Gamrot’s Time to Shine

[Pious Augustus]

I hope he gets the next TS

I think he’s the toughest fight in the division for both Islam and Oliveira

He has some of the best wrestling/grappling in MMA history IMO just judging by the eye test… he’s such a pleasure to watch if you’re a grappling nerd

and a very very good cardio, the guy is a beast

 

[markys00]

It also shows how bullshit the rankings are lol

Must be really frustrating to be one of the best fighters in the deepest divisions and not be ranked because the UFC wants to bury you

Not really. I mean, they arent great, but at least they go off of who people have fought. If you do it off just skill, then ppl would complain even more.

 

[fortheo]

I’d have to rewatch the fights. I remember Dariush winning the grappling, but it was somewhat back and forth with Ferreira winning some of the exchanges throughout the fight.

I remember Gamrot taking him down at will and being in control every time a grappling exchange occurred, Ferreira was able to get up a few times early, but I think Gamrot is really smart about his energy management and didn’t fight super hard to keep him down. And he ended up getting the finish fairly early while Dariush won a split decision.

Like I said I’d have to rewatch both fights though.

Gamrot disengaged very quickly everytime he took ferreira down, and to ferreira's credit, he was scrambling like a mad man in that fight. Ferreira was great, though. It's a shame age and injuries caught up to him at the same time when the ufc finally started to let him facce ranked guys.

 

[StonedLemur]

Dariush is up in age and tends to gas, that's not good, especially against monster like Gamrot. Besides a hail Mary one shot ko, Gamrot has Dariush covered everywhere.

Gamrot is 31 and Dariush is 33

 

[podsox]

Dariush is up in age and tends to gas, that's not good, especially against monster like Gamrot. Besides a hail Mary one shot ko, Gamrot has Dariush covered everywhere.

Dariush has an insane pace to his fights.

 

[Luckyme]

UFC 280 is so stacked that this fight is being overlooked. It has FOTN potential and the winner likely fights for the title next. After the main event, this is the fight I'm most looking forward to.

I have a feeling Gamrot will outclass Dariush.

 

[jx820]

I can't imagine Gamrot gets the next title shot.

It's very possible that Volk is next.

If Islam wins it's going to be a clean slate for Dustin, Chandler, and Gaethje since Islam never fought them. So at least one of those gets made probably the Winner of Dustin vs Chandler.

None of that is even to speak of the possibility of Conor being 1 tune up from a title shot.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Yeah Dariush has good BJJ, but I don’t think he could win the ADCC trials like Gamrot did

Gamrot’s overall grappling ability is a lot higher IMO

Look at how they both did against Ferreira

This isn't a good rebuttal, 1. Dariush stopped competing in BJJ as a brown to focus on MMA primarily around 23 years old but absolutely showed the potential to win an ADCC trial. 2. Diego Ferreira and Gamrot had a very close first round grappling wise, Diego is getting up there in age and was amidst a skid when he fought Gamrot. 3. The Euro ADCC trials are far less competitive than the US ones. 4. Beneil showed an elite guard as a purple and brown belt in his weight category and in absolutes, even gave ADCC gold medalist Kron Gracie a hell of a match from his back. Beneil was a 21 year old purple belt submitting competition black belts off his back, his guard was notorious good.

Gamrots wrestling is for sure higher, he was a multiple time Polish national champion in freestyle and even competed at the World games. Gamrot is a hell of a lot quicker in scrambles and transitions too but I think while fresh Beneil will have a lot for Gamrot on the mat, Gamrots top control and physical strength at 155lbs have always been lacking.

 

[Poirierfan]

Gamrot is 31 and Dariush is 33

Oops, ha.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

For people who weren't following Gamrot outside the UFC, the guy fought a lot of great fighters like Kleber Koike, Mansour Barnaoui, Marif Piraev and even in the UFC Diego Ferreira went tooth and nail with Dariush, Kutateladze and Arman are both top 10 caliber. I think this is a bit different but I do think it's a close fight, Beneil has all the power Standing and is the bigger more aggressive guy. On the mat Beneil had an amazing guard at the Purple and Brown belt level medalling in and out of the Gi at world's in Bjj but we haven't seen that part of his game tested too much in MMA, Beneil gasses though and Gamrot is a grinder of the highest degree we know he can fo 25 minutes strong, he's the better athlete and the quicker fighter. Gamrot will most likely dictate the pace and where the fight takes place, Beneil will have the more significant moments early and depending on how much he fades Gamrot probably pulls away with another hard fought decision.

I agree with some of this analysis, it's definitely very strong and accurate information, but what I feel might be missing is a real analysis of Gamrot's propensity to scramble his way out of trouble - because his pace is so intense, he's often able to gloss over losing positions and lacking real top control. I'm really not sure he'll be able to win back those positions against Beneil...

My concern is that he's shown he will struggle to dominate at this level - against Guram, and against Arman - two perfectly legitimate, high level opponents, no doubt, but his style leaves a lot to chance IMO - he gives opponents opportunities, and yes, that's what makes him so fun, and that's what makes his incredible record even more impressive - because he's not watertight, but he wins.

I actually think Gamrot is going to have to lean on being the less predictable striker - but in terms of all the basics, on the feet and the mat, Beneil is so damn solid that I think this could be an unusually difficult fight for Mateusz.

Does that make sense?

They're pretty similar in terms of metrics, the main difference is the sheer volume, pace and activity of Gamrot - I'm just not sure how it serves him particularly well against Dariush.

Either way, I expect it to be DAMN close!

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Not really. I mean, they arent great, but at least they go off of who people have fought. If you do it off just skill, then ppl would complain even more.

Yeah but they choose who people fight/don't fight lol

 

[Herwald]

He's a fun dude to watch, that's all I know. Hope he wins enough to stick around and deliver some more bangers.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Gamrot disengaged very quickly everytime he took ferreira down, and to ferreira's credit, he was scrambling like a mad man in that fight. Ferreira was great, though. It's a shame age and injuries caught up to him at the same time when the ufc finally started to let him facce ranked guys.

Yeah I don't see that as Gamrot doing worse on the ground than Dariush though

I think that's an example of Gamrot's really, really high-level fight IQ/energy management

 

[HuskySamoan]

I agree with some of this analysis, it's definitely very strong and accurate information, but what I feel might be missing is a real analysis of Gamrot's propensity to scramble his way out of trouble - because his pace is so intense, he's often able to gloss over losing positions and lacking real top control. I'm really not sure he'll be able to win back those positions against Beneil...

My concern is that he's shown he will struggle to dominate at this level - against Guram, and against Arman - two perfectly legitimate, high level opponents, no doubt, but his style leaves a lot to chance IMO - he gives opponents opportunities, and yes, that's what makes him so fun, and that's what makes his incredible record even more impressive - because he's not watertight, but he wins.

I actually think Gamrot is going to have to lean on being the less predictable striker - but in terms of all the basics, on the feet and the mat, Beneil is so damn solid that I think this could be an unusually difficult fight for Mateusz.

Does that make sense?

They're pretty similar in terms of metrics, the main difference is the sheer volume, pace and activity of Gamrot - I'm just not sure how it serves him particularly well against Dariush.

Either way, I expect it to be DAMN close!

Beneil's striking is pretty disappointing and hasn't really evolved much. He mainly throws the left hard and the left leg hard but doesn't really set it up or have many other weapons. It was painfully on display vs Drakkar Klose and really in all his fights. Beneils never really shown the ability to put his strikes together or throw in combination. We'll see, Gamrot has less predictable striking and better footwork but is truly pillow fisted. This fight to me is such a fun contrast.

 

[StonedLemur]

Oops, ha.

Lol, I forgive you sir.

 

[FreedomCricket]

I'm taking the bet. For how long do you want to keep the new avatar?

Let's go until my birthday (3/10/23)

 

[Bend NvR Break]

It also shows how bullshit the rankings are lol

Must be really frustrating to be one of the best fighters in the deepest divisions and not be ranked because the UFC wants to bury you

I said when the UFC first introduced rankings that it would lead to more not less fuckery in the long run.

Now we have to deal with UFC rankings manipulations for promotion sake and rank squatters that demand to only fight people ranked ahead of then them. Smh.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

This isn't a good rebuttal, 1. Dariush stopped competing in BJJ as a brown to focus on MMA primarily around 23 years old but absolutely showed the potential to win an ADCC trial. 2. Diego Ferreira and Gamrot had a very close first round grappling wise, Diego is getting up there in age and was amidst a skid when he fought Gamrot. 3. The Euro ADCC trials are far less competitive than the US ones. 4. Beneil showed an elite guard as a purple and brown belt in his weight category and in absolutes, even gave ADCC gold medalist Kron Gracie a hell of a match from his back. Beneil was a 21 year old purple belt submitting competition black belts off his back, his guard was notorious good.

Gamrots wrestling is for sure higher, he was a multiple time Polish national champion in freestyle and even competed at the World games. Gamrot is a hell of a lot quicker in scrambles and transitions too but I think while fresh Beneil will have a lot for Gamrot on the mat, Gamrots top control and physical strength at 155lbs have always been lacking.

I don't recall it being close, I remember Gamrot being in control the entire fight. I think people misinterpret Gamrot not fighting to keep Fereira down to preserve his energy as not being able to handle Fereira's bottom game... and Gamrot finished him in the second round while Dariush won a split decision... as I said previously in the thread though I could be misremembering.

Dariush fought Fereira not even a year before Gamrot did... I think he was pretty much the same guy when he fought Gamrot.

I agree Dariush will have a lot for Gamrot on the mat early, and probably has better pure BJJ than Gamrot which is why Gamrot won't commit to engaging on the ground while Dariush is fresh. IMO Gamrot's overall grappling level is higher though, and if they fought under ADCC rules Gamrot would win IMO.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Beneil's striking is pretty disappointing and hasn't really evolved much. He mainly throws the left hard and the left leg hard but doesn't really set it up or have many other weapons. It was painfully on display vs Drakkar Klose and really in all his fights. Beneils never really shown the ability to put his strikes together or throw in combination. We'll see, Gamrot has less predictable striking and better footwork but is truly pillow fisted. This fight to me is such a fun contrast.

I agree, I think it's a great fight.

What I'm seeing from some corners that favour Gamrot to win pretty strongly is this sense that Gamrot is a 'fresh, young' fighter against an 'old, shopworn' veteran.

I much prefer what you're saying to that fake narrative - which could be a pitfall for many bettors, as I really do think Dariush has every chance, and is nowhere near the worn out veteran that seems to have been invented overnight.

If anything I'm 51 % on Gamrot, 49 % on Dariush, and don't really care who wins - I'm just looking forward to the fight!

 

[SherdogWasNeverMyFriend]

Let's go until my birthday (3/10/23)

I gotchu fam. We'll settle after the fight.