Crime Get me Roger Stone (for obstruction, lying, and witness tampering) (SCO thread v. 28)

[HereticBD]

That's weak. I've seen some of sherdogs biggest losers wear av bets daily. I'd expect @waiguoren to bet heavier than a sig bet anyway.

I believe that's a JVS thing. I don't think the guy ever puts his Av up.

 

[trident]

Just gonna note that I virtually always am on mobile and in vertical mode, so I never even read sigs.

Me too. It's the weakest of bets. Half of us wont ever see it

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

That's what I'm hoping for but he may be too much of a fanatic.

We will see if his claim that he'd never go against Trump was just bravado.

These fucking people

 

[vengeful]

Yes it's a double standard but there's a good reason for why a cop can point a gun at you but you can't. What is the good reason for the state to be able to intimidate witnesses and not individuals?

The state has the right to "intimidate" witnesses because they're investigating crimes they have been given the authority to investigate and are trying to get justice. Individuals aren't investigating crimes and don't have a right to intimidate witnesses as by them doing so they're obstructing justice. You're conflating "double standards" with "different standards" these are different standards for behavior engagement based on the authority that these different entities have.

You prove upmost objectivity. I is convince now. All people agree. Glasses man bad. Orange man bad.

I think the word is "utmost"

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Pointless response.

You're claiming the president is accepting money to eat garbage.

Begs the question: what else would he accept money for?

Anyone with half a brain would accept McDonald's money to eat their products on screen. It's just people like you would never get thst chance because you lack a lot of qualities.

 

[trident]

Anyone with half a brain would accept McDonald's money to eat their products on screen. It's just people like you would never get thst chance because you lack a lot of qualities.

I agree. It would take a half a brain to do that.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

I agree. It would take a half a brain to do that.

Unfortunately for you, you don't have half a brain as evidenced by your quick half-witted response.

Making millions of dollars to sell a product to @trident and his type of people is ezzzz money baby.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

LOL.

Face it, you simply don't agree with him, so you must find a way to discredit the guy. I highly doubt you debunked a damn thing the Harvard Law Professor stated, nor would have the capability to do so.

Funny though, I remember y'all sucking his dick when he merely stated that the Mueller report would be bad for Trump. He's "Esteemed Harvard Law Professor, Alan Dershowitz" when you agree with him, and "Shilly McLawer, Alan Dershowitz" when you don't.

Dershowitz fucks up by saying that Mueller is appointed to find crimes already committed . Which is factually incorrect.

Here is the Mueller appointment letter:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html

Para b sub para ii "... or may arise directly from the investigation"

Notice the tense of the verb. It isn't past tense. Meaning yes this covers crimes committed post OSC appointment .

Which yes this means Dershowitz is just parroting fox news shit to make it seem like some highly respected expert is debunking the Mueller investigation .

I'm sorry they didn't teach you basic reading comprehension where you went to elementary school. You must have grown up poor @Revolver

 

[trident]

Unfortunately for you, you don't have half a brain as evidenced by your quick half-witted response.

Making millions of dollars to sell a product to @trident and his type of people is ezzzz money baby.

You're falling apart dude.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

This may be a tad late but :


Alan Dershowitz: I've read the indictment and it's a typical Mueller indictment. Very heavy on stories. Stories involving Wikileaks, but the indictment itself all relates to obstruction of justice and tampering with witnesses. In other words, crimes that occured as a result of the investigation. This is typical of Mueller. He has found almost no crimes that occurred before he was appointed Special Counsel.

He was appointed Special Counsel to uncover crimes that had already occurred. He has virtually failed in that respect in every regard. Almost all the crimes that he has indicted people for are crimes that resulted from his investigation. False statements, tampering with witnesses, obstruction of justice. I went through the list today of all the people who had been indicted by Mueller. It was very hard to find any American who had been charged with any crime that occurred before Mueller was appointed Special Counsel. So what's happened here is that these are crimes which were generated by the investigation---that doesn't make them any less criminal---but it really means that there has been a failure to uncover the basic crimes for which he was appointed. Namely, before he was appointed, was there illegal conspiracy with Russia? We don't find that.

In this indictment, he tells stories about alleged collusion, stories about Wikileaks but that's not the basis for the indictment. The basis for the indictment are all events that occurred after he was indicted. That's very significant.

You can't take Alan at face value. He's no different than Sekulow. He has a personal relationship with Trump and is disseminating information like a defense attorney would.

Stone is obstructing for a reason and the charges against him seem to be rock solid. His best bet is hoping for a pardon because it looks like he's going to spend a lot of time in prison.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Lol Trump is paid to eat thst shit. You eat it because you're poor.

Are you a seven figure earner?

 

[Strychnine]

The man has Nixon on his back. He ain't snitching lmao.

I feel sorry for his cellmate. He's going to have to look at that while he....

You know...

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Yes it's a double standard but there's a good reason for why a cop can point a gun at you but you can't. What is the good reason for why the state is able to intimidate witnesses and individuals can't?

Intimidate them with the threat of prosecution for their own crimes?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Why would anyone pay some ugly manlet like yourself anyways?

You, resorting to personal attacks, I'm shocked.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Unfortunately for you, you don't have half a brain as evidenced by your quick half-witted response.

Making millions of dollars to sell a product to @trident and his type of people is ezzzz money baby.

Selling a wall to your type of people...

 

[MicroBrew]

Sure, along with a host other experts in the field. I certainly wouldn't personally attempt to claim that he doesn't know what he's talking about, like some fools on here do with Dershowitz, whenever he pops their balloon.

Hypothetically : suppose he supports a rewriting of the 2nd amendment and justifies his position with his academic credentials, do you think it is reasonable to argue against ?

Or let's take the ACA/Obamacare stipulation that a person have health insurance or face fines (excepting some situations). Lots of critics have argued that this is unconstitutional. Now would you argue against Obama on this even though he was a Constitutional Law Professor?

 

[MicroBrew]

Lol Trump is paid to eat thst shit. You eat it because you're poor.

Any proof that McDonalds pays him?
You telling me that a billionaire is forced to eat McD food because he needs the money from McDs?

 

[Ophydian]

I’m sitting here in Florence drinking great wine and eating stupidly delicious pasta thinking to myself that it only took the general public two years to figure out Trump while the Clintons have been mystifying Republicans for years. Wharton School of Business my ass, good grades, the best words.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

I feel sorry for his cellmate. He's going to have to look at that while he....

You know...

You see those lats bro? I don’t think he’ll go down like Andy Dufrain

 

[Bloody Pulp]

I’m sitting here in Florence drinking great wine and eating stupidly delicious pasta thinking to myself that it only took the general public two years to figure out Trump while the Clintons have been mystifying Republicans for years. Wharton School of Business my ass, good grades, the best words.

Your sitting in Florence posting on Sherdog.