the cornerstone of the vaccine zealots argument is that we can’t use our MAIN vaccine injury reporting system to accurately tally vaccine injuries...

And you’re right about underreported vaccine injuries, as even research has shown that up to 99% of vaccine adverse events are not reported...

Notice that vaccine zealots won’t touch these facts with a 10 foot pole, and they refuse to acknowledge we can’t make an accurate risk/benefit analysis... yet these folks will proclaim themselves to be “following the science” when in reality they’re parroting big pharmaceutical advertising.

I dont trust any numbers thevye been putting out, not deaths, unvaxxed vs vaxxed, dems vs pubs, the "experts" even said would take years once the dust settles to get real #'s