Fury/Jones - SMH…

[Travis Alexander]

Dana said this on Joe Rogan years ago.

Well that’s a fucking lie.

 

[Streeter]

Fair enough, I'm not going to try and change your mind.

I just find it odd that the same argument always comes up with Jones that he never lost because the decision to DQ him was bullshit, yet the same people also argue he didn't lose to Reyes even tough that decision was also bullshit.

Either what the ref/judge says is the most important factor in determining a fighter's record, or what happens in the cage is the most important factor. Both can't be true.

For what it's worth, I agree that the loss to Hamill wasn't really an L. However, if we're talking about what happened in the cage rather than what happened according to refs and judges, Jones still has an L on his record from the Reyes fight imo.

Good chatting to you dude.

Do you give L to all fighters that win close decision they could of easily lost ? In that case you go alot records to change.

 

[checktheknuckles]

It's called Mixed Martial Arts, not kick boxing or boxing. Taking somebody down is part of the game. He won in 2:04 sec., and took NO damage. That's called smart! Jones isnt Justin Gaethje, he wins in the best way possible. Haters are going to hate I guess.

SO you admit Jon would look even more desperate in taking Fury down than he did against Gane. Nice.

 

[DeathByCaranos]

keep that same energy when I get nominated for 2023 Poster of the Year

I'll be sure to remind you that you're trash

 

[cmw43]

But yeah his pettiness with Nagannou is transparent and hilarious as hell

"No way will we let Francis fight Fury. He's under contract"
"Fury should get his ass over here and fight Jones. We can afford it."

Its a bit different Fury coming to UFC than Ngannou going and chasing an external boxing match where he'll get wrecked, where's the upside for UFC there?

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Doesn’t Dana just drive you nuts lol?

The man constantly perpetuates this nonsense narrative that they don’t do freak-show fights. Yes, we know that he’s broken this rule a few times, and we are more than happy to just let it ride.

That said, the nonsense coming out of his mouth tonight just makes me chuckle.

“We found a way to pay Floyd, we’ll pay you too Tyson”.

The way this man lives on this mound, pretending that he’s the greatest promoter ever, as if Floyd and Showtime didn’t control the entire event and his boy got absolutely smashed.

Post Fertitta era, who has this man ‘made’? Ronda, Brock, Jon, Silva, GSP, Conor, Nate, Mas, they all came under the roof of Lorenzo and Frank.

This man has gone PowerSlap on us - haven’t you guys woke up and smelt the coffee yet? Man is a fraud.

Cannot wait until he’s gone.

Dear diary…

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

does anyone else think this would be silly for tyson to pass on.

i understand its extremely unlikely he wins. its not a 0% chance though.

most likely jon takes him down and subs him round one. easy money for both guys. no shame in losing to a goat from another sport. possibly minimal damage taken.

slight chance tyson could crack him and win.

if toney managed to crack couture it could have been different randy did not have the chin to take on a boxer, tim sylvia went out vs ray mercer. these guys all they had to do was land a takedown but if you compare the two fights you can see what can happen if they fail to do that fast enough.

tyson may be the type of build thats easy to keep grounded and off balance on paper it really doesn't go in his favor but at the off chance he won that sort of thing would never be repeated. its not often you can have opportunity to best a goat in another sport. a guy like jon may never come around again.

he doesn't need to take the fight. just seems like easy money and a chance at accomplishing the seemingly impossible.

I think you’re silly for freely posting such idiocy.

 

[chimpoehurricane]

Doesn’t Dana just drive you nuts lol?

The man constantly perpetuates this nonsense narrative that they don’t do freak-show fights. Yes, we know that he’s broken this rule a few times, and we are more than happy to just let it ride.

That said, the nonsense coming out of his mouth tonight just makes me chuckle.

“We found a way to pay Floyd, we’ll pay you too Tyson”.

The way this man lives on this mound, pretending that he’s the greatest promoter ever, as if Floyd and Showtime didn’t control the entire event and his boy got absolutely smashed.

Post Fertitta era, who has this man ‘made’? Ronda, Brock, Jon, Silva, GSP, Conor, Nate, Mas, they all came under the roof of Lorenzo and Frank.

This man has gone PowerSlap on us - haven’t you guys woke up and smelt the coffee yet? Man is a fraud.

Cannot wait until he’s gone.

Dana on wmma lol

 

[Canadian Kicker]

Guys this is all just PR.
We all know Jones is not going to box Fury.
We all know Fury is not going into a cage with Jones.

But we have now gone weeks and ain't nobody talking about Francis boxing Fury anymore. Not even Fury.

 

[Cobra 03]

SO you admit Jon would look even more desperate in taking Fury down than he did against Gane. Nice.

I don't think I admitted to anything, except Jones knows how to win. It's funny to me, that A guy who has never been really beaten, can be called desperate. Think what you want, the guy is still the best ever.

 

[Bojka]

All Fury needs to do is stop using the UFC to self-promote. Then Dana will stop talking about him in return.

 

[CroCopsLHK]

Its a bit different Fury coming to UFC than Ngannou going and chasing an external boxing match where he'll get wrecked, where's the upside for UFC there?

True that. Dana never stuck up for the idea of Fury coming to ufc to fight Ngannou.

Having someone like Tyson Fury come into ufc to fight your HW champ is a big deal. This isn't James Toney. If he wins UFC is fucked. He would have to sign a contract so EVEN IF HE WINS HE WONT BE FREE

Now all of this is insane-o talk but Dana only talked about it after all the Ngannou drama whom wanted to fight Fury

 

[checktheknuckles]

I don't think I admitted to anything, except Jones knows how to win. It's funny to me, that A guy who has never been really beaten, can be called desperate. Think what you want, the guy is still the best ever.

Jon was definitely desperate in his attempt. Would look even more desperate against Fury.

 

[Poatan Power]

Doesn’t Dana just drive you nuts lol?

The man constantly perpetuates this nonsense narrative that they don’t do freak-show fights. Yes, we know that he’s broken this rule a few times, and we are more than happy to just let it ride.

That said, the nonsense coming out of his mouth tonight just makes me chuckle.

“We found a way to pay Floyd, we’ll pay you too Tyson”.

The way this man lives on this mound, pretending that he’s the greatest promoter ever, as if Floyd and Showtime didn’t control the entire event and his boy got absolutely smashed.

Post Fertitta era, who has this man ‘made’? Ronda, Brock, Jon, Silva, GSP, Conor, Nate, Mas, they all came under the roof of Lorenzo and Frank.

This man has gone PowerSlap on us - haven’t you guys woke up and smelt the coffee yet? Man is a fraud.

Cannot wait until he’s gone.

The closest "freak show" fights has been Toney/Couture and, which was valuable in proving a point. Letting a WWE star who had a potential for draw power a la Brock made sense on paper if it worked, and it was no harm/no foul if it failed. Dana also said no women's MMA. Obviously, course correcting and making targeted decisions for revenue potential makes sense. Dana has a bit of leash considering what he's turned the UFC into as a corporation, he's earned the right to make a few wrong turns so long as the ship stays the course. For every slap league there's also TUF, DWCS, Fight Island, the UFC training center(s), international development, etc.

Too easy to shit on a guy for being billions of dollars into good decisions for a few gaff decisions or ones that didn't work out that well.

It's also pretty hilarious that you want to give everyone on the periphery of Dana credit for all of his accomplishments, even though they succinctly and adamantly give him the credit for the success of the organization.

 

[joeson]

Floyd/Showtime paid the UFC, sure Zuffa/UFC got a co-promoter title but they were just along for the ride and got paid, not the other way around it.

Showtime and Floyd had to pay McGregor’s pimp to use him for the night.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Doesn’t Dana just drive you nuts lol?

The man constantly perpetuates this nonsense narrative that they don’t do freak-show fights. Yes, we know that he’s broken this rule a few times, and we are more than happy to just let it ride.

That said, the nonsense coming out of his mouth tonight just makes me chuckle.

“We found a way to pay Floyd, we’ll pay you too Tyson”.

The way this man lives on this mound, pretending that he’s the greatest promoter ever, as if Floyd and Showtime didn’t control the entire event and his boy got absolutely smashed.

Post Fertitta era, who has this man ‘made’? Ronda, Brock, Jon, Silva, GSP, Conor, Nate, Mas, they all came under the roof of Lorenzo and Frank.

This man has gone PowerSlap on us - haven’t you guys woke up and smelt the coffee yet? Man is a fraud.

Cannot wait until he’s gone.

That is an interesting point.
After the Fertittas left, no more stars got made.

 

[Yellowcrab]

True that. Dana never stuck up for the idea of Fury coming to ufc to fight Ngannou.

Hence why Fury said he won't fight Jones in MMA.

If Dana was so scared, Fury would not need to say anything and hurt his tough guy image by only accepting a boxing match.

But Fury already made it extremely clear for everyone that he would never accept a MMA fight.

If both are unconfident, then Fury is clearly the most unconfident one, hence why Dana never had to say he would not allow Fury to come in the UFC since Fury already refused any possible MMA fight.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Ngannou couldn't get anything related to boxing, but Jones can... Dana is terrorized by Ngannou being a strong guy out of the UFC and started to throw shade with anything lol. Why not make a fair contract with the man and maintain him on the company instead? Because losing to Jones and making your payment drop hugely doesn't help anyone.

Nothing about Nganoou’s demands were fair.

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

Hence why Fury said he won't fight Jones in MMA.

If Dana was so scared, Fury would not need to say anything and hurt his tough guy image by only accepting a boxing match.

But Fury already made it extremely clear for everyone that he would never accept a MMA fight.

If both are unconfident, then Fury is clearly the most unconfident one, hence why Dana never had to say he would not allow Fury to come in the UFC since Fury already refused any possible MMA fight.

Fury can act like the baddest man on the planet, but he knows he’s not outside of a boxing ring.

 

[Yellowcrab]

Fury can act like the baddest man on the planet, but he knows he’s not outside of a boxing ring.

I agree but to be fair, he chose another sport so nothing wrong about that.