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International Germany's Multicultural Experiment: 45% of Migrants Failed German Integration Courses

Europe's experiment with "Multiculturalism" rather than adopting North America's "Melting Pot" is...


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If you wanted assimilation, Muslims are not the group to take in. Especially not to that extent.

She dun goofed

Why don't these idiots get this?

It's not even an Arab thing. Just talk to any Lebonese Christian. They are just as Arab as Palistinians and Syrians but ask them how they feel about the muslims taking over their once beautiful country. It's a shithole now. My boss is a half white/half Arab Lebonese that grew up there in the 80's and 90's and he tells me straight up that Europe has no idea how much they've fucked up letting that trash in (his exact words).
 
19k criminals LMFAO......Dude do you know about percentages, thats nothing when their is 12 million people.

OMG 208 murders out of 12 million...omg 900 sex criminals out of 12 million!!!!! The sky is Falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know for a fact Americans won't work agricultural jobs...Latin people do those jobs.
LOL, I like how you think that every one who committed a murder, robbery, rape, etc has been caught. You talk about percentages, what percenatge of illegals have commited crime but not been caught?

And it matters to the 208 people who were murdered when if they gov had done their job, thery would still be alive.

Dumbass.
 
it will never work in germany because native germans do not want ANY part of the foreigner's culture to permeate into the culture of germany. it was a stupid idea to begin with, if native germans never intended to accept some influence from outsiders. who wants to live in a country where they feel they can't be themselves? germany isn't switzerland. in switzerland, it works a lot better. but not germany.
 
it will never work in germany because native germans do not want ANY part of the foreigner's culture to permeate into the culture of germany. it was a stupid idea to begin with, if native germans never intended to accept some influence from outsiders. who wants to live in a country where they feel they can't be themselves? germany isn't switzerland. in switzerland, it works a lot better. but not germany.

Hmm how do we break the will of these people that are against multiculturalism and all this immigration? Think calling them nazis and racist over and over again will work?
 
Why don't these idiots get this?

It's not even an Arab thing. Just talk to any Lebonese Christian. They are just as Arab as Palistinians and Syrians but ask them how they feel about the muslims taking over their once beautiful country. It's a shithole now. My boss is a half white/half Arab Lebonese that grew up there in the 80's and 90's and he tells me straight up that Europe has no idea how much they've fucked up letting that trash in (his exact words).

I imagine they are becoming aware of it.
 
it will never work in germany because native germans do not want ANY part of the foreigner's culture to permeate into the culture of germany. it was a stupid idea to begin with, if native germans never intended to accept some influence from outsiders. who wants to live in a country where they feel they can't be themselves? germany isn't switzerland. in switzerland, it works a lot better. but not germany.
Umm... In Switzerland it's required of immigrants that they assimilate before they can even apply for citizenship.. Not sure how you can bend that so that it looks like the Swiss is more open to Muhammedan parasites than the Germans are.
Not to mention the obvious policy difference on migration. Germany had open borders and welfare for all for a long time. Switzerland sends tanks to the borders when the jihadi armies of "refugees" approach.
 
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it will never work in germany because native germans do not want ANY part of the foreigner's culture to permeate into the culture of germany. it was a stupid idea to begin with, if native germans never intended to accept some influence from outsiders. who wants to live in a country where they feel they can't be themselves? germany isn't switzerland. in switzerland, it works a lot better. but not germany.

I'm confused by your comment, as the Swiss are one of the few European people's willing to tell Muslims to go fuck themselves.

You're confusing them with Swedes/ScandInavians I think?
 
I dont know any of those guys in the Videos its possible they want that I dont know I would have to look into that first.
I wouldn't want to accidentally base my opinion on the Reichsbueger youtube channel.

I would also like the see the links to the plenty of other translations you say you used to double check your translation. Because sure some Top Mind like yourself that can see right threw the Jewish conspiracy wouldn't take some Reichsbuerger word for it right?

That's enough out of you mealy mouth. I rebuke thee.
 
Merkel admitted years ago that multiculturalism is a failure in Germany, I don't get why she is still pursuing it.

If that's the case it's because she's an idiot

EDIT: They're trying to do what the US is doing with illegal immigration from Mexico.
 
That's enough out of you mealy mouth. I rebuke thee.

You are just your average conspiracy theorist that cant deliver. You come out with some wild conspiracy statement backed by some youtube Video and if someone more knowledgeable presses you on the issue you cant back it up. You didn't even realized who made the translation you just blindly believed it.
Instead you try to deflect from your point by bringing up new points that dont have anything to do with your first statement (in your case all the Videos from other people). You weren't willing to answer any of my question about your first statement even lying about some magic youtube translation tool and other Videos with a translation but you could never show one even after I asked you 3-4 times.
After that didn't work you tried to insult me to deflect from your point still not answering one single question. And now you decide is enough without answering any questions about you original statement.

Just out of interest do you believe the Earth is flat and 9/11 was an inside job as well.
 
Germany to tell people to stockpile food and water in case of attacks
Aug 21, 2016​

For the first time since the end of the Cold War, the German government plans to tell citizens to stockpile food and water in case of an attack or catastrophe, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung newspaper reported on Sunday.

Germany is currently on high alert after two Islamist attacks and a shooting rampage by a mentally unstable teenager last month. Berlin announced measures earlier this month to spend considerably more on its police and security forces and to create a special unit to counter cyber crime and terrorism.

"The population will be obliged to hold an individual supply of food for ten days," the newspaper quoted the government's "Concept for Civil Defence" - which has been prepared by the Interior Ministry - as saying.

The paper said a parliamentary committee had originally commissioned the civil defense strategy in 2012.

A spokesman for the Interior Ministry said the plan would be discussed by the cabinet on Wednesday and presented by the minister that afternoon. He declined to give any details on the content.

People will be required to stockpile enough drinking water to last for five days, according to the plan, the paper said.

The 69-page report does not see an attack on Germany's territory, which would require a conventional style of national defense, as likely.

However, the precautionary measures demand that people "prepare appropriately for a development that could threaten our existence and cannot be categorically ruled out in the future," the paper cited the report as saying.


It also mentions the necessity of a reliable alarm system, better structural protection of buildings and more capacity in the health system, the paper said.

A further priority should be more support of the armed forces by civilians, it added.

Germany's Defence Minister said earlier this month the country lay in the "crosshairs of terrorism" and pressed for plans for the military to train more closely with police in preparing for potential large-scale militant attacks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-security-stockpiling-idUSKCN10W0MJ
 
ARE GERMANY'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES RIPPING AT THE SEAMS?
BY RAKIB EHSAN
8/18/16​

Sex attacks in Cologne and other German cities; an attempted suicide bombing in Ansbach; a train stabbing spree in Würzburg. These crimes have left a growing number of Germans thinking the previously unthinkable: that Chancellor Angela Merkel—one of the most reasoned, hard-headed, astute politicians of our times—had been unwise to let her head be ruled by her heart during the refugee crisis.

Germany truly is a “land of immigration”. It is the second most popular migration destination in the world after the United States, and the country in Europe with the highest number of foreign nationals. A new immigration law in 2005 was born out of a realization that Germany was facing a demographic “time-bomb” from an ageing population and a declining birth rate. Migration was seen by much of the political class to be an economic necessity.

Between 2009-2014, annual net migration (from those immigrating to and emigrating from Germany) rose from 100,000 to 580,000. And the inflow of foreign nationals increased from 266,000 to 790,000. As of January 2015, 9.3 percent of residents in Germany were foreign nationals, with 12.6 percent born abroad. These figures have all risen exponentially following Merkel’s decision to allow roughly a million refugees and migrants into Germany.

Hardening attitudes

Germany, like other countries, has witnessed a hardening of what could be classified by some to be “anti-migrant” attitudes. Two comparative surveysconducted by the Mercator Foundation at the beginning of 2014 and the start of 2016 show conservative attitudes towards migration and integration are on the rise.

In the 2016 survey, the statement “we should not allow ourselves to be overrun by migrants” was supported by 41 percent of German respondents who did not have a migratory background. This was a 13-percentage point increase on the 2014 figure of 28 percent.

Whereas 33.5 percent of respondents demanded that Germany should exercise “stronger self-confidence” towards newly-arrived migrants at the start of 2014, by early 2016 44.5 percent held this attitude—some holding the view that strict limits should be imposed on “youth migration”.

In 2014, 36.2 percent of respondents held the view that the onus was on migrants alone when it came to adapting to life in Germany. Two years on, this figure had risen to 54.9 percent. The idea of integration being a “one-way street” where migrants should directly absorb themselves into the host country is gaining traction in broader German society.

Ethnic Turks' struggle to integrate

Many of the concerns over integration are heavily linked with the current state of affairs regarding Germany’s ethnic Turkish Muslim population. Turks are now the largest ethnic minority group in Germany. Despite the fact that many ethnic Turks moved to Germany as early as the 1960s under guest worker schemes, there are real causes for worry over a conflict in values.

Hardening religious attitudes held by some within this group means that ethnic Turks are increasingly seen to be detached from mainstream German society—a group, according to German sociologist Claus Mueller, that is “separated by cultural and religious lifestyles”.

A 2016 German study on integration and religion produced by the University of Münster exposed the popularity of deeply controversial socio-political attitudes held among some ethnic Turks living in Germany.

Out of 1,201 ethnic Turks interviewed in the study, 47 percent agreed that following the core tenets of Islam was more important to them than abiding by the laws of Germany. This view was shared by 36 percent of second and third generation respondents. Referring to attitudes clearly out-of-kilter with modern Germany, nearly a third of ethnic Turkish respondents (32 percent) supported the statement that Muslims should strive to return to a societal order like that in the time of the Prophet Muhammad.

Perhaps the most worrying figures were related to support for religiously-inspired violence: 20 percent of the respondents agreed that “the threat which the West poses to Islam justifies violence”, while 7 percent agreed that violence was justified as a means to “spread Islam”.

There is evidently a clear conflict in perspective between some ethnic Turks and native Germans in how they view Islam: 57 percent of ethnic Turks associated Islam with human rights, while only 6 percent of native Germans – interviewed in the same study—do so. And while 56 percent of ethnic Turks linked Islam with tolerance, only 5 percent of native Germans followed suit.

Questions for the future

Another glaring percentage-point difference came when participants were asked to assess Islam’s relationship with peace. Of those who replied to the survey, 65 percent of ethnic Turks believed Islam and peace went hand-in-hand—a full 58 percentage points higher than the paltry native German figure of 7 percent.

With powerful evidence of questionable social and religious attitudes being widely held among ethnic Turkish Muslims in Germany, its clear that there have been problems with Turkish integration in Germany. Over time this has created a fundamental fault line between German mainstream society and the country’s largest ethnic minority group.

Merkel’s government will need to work hard to make sure that the refugees and migrants who have now made their way to Germany – many of them also Muslims from Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan—do not struggle to integrate.

These are areas of the world where predominating social and cultural norms are inherently incompatible with the way that a considerable number of Germans view the way their society should work. Germany’s integration challenge with much of its ethnic Turkish population was already significant before the refugee crisis gathered pace. The introduction of a million refugees means that challenge has intensified to an unprecedented degree.

http://www.newsweek.com/germanys-immigration-policies-are-ripping-seams-491406
 
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Angela Merkel calls for 'loyalty' from German Turks
Chancellor Angela Merkel has called on German people of Turkish origin to "develop a high degree of loyalty" to Germany. Members of her conservative Christian Democrats have also called for an end to dual citizenship.

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Several thousand German Turks demonstrated in Cologne in support of Turkish President Recep Erdogan

Chancellor Angela Merkel made a new statement addressing fears among her conservative supporters about the divided loyalties of German Turks, a debate that has escalated in the aftermath of the attempted military coup against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

"Of those people of Turkish origin who have been living in Germany a long time, we expect them to develop a high degree of loyalty to our country," the chancellor told the "Passauer Neue Presse," a Bavarian newspaper. "In exchange we will try to keep an open ear to their concerns and to understand them."

Referring to a recent and much criticized pro-Erdogan rally that brought thousands of German Turks to the streets of Cologne to oppose the coup, Merkel took a similar line: "The freedom of opinion and demonstration applies in Germany to everyone who lives here, but of course everyone has to express their differences peacefully." There was no violence at the rally, which, though organized by representatives of the Erdogan administration, also included some opposition speakers.

'Part of Germany for decades'

Germany's biggest Turkish community organization, the TGD, offered a qualified response to Merkel's interview. After welcoming the chancellor's promise of dialogue, TGD chairman Gökay Sofuoglu wondered why the loyalty of Germany's Turkish community was suddenly being questioned.

"It's unacceptable that on the basis of the participation of people of Turkish background in a demonstration in Cologne that a loyalty debate is flaring up and milestones of social participation and belonging such as dual citizenship are being questioned," Sofuoglu said in a statement.

"We have been a part of Germany for decades and have considered ourselves as such for years," Sofuoglu said.

The conservative wing of Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) - often represented by its Bavarian sibling party, the Christian Social Union (CSU) - has recently reignited Germany's endless debate about the cultural assimilation of Turkish and Arab communities. As well as renewed calls for a ban on the burqa and the niqab, several politicians have called for the abolition of dual citizenship so as to force people with mixed parentage to choose which country they belong to.

"Dual citizenship is becoming more and more the rule. We don't want that - that's why we want to return to the old citizenship law," CSU General Secretary Andreas Scheuer told the "Rheinische Post" newspaper. He added that only immigrants who have lived in Germany for a long time and have clearly professed their allegiance to the country's "values and principles" should be granted citizenship.

Germany's citizenship laws were reformed at the end of 2014 so that people born in Germany to non-German parents and raised there were allowed to keep both German nationality and that of their parents. The law change was hailed at the time, not least by German President Joachim Gauck, as an "expression of the reality of a growing number of people."

The TGD has a withering response to Scheuer's demand to revert to the older law: "As always he left open the question of what having multiple nationalities has to do with loyalty to the society in which a person lives."

Loyalty conflicts

Other political voices in Germany's integration debate were also skeptical about Merkel's sentiment. Aydan Özoguz, the government's integration commissioner and a member of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), told the "Funke" media group that a significant majority of German Turks feel like they belong to Germany, and that their trust in German institutions is "undiminished."

"For that reason we shouldn't generalize and accuse these people of having loyalty conflicts," Özoguz said. "Instead, we should engage actively with those who want to express their Turkey-orientated political ambitions on German soil and use our free system for that."

"In this country it's not about loving the president or the government, but we should be allowed to expect respect, especially for our basic principles and the democratic rules," Özoguz said.

Meanwhile, Cemile Giousouf, integration spokeswoman for the CDU, said she supported Merkel's demand. "The German government invests a lot and works hard and sincerely so that everyone in Germany has the same opportunities," she said in a statement to DW. "There are many possibilities within the legal and the value system in Germany to offer your opinion and even criticism and help form the country. For me loyalty is demonstrated when people participate beyond their own or their group's interests for the community."

http://www.dw.com/en/angela-merkel-calls-for-loyalty-from-german-turks/a-19496043
 
Conflicting loyalties? Germany debates dual citizenship
Germany's debate on dual citizenship seems to be at odds with its inclusive approach to refugees - and its economic success story.


Earlier this week, Chancellor Angela Merkel announced that she and her government expect a "high level of loyalty" to be displayed by Germany's largest immigrant community: the Turkish diaspora. Her divisive remarks came after mass rallies were held in support of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan following last month's thwarted coup.

Recent security threats across the country have also prompted a re-evaluation of immigration strategy, putting the chancellor in the uncomfortable position of having to balance her welcoming approach toward refugees with the realities of Germany's history of lacking long-term plans to integrate new residents.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere also made remarks that seemed to challenge the allegiance of dual nationals, saying that allowing people to hold multiple citizenships was not a desirable long-term goal for the government.

The chairman of Germany's TGD Turkish community association, which primarily functions as a legal network, said he welcomed the chancellor's initiative as a way to advance the loyalty discussion, but he also criticized the idea that a series of unconnected events could call into question the allegiance of millions of people who live in Germany.

"It can't be that a debate on loyalty is sparked purely on the basis of ethnic Turks' participating at a rally in Cologne," Gökay Sofuoglu told DW, adding that "milestones of social integration and participation" were suddenly being questioned - including dual citizenship.

"We have played a major role in rebuilding this country," Sofuoglu said, referring to post-World War II reconstruction. "It is sad that the accomplishments of that first generation haven't been honored or even acknowledged but are rather repeatedly being questioned. All these discussions only go to prove this country's ingratitude and its total failure at its immigration policy."

'Mistakes were made'

Though having multiple nationalities is regarded as worldly and debonair in many cultures, Germany's attitude is more conflicted. The subject of dual citizenship can touch a nerve as Germany tries to nail down an identity in a multicultural age; the country has become the second most popular destination for immigration after the United States, according to UN figures.

"Germany now has 55 years of experience of dealing with migrants," Sofuoglu said. "We all know what mistakes were made in the past. It would be beneficial if - rather than continuing to alienate migrants and questioning their loyalties - we helped open doors and create opportunities for these people arriving in Germany now."

The response to terror threats is a factor in the dual nationality debate, as is the potential reintroduction of compulsory military conscription. German law automatically dictates the loss of citizenship in most instances if a national joins another nation's military, yet the armed forces are currently considering allowing citizens of other EU states to join.

A two-tiered society

The TGD's Sofuoglu argues that threatening to revoke dual citizenship and forcing people from ethnic minorities to choose creates "second-class German nationals" who have to live in constant fear of having their privileges taken away.

"No one would come up with the idea of revoking the citizenship of a native German without a migrant background who acts in an undesirable way," Sofuoglu said. "So why do other people who were also born and raised here have to abide by a different set of standards simply because they have their roots abroad? ... Because some of them chose to partake in a rally in favor of the Turkish president?"

"If loyalty to the state is such a problem, what about those right extremists protesting against Merkel and insinuating that she should be executed for allowing refugees to come to Germany?" Sofuoglu said. "Is that what they call loyalty?"

Economic fallout

Nearly 20 percent of Germany's population has a migrant background - defined as being born a noncitizen or having a recent ancestor who was - according to the Federal Statistical Office.

Taking Turkish citizens living in Germany into account as well as German citizens with at least one Turkish citizen parent, the number of people potentially affected by the current political discourse could be as high as 4 million - or roughly 5 percent of the population, according to numbers collated by David Audretsch, a professor at Indiana University Bloomington. Audretsch, an economist, examined the impact that "migrant" communities have had in Germany for the book "The Seven Secrets of Germany," which he wrote with Erik E. Lehmann.

"Germany has benefited from this influx of foreigners since the early 1960s," Audretsch told DW. "It has become the envy of the EU if not the rest of the world. Germany has shifted away from its image a century ago of 'the sick man of Europe' because of its Turkish population - not despite it."

"Not only does this recent change in attitude amount to ingratitude to generations of foreigners that have rebuilt Germany, but in economics terms, this is a barrier to entry for new human capital wanting to come to Germany," Audretsch said. "It is a step backward that could really hurt Germany."

Ever-changing immigration laws

The German government ironed out the conditions under which dual citizenship can be attained in a series of legislative measures since 2000. Audretsch said a successively liberal approach toward immigration since then had contributed in a large part to changing the way that Germany is perceived.

"In some ways, Germany is moving toward the same standard of citizenship consistent with most countries," Audretsch said. "Germany learned that it's good business to have a more inclusive policy on immigration."

Under the current law, the majority of non-EU adult migrants will still be required to make up their minds about whether they want to keep their native nationalities or forfeit them in order to become citizens when they qualify.

Their descendants could have dual nationality into adulthood under certain circumstances if they spend significant lengths of time in Germany attending school. While this may allow more people to retain their dual citizenships in the long run, representative numbers are yet to be seen as this amendment to German nationality law was only passed at the end of 2014. It is precisely this legal loophole that conservative politicians would like to see revoked.

The TGD's Sofuoglu said that Germany would create a generation with conflicting loyalties if it backtracked on the current law.

"In the German language, people speak of a 'fatherland,'" Sofuoglu said. "But in Turkish, the term that is used is 'motherland.' Imagine what it must be like to be torn between the two - to have to choose between a mother and a father. That's how many Turks are made to feel, increasingly so in the current climate."

Audretsch said taking steps to limit citizenship choices for migrants and their descendants would amount to an economic withdrawal - "the Brexit of Germany."

"Germany struggles to live with the heterogeneity created by decades of immigration despite its economic benefits," Audretsch said. "But the capacity of Germany to live with its tradition and also embrace the opportunities of the modern world has been the backbone of its success story. Places that harbor diversity always do better. A step backward from that position would come at a high cost."

http://www.dw.com/en/conflicting-loyalties-germany-debates-dual-citizenship/a-19500898
 
The old world is so effing retarded in every possible way.

Germany is doomed.
 
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