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  1. salta

    salta White Belt

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    its more stupid then funny but this guys teach the cross +right leg round house ,as a "basic " combination for begginers,why would you teach a beginner to lead with back hand and why teach them to hit with the right leg without loading it ,its not a cross,return to guard,then right round house (which is still not good for a guy just starting out) it really a corss +right round house

    Boxing Techniques and Training | Hertao

    i forgot to post the link first time sry guys,i edited it in.
     
  2. 888Shogun888

    888Shogun888 Blue Belt

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    is this from a vid? i am confused. what the hell are you talking about?
     
  3. Liquid Rockface

    Liquid Rockface Blue Belt

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    Riiiiiiiiight
     
  4. DrBdan

    DrBdan Something clever

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    I'm assuming there's supposed to be a video link. Anyway, cross/right kick isn't a very advanced combo. Usually you would see jab/cross/right kick. In fact that is one of the first combos I ever learned and seems to be a staple combo for the beginner classes at my gym. Not stupid or funny at all.
     
  5. salta

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    cross/right kick without returning to guard between them is stupid,and teaching a beginner to throw 2 strong strikes from the same side one after the other is not a good idea,especially if they dont return to guard between them
    you say ussually you would see a jab in front,well that jab alone would make a whole lot off difference,singe beginners should not start combos with the rear hand
    if they teach cross/right kick at your gym without returning to guard between them which is very different from just throwing right cross and then immediately right kick (as it is shown in the video) then you are training at a mc dojo.
     
  6. 888Shogun888

    888Shogun888 Blue Belt

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    why won't you use your god damn space bar!!!! there is supposed to be a space after punctuation such as a coma! gah i hate you!

    the vid has tards in jeans and t-shirts in a scary ass alley teaching you how to box......i don't think you should take it to seriously.
     
  7. DrBdan

    DrBdan Something clever

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    I just watched the video and I agree with 8888Shogun888. That video isn't funny because of what they are teaching, it's funny because they are two guys in jeans fighting in an alley.
     
  8. Nefron

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    Whats wrong with that?I do that all the time.The right cross is almost an arm punch,you wont turn your hips completly.Or you can start the punch and the kick at the same time.
     
  9. Hertao

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    Hey guys,

    The website is mine, and I made the video...a few comments:

    Salta - The right cross followed by a right Thai kick is not a basic combination I teach beginners, although it is a very simple combination that beginners are certainly capable of training. It's part of a training drill I use to get people comfortable combining punches and kicks. The Thai kick is pretty natural to throw after a cross. This is a very basic progression that I use to get beginners comfortable with sparring.

    I generally teach and train using the jab to set up the cross... Again, this is a video of a basic sparring progression that is one minute and forty seconds. It's not comprehensive.

    888Shogun888 - Glad you like the jeans and t-shirts! I teach self-defense. This video was shot in my driveway, in the French Quarter, as I was pressed for time. Would you prefer me to have worn a gi? I guess I could have worn workout shorts and been shirtless... Most people visiting a self-defense website don't have problems with people in every day clothing.

    DrBdan - I try not to take myself too seriously. Check out the video on the About Us page.

    Nefron - Exactly...the punch creates the opportunity for the kick. That's the point of the exercise.

    In the not too distant future I'll try to add video/content that you guys might approve of!

    David
     
  10. Tony Manifold

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    Orly? I learned it from a 2 time world kickboxing champion and he thinks it is a good Idea. having the right hand in their face disguises the right kick. A lot of the kickboxers through the 1-2 right kick combo while leaving the right hand in their face. It is a great combo.

    I am not sure why you wouldn't put the left in front but you could do it fine I think. I can't see the video from work, so I will caveat this with saying "assuming he is showing it how I think he is".
     
  11. Curtis Gibbs

    Curtis Gibbs Amateur Fighter

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    Huerta, do you teach any boxers or thai style hooks, or just arm punches?
     
  12. Hertao

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    Curtis,

    I'm not sure what you're asking. Of course I teach hooks if that's what you mean. For self defense though I tend to use the open hand to the head/face. I'm not sure what you mean by "arm punches".

    David
     
  13. Grey_Steel

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    So many are fooled by fancy packaging. If it looks professional it must be good. (we know this is not true).
    Also, many times things get taken out of context when you don't have all the information.
    Taking a single clip off of youtube for judgment many times has this result.

    EDIT:

    I wasn't able to watch the video at the time of my post. I just watched it now on a different computer. I see nothing wrong with the exercise and that is just how I interpret the video clip...as an exercise. Sort of a sensitivity drill working on putting techniques together a step at a time and then combining them in more of a flow but still going light....just getting movement down. I would imagine that (as was stated earlier in the clip) that you can go harder if you like and add safety gear. It isn't "fighting" so to speak, but more "sparring" lightly. A conversation which is "two people talking" or trading ideas.

    As for the round kick right off of a straight right or a cross...it makes sense to me. Using that punch to occupy your opponent (so he doesn't strike back) while utilizing the hip turn from the punch to launch the kick is fine. Bringing the fist back to guard is another way but also makes the movement choppy and predictable. Your opponent may start following your hand back thus jamming the kick and getting inside your punching range also.
    Everything has its place and it depends on your strategy at the time.
     
  14. Hertao

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    Grey_Steel,

    Thanks. That's exactly the point of the video...a simple exercise to get people comfortable sparring. The video demonstrates very light sparring with simple, basic techniques. It's definitely not fighting, and also not perfect. I put it on the site as a way for beginners to get comfortable throwing punches and kicks and getting used to someone else throwing punches and kicks at them.

    After they achieve a level of comfort with this drill they can and should up the intensity, add techniques, etc. You can see the video along with an explanation and more comprehensive sparring progression here:

    Hertao | Self Defense Training Methods

    The above page is where the video was meant to go. I added it to the boxing page due to a lack of footage on my part.

    David
     
  15. 888Shogun888

    888Shogun888 Blue Belt

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    to be honest I did not watch the entire video or really think about it being a self defense video. Your clothing choice and location makes a lot more sense now. My fault for jumping to conclusions. I was annoyed at how stupid the TS was and I suppose I unfairly took it out on you and your video.
     
  16. Hertao

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    No offense taken Shogun! There are lots of strange people in the MA world for sure...
     

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