GGG vs. Canelo, Who Won?

Who won the fight?

  • Gennady Golovkin

  • Canelo Alvarez

  • Draw

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Cool.


What else could a drunken monkey high off fermented bananas do better than others?


But seriously, it seems combats sports in general has problems with poor judging; a baffling and unneccesary problem.
 
GGG was the aggressor and I had him winning a couple of rounds. Given the state of corruption in boxing, it would have gone either way. I agree with most here that a draw would simply be fair over an L and he retained his titles. There are too much variables against him on this night (judges, vegas, DLH, mexicans).
 
114-114 and I don't really care for Canelo.
Pressure ain't everything in boxing.
 
Is the solution to bad judging to be found in other sports?

I personally had GGG by 2 rounds and the poll here suggest an overwhelming majority saw a completely different fight to Mrs Byrd.

Changing judges may not have changed the result - it's entirely feasible another judge may have scored the bout closely in favour of Alvarez. Regardless of that fact the 118-110 score leaves a really bad taste in a lot of people's mouths and has generated talk of fixing and bias etc.

This got me thinking of a way to try to eliminate the problem and to put the focus back on what was an excellent boxing bout and away from the perceived controversy. Could boxing take a leaf out of the book of Olympic sports such as diving and gymnastics (plus others I can't recall off the top of my head) and remove the most extreme scores to take an average of the more moderate scores.

How would it work? Take the number of judges from 3 to 5. The bouts are scored as normal. At the end of a fight the highest score in favour of boxer A is discarded and the highest score in favour of boxer B is discarded. The result is decided by the remaining three judges scorecards.

I don't believe many decisions would change but it should stop lopsided views from skewing results and causing fans concern like Adelaide Byrd did last night.
 
That was not bad judging. It was prejudiced judging. She obviously knew before the fight how she would score it. The only way that explains such a fuck up.

Canelo had a good fight but got outworked. Score it a draw ok even if I dont see that at all but 118:110 screams corruption.
 
The cards

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Julius_Caesar said:
Irrelevant. Many have excepted that it was scored a draw. We just dont understand how anyone could of had that 118 - 110. It shows she was paid off. Its simple. Probably by Oscar.
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So Oscar paid off one judge in a sport where it takes at least 2 to determine a winner, lol. And if you're going to tell me he paid them all off then why pay for a Draw? Dumb theory you have there. It's a simple case of one judges subjective viewing being off and silly fans that buy into conspiracy theories and watch too many mobster movies making shit bigger than it is because they are mad their guy didn't win.
 
JohnMcHero said:
Is the solution to bad judging to be found in other sports?

I personally had GGG by 2 rounds and the poll here suggest an overwhelming majority saw a completely different fight to Mrs Byrd.

Changing judges may not have changed the result - it's entirely feasible another judge may have scored the bout closely in favour of Alvarez. Regardless of that fact the 118-110 score leaves a really bad taste in a lot of people's mouths and has generated talk of fixing and bias etc.

This got me thinking of a way to try to eliminate the problem and to put the focus back on what was an excellent boxing bout and away from the perceived controversy. Could boxing take a leaf out of the book of Olympic sports such as diving and gymnastics (plus others I can't recall off the top of my head) and remove the most extreme scores to take an average of the more moderate scores.

How would it work? Take the number of judges from 3 to 5. The bouts are scored as normal. At the end of a fight the highest score in favour of boxer A is discarded and the highest score in favour of boxer B is discarded. The result is decided by the remaining three judges scorecards.

I don't believe many decisions would change but it should stop lopsided views from skewing results and causing fans concern like Adelaide Byrd did last night.
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I don't think it needs to be that complicated. Just raise the number of judges to 5. I've been arguing this for years. In any sort of poll a bigger sample size leads to more accurate results.
 
I scored it 7-5 for Canelo.GGG was pressing and controlling the action but he was missing and eating counters the entire time.The best shots were landed by Canelo.
 
The Adder said:
So Oscar paid off one judge in a sport where it takes at least 2 to determine a winner, lol. And if you're going to tell me he paid them all off then why pay for a Draw? Dumb theory you have there. It's a simple case of one judges subjective viewing being off and silly fans that buy into conspiracy theories and watch too many mobster movies making shit bigger than it is because they are mad their guy didn't win.
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one judge's subjective viewing being off is one thing, a judge giving gennady golovkin 2 rounds in that fight is something else entirely.

it doesn't matter if she's corrupt, or wildly incompetent. she is judging one of the most important fights in recent history and she is doing a horrendous job. there is no excuse for the 118-110 card, and the boxing community calling for her head is completely justified.

people saying "well, she was just a bit off" is what's enabling shit like this to happen. there needs to be constant pressure on the commissions to clean up their act, or we get buffoons like this bitch ruining fighters' careers.
 
Watched the fight again. No way GGG didn't win.

There's a certain type of fan (and apparently judge) who favors flashy handspeed and head movement for aesthetic reasons. GGG isn't pretty to look at but he controlled the fight and landed more punches.

Boxing can't stay out of its own way.
 
Canelo schooled him. GGG was marching forward blindly, eating punches all over the place and landing nothing. He had no answer for Canelo. He got owned.

Surprised anybody thinks otherwise, but the Russians seem popular these days, so I guess that explains it.
 
I bet the result would be the same if you asked who's Mexican and who isn't.
 
Symphonic1770 said:
Canelo schooled him. GGG was marching forward blindly, eating punches all over the place and landing nothing. He had no answer for Canelo. He got owned.

Surprised anybody thinks otherwise, but the Russians seem popular these days, so I guess that explains it.
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gennady landed 218 punches, to canelo's 169.

gennady landed more punches than canelo in 10 out of 12 rounds.

let me guess, mcgregor held his own against mayweather?
 
Symphonic1770 said:
Canelo schooled him. GGG was marching forward blindly, eating punches all over the place and landing nothing. He had no answer for Canelo. He got owned.

Surprised anybody thinks otherwise, but the Russians seem popular these days, so I guess that explains it.
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LOL, so every boxer, trainer, and analyst who says it was a robbery is wrong, it's Symphonic1770 the shertard we should all listen to.
 
Symphonic1770 said:
Canelo schooled him. GGG was marching forward blindly, eating punches all over the place and landing nothing. He had no answer for Canelo. He got owned.

Surprised anybody thinks otherwise, but the Russians seem popular these days, so I guess that explains it.
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He's not Russian so there goes that.
 
randomg1t said:
gennady landed 218 punches, to canelo's 169.

gennady landed more punches than canelo in 10 out of 12 rounds.

let me guess, mcgregor held his own against mayweather?
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But who landed the good power shots? GGG looked weak as shit and ate power shots all over the place. He couldn't even do anything while Canelo was backed against the ropes. Canelo made him look washed up.

Mcgregor fucked Mayweather up for 3 rounds, sure. That's obvious for all to see.
 
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