Gaidojutsu, WTF?

[nefti]

jitsu denotes jutsu spelled wrong by foreigners.

a japanese word "spelled wrong" in english.. the irony.

 

[kuuteppi]

a japanese word "spelled wrong" in english.. the irony.

yeah, heh.
It's just a difference in the romanisation. eg. jiu-jitsu = jujutsu.

It's also kinda funny how judo is always spelled with a "ju" in english but jiu-jitsu is (almost) always spelled with a "jiu" even though they're the same syllable in japanese.

 

[kuuteppi]

a japanese word "spelled wrong" in english.. the irony.

yeah, heh.
It's just a difference in the romanisation. eg. jiu-jitsu = jujutsu.

It's also kinda funny how judo is always spelled with a "ju" in english but jiu-jitsu is (almost) always spelled with a "jiu" even though they're the same syllable in japanese.

 

[Randy Chung]

gaidojutsu

gai - chicken, slang for prostitute.
gaijin - foreigner
do - way
jutsu - technique, method, skill, trick

so,

looking at it in the right would be.

Way of the Foreigner, using jutsu as an additive in order of increasing conspicuousness

or

The Fighting Way of the Foreigner,

using jutsu to describe fighting in general.

Hey do you speak Japanese?

That's weird... in Chinese, "gai" also means chicken and is a slang for prostitute.

 

[shera]

Ever heard of the rape prevention martials arts marketed to women called Kawkjitsu?

 

[nefti]

yeah, heh.
It's just a difference in the romanisation. eg. jiu-jitsu = jujutsu.

It's also kinda funny how judo is always spelled with a "ju" in english but jiu-jitsu is (almost) always spelled with a "jiu" even though they're the same syllable in japanese.

iirc the spelling "Jiu" was first done by the gracies to make sure that people would know that it's their jiu jitsu. AFAIK, no one used Jiu before the gracies.

 

[FFJC805]

in kelly criggers book, title shot, he interviews greg jackson who says that basically he made it up. he thought it sounded cool and different. seems to be working well for him.

 

[TigerArm]

although if gaidojutsu is supposed to be correctly worded, it would either have to drop the -jutsu or -do. and more properly swap -jutsu- with -jitsu, which denotes a combat-oriented fighting system, while -do denotes a philosophical based fighting system

Do just means 'way'. I.E, Judo means 'the gentle way,' not 'the gentle philosophical fighting system.' There's no philosophy involved. I could come up with 'dishwashdo' meaning the 'way of washing dishes' if i wanted to. :icon_chee

 

[mugicha]

I do speak Japanese and your Googled explanation is incorrect, sorry. The "gai" in gaijin means outside, not chicken or prostitute. "jin" means person, so a foreigner is an "outside person".

Sounds like he made up gaidojutsu anyway, regardless of chickens, prostitutes, or foreigners.

 

[JudoThrowdown]

I have some infos of Gaidojutsu.

It is created in 1992 by Greg Jackson. He once practiced traditional arts like Aikido, Taekwondo, Judo, etc. His parents encouraged him to do Aikido which they thought of it as a "peaceful art." However, Greg kept fighting with thugy kids in neighborhood who are mostly spanish and are good at boxing. He said he mostly ended up boxing or grappling with them. He complained to his mom that no one would grab is wrists in street fight, thus Aikido being useless. He then tried wrestling and found that wrestling is an effective style. As mentioned, he opened his school in 1992, teaching Gaidojutsu- combination of wrestling with basic judo locks. The then incorporated other styles like kickboxing. After 1993, he realized that bjj is effective, thus studied it to incorporate that as well. MMA itself also had impact on further upgrading Gaidojutsu. Greg Jackson intended this to be self defense system, but his students kept fighting in mma events and such. Up to 2000, he taught commoners and law enforcement officials. Then he turned his school into MMA school-Jacksons Submission Fighting.

He wrote a book with techinique photos. Recommending everyone to check it out.

 

[Keej613]

My favorite will always be Ju-Box-Fu. Really.

Is that the shitty version of Kajukenbo?

 

[Keej613]

iirc the spelling "Jiu" was first done by the gracies to make sure that people would know that it's their jiu jitsu. AFAIK, no one used Jiu before the gracies.

I don't know if that's correct because loads of Japanese-influenced "Jiu-Jitsu" schools in Canada have been spelling their names that way ("Jiu-Jitsu") since long before anyone in Canada had ever heard of the Gracies, BJJ or UFC.

 

[tysnw]

Hey do you speak Japanese?

That's weird... in Chinese, "gai" also means chicken and is a slang for prostitute.

Randy, isn't 'gai' the cantonese word for chicken? Because i speak mainland chinese, and chicken is 'ji'. I also speak cantonese (a dialect of chinese, for non-chinese.) and there 'gai' is chicken. Haha off topic but, well.

 

[aznraven]

Too many pages to read till the end, but if "Gaido" wai comprised of Gai and do as seperate words, it would not even make sense to why Jitsu and do are in the name of the style.

Do = Way (It denotes a philosophical style, rather than straight up combat style)

*Some argue that the "Do" arts are styles that are focused mostly on spirituality and growth, which i disagree in as most of them derived from jitsu styles.

Jitsu = Fighting art or skill


So, It is possible that the "Kanji" written up for this word would be laughable by the Japanese for having no meaning at all. It like having the Japanese coin together an "English" word with random alphabets...

 

[Colmilho]

It's japanese for "way of the street". Jackson invented it for the sole purpose of self-defense. He has taught his art to several swat teams after being requested. It's in his book.

 

[Tha_MMAn**]

Gay-Do-Jitsu FTW!

 

[fightingrabbit]

you mean guidojitsu. no? oh.

 

[206warrior]

Is kajukenbo legit?

 

[Maxbig**]

iirc the spelling "Jiu" was first done by the gracies to make sure that people would know that it's their jiu jitsu. AFAIK, no one used Jiu before the gracies.

lol you got all your history wrong. There was japanese jujutsu. Then judo derived from japanese jujutsu. Judo was originally spelled Jiu-do. When the japanese brought jiu-do to Brazil, people were still calling it Kano jiu-jitsu. (i'm guessing the spelling change of jiu-jitsu as opposed to jujutsu or jujitsu was just something that occured naturally, nothing intentional). So when Maeda taught Judo to the gracies, they thought they were leaning Kano jiu-jitsu, or jiu-jitsu. Thus, when they 'created' BJJ, they were calling it the brazilian form of what they learned from Maeda, which was actually Judo, but they thought it was 'jiu-jitsu.' So brazilian jiu-jitsu is actually supposed to be called brazilian judo...

 

[polsarc]

I have some infos of Gaidojutsu.

It is created in 1992 by Greg Jackson. He once practiced traditional arts like Aikido, Taekwondo, Judo, etc. His parents encouraged him to do Aikido which they thought of it as a "peaceful art." However, Greg kept fighting with thugy kids in neighborhood who are mostly spanish and are good at boxing. He said he mostly ended up boxing or grappling with them. He complained to his mom that no one would grab is wrists in street fight, thus Aikido being useless. He then tried wrestling and found that wrestling is an effective style. As mentioned, he opened his school in 1992, teaching Gaidojutsu- combination of wrestling with basic judo locks. The then incorporated other styles like kickboxing. After 1993, he realized that bjj is effective, thus studied it to incorporate that as well. MMA itself also had impact on further upgrading Gaidojutsu. Greg Jackson intended this to be self defense system, but his students kept fighting in mma events and such. Up to 2000, he taught commoners and law enforcement officials. Then he turned his school into MMA school-Jacksons Submission Fighting.

He wrote a book with techinique photos. Recommending everyone to check it out.

That's awesome. He knew from experience what's useful and useless on the streets.