Funny Ngannou quote about Jones

[don't ask]

Lol the whole interview is hilarious brada. He mentioned he got caught spying Rampage, and he said "being British, that's what we do, become a spy" <45>

Jones' career is one, long cry for help.

 

[jitzmonkey]

This topic was big awhile back with Conman going extra thick with his accent after the last loss to Poirier.

It's an insecurity thing, often subconscious. I dated a girl for a while who would turn full-blown British accent when she was nervous, and she definitely DID NOT want to nor like doing it. There's a scientific explanation for it, but basically people deeply ashamed or insecure about something (or just nervous) can automatically (subconsciously) "put on airs" to act in a way generally respected by society. The weirdest thing is that they can realize that they're doing it, even joke or complain about it, but often can't really get it to stop.
With Conman it was legit mental issue. With the Jones one, it seems too ridiculous, so I suspect he's doing it as a joke.

I don't know if "code-switching" is a regional or a universal term; but that's what we'd call it over here.

Your location shows Spain.
I'm guessing that if I were to spend a significant amount of time there that I'd develop a Castilian accent; but if I moved back to Mexico D.F. or NYC (with out large Dominican and Puerto Rican populations) that some locals might believe that I was speaking with affectation.

 

[Yep]

Change can be healthy.

 

[J180]

All this created because some false narrative now that has been created that Ngannou did not turn down the Jones fight, when he admitted he did.


Jones was understanding about it, but that does not change that Ngannou in fact did turn the fight down this last time.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

I don't know if "code-switching" is a regional or a universal term; but that's what we'd call it over here.

Your location shows Spain.
I'm guessing that if I were to spend a significant amount of time there that I'd develop a Castilian accent; but if I moved back to Mexico D.F. or NYC (with out large Dominican and Puerto Rican populations) that some locals might believe that I was speaking with affectation.

Gotchya. But your English would certainly NOT pick up a Spanish accent. If you learned *Spanish* here, your Spanish would have a Spanish (country) accent, depending or region (mine is Andalusian). Brits and Germans who move here never acquire Spanish accents in their spoken English (lol or their Spanish that they never learn!).
Alternately, Icelanders' English sounds British as opposed to American because that's their closest English-speaking influence.

The thing with Conman is that his immediate mental circumstances make a "sudden" switch in his native tongue's accent (like my American gf who would suddenly go British, and then revert once she calmed down). I never heard the expression "code-switching", but I dig it. When I worked in the US in the South (Georgia) I acquired a bit of a Southern Drawl, but it's never something suddenly pops up. It slowly came along, and then slowly left after I stopped living there. But I don't go full redneck randomly lol!

The code-switching thing seems to happen primarily within accents of your native tongue, but I'm curious to know why it seems to happen to some people in XXX circumstances but not others,

 

[HHJ]

Got to agree with Francis on this one. Jon doesn't seem like a well-balanced person, but that may be part of why he's so good.

Bro the fuckin media asked him about beating his wife,and he said next question and then started ramblinf about how christ is in his life and that young people will look up to him and that he's more relatable because of the mistakes he's made,and that when he's 40 he hoped to be the man he wants to be

WTF

 

[Casio Bioassay]

Bro the fuckin media asked him about beating his wife,and he said next question and then started ramblinf about how christ is in his life and that young people will look up to him and that he's more relatable because of the mistakes he's made,and that when he's 40 he hoped to be the man he wants to be

WTF

Not good as a person, but as a fighter. You cannot make a case for him being a good person.

 

[HHJ]

Not good as a person, but as a fighter. You cannot make a case for him being a good person.

People do that for him in here EVERY DAY

 

[jitzmonkey]

TLDR WARNING: Not MMA related at all. It's about languages and accents. You might want to scroll past.

Gotchya. But your English would certainly NOT pick up a Spanish accent. If you learned *Spanish* here, your Spanish would have a Spanish (country) accent, depending or region (mine is Andalusian). Brits and Germans who move here never acquire Spanish accents in their spoken English (lol or their Spanish that they never learn!).
Alternately, Icelanders' English sounds British as opposed to American because that's their closest English-speaking influence.

The thing with Conman is that his immediate mental circumstances make a "sudden" switch in his native tongue's accent (like my American gf who would suddenly go British, and then revert once she calmed down). I never heard the expression "code-switching", but I dig it. When I worked in the US in the South (Georgia) I acquired a bit of a Southern Drawl, but it's never something suddenly pops up. It slowly came along, and then slowly left after I stopped living there. But I don't go full redneck randomly lol!

The code-switching thing seems to happen primarily within accents of your native tongue, but I'm curious to know why it seems to happen to some people in XXX circumstances but not others,

Right, I grew up in Detroit (not the safest city)
We spoke very differently in the neighborhood than I did at my suburban prep school.

Re Spanish: I learned most of it when I was living in Mexico DF; and San Juan PR.
Because of that my accent is a combination of the two and I've been told that I don't speak Spanish like an American (possibly because I learned the majority of my Spanish by living in Spanish speaking countries/territories); but



Re Non-Brits' English: There's a particular accent that is considered to be more "proper/correct" that people are taught that's typically only used by other Brits as an affectation. You know, that whole "boh-ul uh wah-uh" thing.
No one would speak like that in a formal interview/setting.

It's the same here in the states: The foreigners who I know that learned English in NYC always speak "Manhattan" not BK, Queens, etc...
Either that, or they sound like they came from NorCal, Oregon, or Washington.

Re Conor's English (And the Irish users might have a clarification): I believe that there's a south Dublin (?) accent that is supposed to be considered more posh or something.
I imagine when he gets upset he remembers that before being a multi-millionaire that he was plumber (or whatever.)

Serious question: If you were speaking on the the phone with someone from the south (GA, AL, etc...) would a bit of an accent slip out at some point in the conversation?

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

TLDR WARNING: Not MMA related at all. It's about languages and accents. You might want to scroll past.



Right, I grew up in Detroit (not the safest city)
We spoke very differently in the neighborhood than I did at my suburban prep school.

Re Spanish: I learned most of it when I was living in Mexico DF; and San Juan PR.
Because of that my accent is a combination of the two and I've been told that I don't speak Spanish like an American (possibly because I learned the majority of my Spanish by living in Spanish speaking countries/territories); but



Re Non-Brits' English: There's a particular accent that is considered to be more "proper/correct" that people are taught that's typically only used by other Brits as an affectation. You know, that whole "boh-ul uh wah-uh" thing.
No one would speak like that in a formal interview/setting.

It's the same here in the states: The foreigners who I know that learned English in NYC always speak "Manhattan" not BK, Queens, etc...
Either that, or they sound like they came from NorCal, Oregon, or Washington.

Re Conor's English (And the Irish users might have a clarification): I believe that there's a south Dublin (?) accent that is supposed to be considered more posh or something.
I imagine when he gets upset he remembers that before being a multi-millionaire that he was plumber (or whatever.)

Serious question: If you were speaking on the the phone with someone from the south (GA, AL, etc...) would a bit of an accent slip out at some point in the conversation?

Lots of good (lol non MMA-related) points again.
Anecdotally, all the people I personally knew (ok, only 3) who "turned" British temporarily all did it under some kind of social duress, and all went full-posh aristocratic British English.
Crazy topic (as I think more about it). When I worked for awhile in the South, I did get a twang, that bled-over when I moved and gradually faded away. That being said, and to answer your question, when I visit the South or hang out with friends from there (like at my wedding or when they visit) I don't change my accent, but I DO use some words that I don't normally (anymore), like "y'all", which I only ever used with a bit of a twang. Meaning, I speak normally to Southeners accent-wise, but do appear more "twangy" because of some vocab. I bet people who lived in Australia for a long time and then move do a lot of this.


Haha, and just for some levity here's a funny semi-related story: Way back when I lost my virginity, I had been hanging around with lots of Brazilian friends at the time. So, for reasons that at the time made NO sense to me at all, when I finally nutted "for the first time" I, to my infinite and lasting shame, muttered some Portuguese gibberish, WITH accent, because in a sort of spur-of-the-moment I didn't know what to say, or how to express myself in this "new situation", so I guess I subconsciously went with sounding cool like how my friends at the time sounded. . . -_-. Needless to say it was awkward as fuck. The girl asked me "what did you say?", and I was like "Uh, nothing. Just "that was good" in Portuguese". . .even though I had no clue what nonsense I spouted. Not sure if that's the same thing as what we were discussing above with Conman, but it's the closest I've ever personally come to it.

 

[ferrisjso]

At one point Jon was a British aristocrat

If you've never sported a fake British accent you've never lived.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

At one point Jon was a British aristocrat

He's just a big Monty Python fan

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

All this created because some false narrative now that has been created that Ngannou did not turn down the Jones fight, when he admitted he did.


Jones was understanding about it, but that does not change that Ngannou in fact did turn the fight down this last time.

Time is cyclical, it seems


So I hope you kept that energy

 

[jitzmonkey]

Lots of good (lol non MMA-related) points again.
Anecdotally, all the people I personally knew (ok, only 3) who "turned" British temporarily all did it under some kind of social duress, and all went full-posh aristocratic British English.
Crazy topic (as I think more about it). When I worked for awhile in the South, I did get a twang, that bled-over when I moved and gradually faded away. That being said, and to answer your question, when I visit the South or hang out with friends from there (like at my wedding or when they visit) I don't change my accent, but I DO use some words that I don't normally (anymore), like "y'all", which I only ever used with a bit of a twang. Meaning, I speak normally to Southeners accent-wise, but do appear more "twangy" because of some vocab. I bet people who lived in Australia for a long time and then move do a lot of this.


Haha, and just for some levity here's a funny semi-related story: Way back when I lost my virginity, I had been hanging around with lots of Brazilian friends at the time. So, for reasons that at the time made NO sense to me at all, when I finally nutted "for the first time" I, to my infinite and lasting shame, muttered some Portuguese gibberish, WITH accent, because in a sort of spur-of-the-moment I didn't know what to say, or how to express myself in this "new situation", so I guess I subconsciously went with sounding cool like how my friends at the time sounded. . . -_-. Needless to say it was awkward as fuck. The girl asked me "what did you say?", and I was like "Uh, nothing. Just "that was good" in Portuguese". . .even though I had no clue what nonsense I spouted. Not sure if that's the same thing as what we were discussing above with Conman, but it's the closest I've ever personally come to it.

That’s some funny shit!

 

[Satchm0]

Steroids can really fuck with your mind. Take note shertards.

There is a guy at my work place that abused steroids for 20 years and just killed himself. Shot himself in the face, closed casket funeral.

 

[VAfan]

jones does have some of that tony ferguson vibe if you ask me, as if he's not just weird, he's firmly off in his own world. like he would walk by and kill someone and not even realize he did it.

 

[MMAcolyte]

At one point Jon was a British aristocrat

Lol I don't even think that's him

 

[UsernameLOL]

At one point Jon was a British aristocrat

I feel like you have to be this level of psycho to be as good as he is.