GI vs No GI Injury Chances?

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So I was considering getting into Jiu Jitsu again. But I looked into a forum to where a lot of practitioners get injured often. I have a physical job at a warehouse and I cannot afford to get hurt.

So my question is no GI have the same chances of getting hurt? Or are they about the same?
 
I've seen more serious injuries in the gi than I have in nogi. Passing spider guard blows ACLs.

But nogi you'll get more bumps and bruises, maybe the occasional broken toe, more frequently. It's just higher pace and leads to higher impacts with the mat and the likes in scrambles.
 
I would agree that no go has more lesser injuries and gi has more big ones. Following that logic judo would have even more big injuries than BJJ , and that is pretty much true imho as well.
 
there's a 100% chance you'll get hurt grappling.

that being said, if you have to make the choice between getting hurt doing BJJ or not being hurt and spending your time on earth doing manual labor in a warehouse, that's a pretty easy choice.

a lot of people might be alive but they sure as shit aren't living.
 
RJ Green said:
there's a 100% chance you'll get hurt grappling.

that being said, if you have to make the choice between getting hurt doing BJJ or not being hurt and spending your time on earth doing manual labor in a warehouse, that's a pretty easy choice.

a lot of people might be alive but they sure as shit aren't living.
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Amen.

Do you want to golf or grapple?

(I almost lost my position at work due to a gruesome Judo injury, I'm back training after a two year lay off. It's what I am, I don't play ball sports or run 5ks, w/o Judo-therapy I'm probably less productive anyway)
 
I consider the difference between gi and no gi to be like striking vs grappling, you won't be injured as often in gi, but you'll be out longer when you DO get injured.
 
I feel the TS's pain.

I had to leave work early one night due to a training related injury. When I told the boss how I got injured, he asked "How much do they pay you to do Judo?" I read between the lines, so now work with injuries, taking care not to show it. Muscle rub, Aleve, different types of braces... whatever it takes.

As mentioned previously, if you grapple (gi or nogi), you're going to get injured. Period. I've been doing different martial arts off and on for more than 15 years, and I've never had so many injuries in my life since dedicating myself to grappling over the last three.

If you want to train, you have to accept the fact that you're going to have to work through injuries, and perhaps pretend that nothing is wrong in order to keep your job. Or maybe find an employer that isn't shitty.
 
RJ Green said:
there's a 100% chance you'll get hurt grappling.

that being said, if you have to make the choice between getting hurt doing BJJ or not being hurt and spending your time on earth doing manual labor in a warehouse, that's a pretty easy choice.

a lot of people might be alive but they sure as shit aren't living.
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Good point, that's why I was thinking of just doing boxing. But I do love BJJ.
 
The consensus seems to be the gi causes way more injuries. Why? Shit getting tangled and twisted in the gi, or what?
 
King Creatine said:
The consensus seems to be the gi causes way more injuries. Why? Shit getting tangled and twisted in the gi, or what?
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I was surprised, too. I practice gi only, and I would expect lots of hits with elbows and knees when in no gi. Bottom game in gi is slower, more controlled.

Judo - yes. Lots of small annoying injuries.
 
It'd be cool to an analysis of the gi/nogi injury rate, the why and how, etc.

I spend at least 75% of the time training in gi, so assume that's why all my injuries have occurred while wearing a gi. It does appear that there's more to the story though.
 
JakeTKD said:
Good point, that's why I was thinking of just doing boxing. But I do love BJJ.
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Plenty of injuries to be had there too. Concussions, broken nose, facial cuts/fractures, bruised ribs (which can be practically debilitating), injuries to the wrist, elbow, and shoulders.

Contact sports=injury. The safest bet is to do some tai chi or something. :)
 
I'm gonna go ahead and say that the type of training partners you have will make more of a difference than whether you're training in Gi vs No Gi
 
Way less injuries in the gi. No gi fucks up my neck big time.
 
King Creatine said:
The consensus seems to be the gi causes way more injuries. Why? Shit getting tangled and twisted in the gi, or what?
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Yeah, basically. Seems in the no GI game it's more impact injuries, and less serious because generally accidental. In the gi, it's more serious because it's people who really have you controlled or trapped via the gi, and you try to resist against that. In no gi you'd squirm out a bit, in the gi you tear a groin or an intercostal or some other truly problematic thing.

In judo, it's that you have another person stuck to you via the gi that falls with or into you while you're both trying hard not to fall.
 
tenktriangles said:
Yeah, basically. Seems in the no GI game it's more impact injuries, and less serious because generally accidental. In the gi, it's more serious because it's people who really have you controlled or trapped via the gi, and you try to resist against that. In no gi you'd squirm out a bit, in the gi you tear a groin or an intercostal or some other truly problematic thing.

In judo, it's that you have another person stuck to you via the gi that falls with or into you while you're both trying hard not to fall.
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This is a good answer. Makes sense.
 
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