Television Game of Thrones S08E06 Discussion Thread: Burn them all! (the writing staff) | Our Watch has ended

[Wolf Of Sherdog]

Lagertha practicing judo on the hilltop absolutely looked like a LARPER.

Judo? Could have been glima. Cant remember that scene

 

[Threetrees]

Most series endings leave much to be desired, so it’s not like GoT is the only guilty party there.. but the show writers gassed 2 seasons ago and let complete lazy pacing and story telling finish a really beloved series and that’s just shitty. No excuses.

I wish they would have just handed it off

 

[SheetsMMAfan]

Jon was never meant to be king & the unsullied left Westeros.

This season wasn't meant to be, and alot of things that weren't "meant to be" happened....

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Finale =

 

[Loiosh]

You're right but it just feels too hamfisted, and it was so background that its impact wasn't really felt by me (and it seems a lot of the audience). Which is what I believe he means when it said it didn't matter much. It could have just been replaced by another plot device and it wouldn't have been drastically different.
There's a problem with plot devices feel like plot devices.

I don't see it that way at all. I don't see it as a plot device.

I see it as an incredibly important thread throughout the entire story. The perceptions carried an enormous amount of weight, and the ultimate reveal had the thunderous ramifications you would expect.

 

[FyrFytr998]

Jon killing Danny? I mean it's kind of predictable.. but you had lots of people saying Arya would kill Danny or Danny would kill Jon

Until I read the spoiler last week. I had a coin toss pick between Jamie and Arya for killing Cersi. Very few had Jon doing the deed out of his characters need to remain honorable. And Bran with his Dr. Strange style comments just reinforces the notion he knew exactly how it was gonna play out Endgame style, and what to say to get it to that point.

 

[brokenjaw]

Upon giving the season some further thought, I will say that it had some really great moments. Daenerys Hitler was an interesting concept that on its own should've lasted an entire season. Same thing goes with NK attacking and dying at Winterfell and Cersei screwing over everyone. However, due to writers having an apparent attention span of a hyperactive 12 year old, they crammed everything into a 6 episode dumpster fire mess. It is what is... Shogun should have been 2-0 against Machida and 1-1 with Hendo, but history had other plans. Here's hoping the spin offs are better.

 

[HYBRID_CFC]

Lol that scene was so anticlimactic...only Drogons response saved it.

 

[HenryFlower]

This season wasn't meant to be, and alot of things that weren't "meant to be" happened....

huh

 

[Threetrees]

I don't see it that way at all. I don't see it as a plot device.

I see it as an incredibly important thread throughout the entire story. The perceptions carried an enormous amount of weight, and the ultimate reveal had the thunderous ramifications you would expect.

Sure but not the thunderous impact on the audience as a whole, which is what you want something like that to do

Its one thing if something completely makes sense and is impactful to the story
Its another thing to make that story thread feel big to the audience. And its not just nerdy people, casual people are dissatisfied with the big moments played out - so I'd like to avoid the argument about nerds being mad. And if Jon's parentage was to be taken as one of the big important pieces of information to the audience, it should feel that way or else the story tellers aren't doing their jobs.

But it's going to be subjective, because it may have landed that way to you. But just from reactions I've seen from a range of viewers, it doesn't seem to be the way it landed for most. And in those terms we can look at whether or not Jon's parentage was truly vital to the story telling process, or if it could have just been replaced by something else.

 

[Loiosh]

Thats a good reason to guess though, I could see GRRM writing himself into the story for sure.

My guess was always Jon, but in some tragic unhappy way - like he was king of a ruined world or something
clearly I was very wrong lol

I have never really thought I knew that was going to happen. I picked Sam to be the most likely. If there had been a poll and Bran's name had been on it I would have picked him as the least likely possible choice. He isn't human any more. It doesn't make any sense. It's my one serious complaint about this season (yes, I only have ONE, apart from the brevity).

I actually kind of thought Jon would die in the finale.

 

[Thunderchild]

King's Landing gas stations have the tastiest bottled water lmao. I can't believe they didn't CGI this out after the latte controversy. Zero fucks given.

 

[HenryFlower]

if Bran = king ends up being the same in the books, does that mean he will be repotted & placed in the spot where the iron throne was stood?

 

[method115]

Overall I'm satisfied with the way it ended. Picking Bran was the smartest thing they could have done but it's hard for me to believe they would all go along with it without actually knowing what Bran really is. If they saw what he could really do and then choose him it would make more sense. Should have had him go around telling\hinting at deep secrets about each person there so they really understood what he was.

Sansa separating the North was great that's what the North always wanted and they finally got it. Arya leaving was obvious. Was glad to see Snow was going to live the life he always wanted.

They needed more time to really build up the Danny\Snow love. The whole thing felt to rushed and killing her didn't seem like such a big deal. I kind of understand the whole dragon riding scene now they were trying to rush the "we're in love" stuff to make this ending feel more impactful. Didn't work though you need like a season or 2 of that.

 

[bufetadanacara]

Garbage season.

I doubt that last episode took more than an hour to write, talk about mailing it in.

 

[Graves The Elder]

"No, THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING are not finished," Martin wrote in an entry headlined, "Idiocy on the Internet" on his site. "DREAM is not even begun; I am not going to start writing volume seven until I finish volume six."

You won't see any more books out of this fat fuck.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Drogon should have just flown in out of nowhere and laid total waste to the exiled Jon with everyone else as collateral damage.

Delayed revenge for killing mommy.

All snow would have been turned into boiled bloody water from the flames of vengeance.

Then you would have had something of substance to discuss today.

 

[Halge]

Just watched the episode.

A bit uneven.

Spoiler

1. Not much actually happened. I mean, in the sense that the sum total of the plot was Jon goes to see Daenarys, kills her, then everything gets resolved in deus ex machina fashion reminiscent of that Moliére play. I wish there had been more events occurring before the meeting between leaders of the land, because that part felt a bit empty.

2. Some things didn't make sense. Jon should not have been allowed to speak to Tyrion alone for so long, should not have been allowed to meet Daenarys without supervision, and should definitely have been charbroiled by the dragon after killing her.
The peace conference or whatever you want to call it was probably the weakest part of the episode.
It made no sense for Tyrion and Jon to even still be alive (Grey Worm ought to have killed them), nor did it make sense for Tyrion to be allowed to speak. And it gets ridiculous when he is allowed to pontificate, and appoints Bran of all people (there's no logic to his argument. You might as well appoint some random peasant.) It seems out of character for the leaders to agree, too. And far as I can tell Grey Worm went from the table with none of his demands met.

3. After that, things get better. I liked how they wrapped up the fates of the main characters. I don't really get why Arya would suddenly choose to go exploring the sea (does she know much about sailing?). Thought maybe she could have gotten a more interesting ending. But whatever, maybe there have been prolepses in earlier seasons to make her ending more of a payoff, and I just don't remember them. Half expected her to go all lesbian and explore the seas with Theons sister though.
I didn't quite understand what happened to Jon in the very end. Did he leave the Nights Watch to go live with the Wildlings? Or was the expedition beyond the wall at the end just a Nights Watch mission?

 

[blaseblah]

Tyrion deciding the fate of the realms didn't make sense with him as a prisoner. Should've kept it so he doesn't betray Dany last episode and doesn't give up his position as hand of the king.

 

[Threetrees]

I have never really thought I knew that was going to happen. I picked Sam to be the most likely. If there had been a poll and Bran's name had been on it I would have picked him as the least likely possible choice. He isn't human any more. It doesn't make any sense. It's my one serious complaint about this season (yes, I only have ONE, apart from the brevity).

I actually kind of thought Jon would die in the finale.

Same. I like the ending he got. Feels warranted and earned. And it's a happier ending than I thought he'd get when this season started