Fun Fact! Report: Nearly Half Of Detroiters Can’t Read

[superpunch]

Its weird, conservatives view the problem as 70% cultural, 30% other (including money, racism, still catching up from segregation, etc. Libs view it as 70% other, and 30% cultural.

The main point is if the culture changes dramatically, most of the other 30% (other) changes with it for the better.

But when you have people thinking that the (other) parts are the most serious, it is a continual excuse for the culture to never change.

The other issues is, libs want to feel like they are doing something or can be part of the solution. Waiting for a culture to change does not make them feel good. Saying that racism is a huge factor and that more money is needed makes them feel good. You can't really do anything to make women close their legs and men to stick around. But you can protest and make your voice heard to raise taxes to get more money to a failing school system.

Because we all know denisha and daquan will stop fucking at the age of 15 and daquan will stick around if he sees that their local school system got 1 million more dollars to spend!!!

How can the problem be cultural if the same problem exists in all 200 countries on the planet? Are you saying that African American culture dominates all 200 countries? That's absurd.

 

[superpunch]

having 2 non-drug using parents in the house solves a lot of those problems

single moms have a hard time monitoring the education of their children when theyre working 2 jobs to support themselves and their kids
single mothers, their children and drug users live below the poverty line, a lot more than married households and non-drug users
the drug trade produces a lot of violent crimes, either between suppliers or users trying to get more

heres a fun statistic, people who
-finish high school
-get married before having babies
-get a job

live above the poverty line 96% of the time.

i dont even demand that much, i dont even care if people DO things, just DONT have babies out of wedlock and DONT use hard drugs, and we would see vast improvements in inner city and minority lives

There are 199 other countries on the planet and they all have the same problem. Are you saying that's the cause in all 200 countries?

If you can find high amounts drug use and single-parents in all 200 countries, is the problem really drug use and single-parents or are those symptoms?

 

[CableandThanos]

How can the problem be cultural if the same problem exists in all 200 countries on the planet? Are you saying that African American culture dominates all 200 countries? That's absurd.

What are you talking about? You are trying to compare third world countries with first world. People can be poor for various reasons but not be as violent or have as high a out of wedlock birth rate? If it is all a racial thing then why did blacks use to have comparable high school graduation rates, wedlock rates, out of wedlock birth rates, etc? This has been a last 40 to 50 year episode, before the 60s, in worse situations they had better outcomes and stats? why is that? Did the us get more racist in that time or did black people somehow become more black and whites just realized it?

 

[CableandThanos]

There are 199 other countries on the planet and they all have the same problem. Are you saying that's the cause in all 200 countries?

If you can find high amounts drug use and single-parents in all 200 countries, is the problem really drug use and single-parents or are those symptoms?

I may have misread your posts meaning, are you saying its because of racism or some genetic factor?

 

[Pwent]

There are 199 other countries on the planet and they all have the same problem. Are you saying that's the cause in all 200 countries?

If you can find high amounts drug use and single-parents in all 200 countries, is the problem really drug use and single-parents or are those symptoms?

People in different countries have different problems. Many of them don't have the same opportunities as Americans do

 

[superpunch]

What are you talking about? You are trying to compare third world countries with first world. People can be poor for various reasons but not be as violent or have as high a out of wedlock birth rate? If it is all a racial thing then why did blacks use to have comparable high school graduation rates, wedlock rates, out of wedlock birth rates, etc? This has been a last 40 to 50 year episode, before the 60s, in worse situations they had better outcomes and stats? why is that? Did the us get more racist in that time or did black people somehow become more black and whites just realized it?

The same problem exists throughout the first world as well. Every single first world country.

Also, go look at stats. You'll find that the African American poor educational outcomes and high crime rates were worse 50 years ago. Even when African Americans didn't have single-parent problems and drug problems like they do today, they still had horrible educational outcomes and horrible violent crime rates.

I never said it was a racial thing. I don't believe it is. I think it has some other cause that's prevalent in all 200 countries in the world. What is it? I don't know. But it can't be race. Racism is bullshit. We're all individuals.

 

[superpunch]

I may have misread your posts meaning, are you saying its because of racism or some genetic factor?

It can't be racism because black people have the same problems in black-majority countries. I don't think it's genetics. We're all individuals.

I have no idea what the cause is but it's not genetic (race is a social construct) and it's not cultural (vastly different cultures across all 200 countries).

 

[uppercutbus]

That CharlieBoy Youtube has the easiest money-making scheme in the world of youtube.

No effort. No need to edit anything.

Just drive around black neighborhoods on your way to and back from work and let reality do the work for you. Let the hits and views rack up.

Need more content? Turn on the dashcam again whilst going to the shops. This is him right now.

 

[CableandThanos]

It can't be racism because black people have the same problems in black-majority countries. I don't think it's genetics. We're all individuals.

I have no idea what the cause is but it's not genetic (race is a social construct) and it's not cultural (vastly different cultures across all 200 countries).

The same problem exists throughout the first world as well. Every single first world country.

Also, go look at stats. You'll find that the African American poor educational outcomes and high crime rates were worse 50 years ago. Even when African Americans didn't have single-parent problems and drug problems like they do today, they still had horrible educational outcomes and horrible violent crime rates.

I never said it was a racial thing. I don't believe it is. I think it has some other cause that's prevalent in all 200 countries in the world. What is it? I don't know. But it can't be race. Racism is bullshit. We're all individuals.

If you don't want to use the word culture, you still agree that if they took education more serious, stopped popping out kids, stayed with their family and stopped glorifying rap, that their overall outcomes would get better.

We talk about immigrants assimilating, blacks have basically refused to assimilate since civil rights. They have started their own (culture, ideals, system, whatever word you want to use) that white America has let slide as just part of who they are.

 

[superpunch]

If you don't want to use the word culture, you still agree that if they took education more serious, stopped popping out kids, stayed with their family and stopped glorifying rap, that their overall outcomes would get better.

There's no way to know if that's true or not because it's never happened. The closest to that you can get is looking at the other 199 countries in the world and it doesn't seem to make a difference. The best knowledge we have tells us that it wouldn't make a difference.

It may not even be possible for those pre-conditions to be achieved, let alone the desired outcomes of those pre-conditions. The best evidence that we have says that this is the case.

I don't think the problem is culture or how serious they take education or racism against them. I also don't think it's genetics or race.

 

[CableandThanos]

There's no way to know if that's true or not because it's never happened. The closest to that you can get is looking at the other 199 countries in the world and it doesn't seem to make a difference. The best knowledge we have tells us that it wouldn't make a difference.

It may not even be possible for those pre-conditions to be achieved, let alone the desired outcomes of those pre-conditions. The best evidence that we have says that this is the case.

I don't think the problem is culture or how serious they take education or racism against them. I also don't think it's genetics or race.

??? we did see the results, we saw them pre 60s? Were they equal to whites NO, but where they 100 times better than now, yes.

Can there be a drastic improvement in black society by doing the above things, yes, will it ever equal whites, who knows?

So you are basically saying blacks are screwed and will always be this way and never improve? If its not genetics and not racism and not cultural and not better decision making, than what?

Or are blacks just screwed?

 

[loyalyolayal]

Dindu reedin'

 

[GORETAURO]

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[SafeSpace]

Perhaps that's why they voted for hilary at a 97% rate with 33% extra repeat votes being taken in Wayne county.

Here I thought it was the cia or homeland security trying to rig the state...

 

[SafeSpace]

Guess whose stomping grounds these were?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-what-she-might-do-as-secretary-of-education/

In Detroit, parents of school-age children have plenty of choices, thanks to the nation’s largest urban network of charter schools.

What remains in short supply is quality.

In Brightmoor, the only high school left is Detroit Community Schools, a charter boasting more than a decade of abysmal test scores and, until recently, a superintendent who earned $130,000 a year despite a dearth of educational experience or credentials.

On the west side, another charter school, Hope Academy, has been serving the community around Grand River and Livernois for 20 years. Its test scores have been among the lowest in the state throughout those two decades; in 2013 the school ranked in the first percentile, the absolute bottom for academic performance. Two years later, its charter was renewed.

Or if you live downtown, you could try Woodward Academy, a charter that has limped along near the bottom of school achievement since 1998, while its operator has been allowed to expand into other communities.

For students enrolled in schools of choice — that is, schools in nearby districts who have opened their doors to children who live outside district boundaries — it’s not much better. Kids who depend on Detroit’s problematic public transit are too far away from the state’s top-performing school districts — and most of those districts don’t participate in the schools of choice program, anyway.

This deeply dysfunctional educational landscape — where failure is rewarded with opportunities for expansion and “choice” means the opposite for tens of thousands of children — is no accident. It was created by an ideological lobby that has zealously championed free-market education reform for decades, with little regard for the outcome.

And at the center of that lobby is Betsy DeVos, the west Michigan advocate whose family has contributed millions of dollars to the cause of school choice and unregulated charter expansion throughout Michigan.

Charter schools generally out perform regular public schools... the issue in detroit is culture (or lack thereof, like chiraq).

 

[HomerThompson]

Charter schools generally out perform regular public schools... the issue in detroit is culture (or lack thereof, like chiraq).

This is untrue, particularly in Detroit. Maybe actually read up on it instead of making baseless claims.

 

[Gutter Chris]

This is untrue, particularly in Detroit. Maybe actually read up on it instead of making baseless claims.

Its a racket and just one more way that shady folks steal tax dollars in Detroit

 

[Badger67]

More money in their schools will surely solve the problem.

How is it that China can spend $5/ student per year and achieve superior educational outcomes to Detroit which spends $20k/ student per year? What exactly is China doing differently that Detroit can learn from?

Well, they do have stronger family units.

 

[Badger67]

Why would you be shocked by California being so orange? California doesn't have a white majority. California is a majority-minority.

The illegals and Mexican immigrants have pulled literacy rates and education scores down to some of the lowest in the nation.

I just expected it to be more so along the average rather than top 3 worst.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I wonder if people in Detroit go on and on about how shitty and lost Europe is, like most far-right Shertards say.

Probably not. Even they aren't that stupid.