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FREESTYLE vs FOLKSTYLE wrestling in UFC...why freestyle DOMINATES in UFC AND wrestling competition

tekkenfan said:
leg riding wrestling style i havent really worked much i understand it but its something i really need to get with some guys to work more with i believe the wrestling style of back control is superior to bjjs back control in terms of body control

i prefer to take guys down and pas to mount to attack with gnp hit either a armlock or arm triangle from the mount if they turn to far then thats when ill set up my back control to get a rnc
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Gotcha...bro, i swear...get really good at the fig4 body lock (illegal in wrestling nowadays)

Anytime I get a guy turtling in front of me I grab the near wrist or better start a 1/2 nelson hop on his back and dig in a figure4 body ride and then start working on the Full Nelson...

Quite often all you have to do is put your forearm across the back of his head your other arm under his armpit get a Gable grip and as long as you have the opposite leg figure 4ed you can twist him into a knot

Its a MONSTER ride series...
 
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I thought we were all in agreement that wrestling was cancelled after the Askren fiasco.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
You argue like a petulant child, dude. It's pathetic to see your straw man bullshit.

Why the fuck would I fear wrestlers and their lack of submission defense? Get gud, dork.
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It's okay

let it all out

you'll feel better after you're done

but seriously I don't know a single Shodan that loses his cool as hardcore as you

The IJF ruined judos value as a martial art...

i am just the one that called it out

# IJF fear of wrestling

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-wrestling-style-leg-holds-takedowns.3991867/
 
ayyyyyyyy said:
I thought we were all in agreement that wrestling was cancelled after the Askren fiasco.
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No wrestling is an above average martial art and a good base for MMA it's just not the best base for MMA and freestyle is the best style of wrestling for MMA and the sport of wrestling

Got that?
 
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tekkenfan said:
and hes a top wrestling coach and had one of the very first mma gyms in america the way you carry yourself is that of a 15 yearold who gets bullied in school and goes online to try to get his manhood back i may disagree with somethings he says but he always shows class something you do not ....
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He wrestled for one year, mate. Never coached any winners, no D1 guys, nothing.

Read his threads. No one agrees with him or thinks his arguments are compelling. Maybe you're just as simple as he is.

The rest of your post is laughable projection.

@D 1 Wrestler lol guerrilla has a follower lol, two idiot peas in a dumbass pod.
 
-guerilla- said:
It's okay

let it all out

you'll feel better after you're done

but seriously I don't know a single Shodan that loses his cool as hardcore as you

The IJF ruined judos value as a martial art...

i am just the one that called it out

# IJF fear of wrestling

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-wrestling-style-leg-holds-takedowns.3991867/
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I competed long before morote was banned in judo, and never lost to wrestlers.

If you actually trained competition judo, you'd know two or three dozen ways to counter common wrestling takedowns.

Even no-gi judo counters pure wrestling well. Just look at Karo, Ronda, or Fedor.
 
-guerilla- said:
Gi dependant techniques have ruined many grappling sports

Wrestlings anatomical grips are far superior for MMA

dead on bro
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thats why i dont use any grips when passing guard in the gi i do like the gi for one thing it really helps to check your base making sure to have great balance at all times letting them get a good deep collar sleeve grip with de la riva/spider ect to try and push pull em around i feel that greatly helps ones balance but i dont really play much with grips i just allow my opponents to sue them cause way i see it if i wont have these grips in competition fights or street fights why base a game around it?


the reason leg locks are big atm is cause gi guys really got into no gi last few years and they could not pass guard due to being so use to torreando passes ect with the pants and now that they dont have that leverage they give up lol instead of solving the issue. i use to have a very loose game as a blue early purple about a decade ago mostly played off my back and realized this wont ever work in fighting so why am i doing it? i had more success with it vs people but i knew it would only get me gym taps and had to go out of my comfort zone and fight a more realistic style
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
He wrestled for one year, mate. Never coached any winners, no D1 guys, nothing.

Read his threads. No one agrees with him or thinks his arguments are compelling. Maybe you're just as simple as he is.

The rest of your post is laughable projection.

@D 1 Wrestler lol guerrilla has a follower lol, two idiot peas in a dumbass pod.
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he wrestled folkstyle 1 year thats nit picking and you know it hes wrestled freestyle internationally all over the world and coached high school for many years hes been doing this before i was born

you are just upset that he not only knows more than you but would also slam you on your head and you would not be able to do a single thing to stop it...
 
tekkenfan said:
he wrestled folkstyle 1 year thats nit picking and you know it hes wrestled freestyle internationally all over the world and coached high school for many years hes been doing this before i was born

you are just upset that he not only knows more than you but would also slam you on your head and you would not be able to do a single thing to stop it...
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My DaD wOuLd BeAt Up YoUr DaD!!!1!1!

Great comeback, squirt. Gavin is too old and too fat to do anything about anything, mate.

As far as knowing more than me, he said Israel Adesanya is a freestyle wrestler. If that's knowledge then I don't want it, since Israel has never completed a takedown in his UFC career.
 
-guerilla- said:
Gotcha...bro, i swear...get really good at the fig4 body lock (illegal in wrestling nowadays)

Anytime I get a guy turtling in front of me I grab the near wrist or better start a 1/2 nelson hop on his back and dig in a figure4 body ride and then start working on the Full Nelson...

Quite often all you have to do is put your forearm across the back of his head your other arm under his armpit get a Gable grip and as long as you have the opposite leg figure 4ed you can twist him into a knot

Its a MONSTER ride series...
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very similar to the khabib ride i study maia askren and khabiba dn colby religiously even phil davis whos the first guy i see use cradles well in mam to stopping the wall walks not sure if he has great success due to having super long arms or if its just that dominant
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
My DaD wOuLd BeAt Up YoUr DaD!!!1!1!

Great comeback, squirt. Gavin is too old and too fat to do anything about anything, mate.

As far as knowing more than me, he said Israel Adesanya is a freestyle wrestler. If that's knowledge then I don't want it, since Israel has never completed a takedown in his UFC career.
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hes obviously trolling you i find it funny you are trying to call others children yet you act like a child born in 2003 going around upset trying to tell others that im siding with him lol how lame and childish is that id def put my money on gavin in anything vs you combat wise his resume speaks for itself...
 
tekkenfan said:
hes obviously trolling you i find it funny you are trying to call others children yet you act like a child born in 2003 going around upset trying to tell others that im siding with him lol how lame and childish is that id def put my money on gavin in anything vs you combat wise his resume speaks for itself...
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He's not trolling, it's cte.

His resume is shit. Never won nuthin', never trained anyone who won either. He thinks Israel Adesanya is a striker who uses freestyle takedowns, despite not completing a single takedown.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
He's not trolling, it's cte.

His resume is shit. Never won nuthin', never trained anyone who won either. He thinks Israel Adesanya is a striker who uses freestyle takedowns, despite not completing a single takedown.
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He is a troll and so you are dude
 
tekkenfan said:
hes obviously trolling you i find it funny you are trying to call others children yet you act like a child born in 2003 going around upset trying to tell others that im siding with him lol how lame and childish is that id def put my money on gavin in anything vs you combat wise his resume speaks for itself...
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we have debated plenty of issues, its not like were buddies agreeing on everything

dont worry about guys who spent thousands of dollars on their pedigree...[I WILL CUT YOU]
hes just angry with wrestling because it free and can destroy his style

let him vent...its for the best [dont want him beating his dog]
 
Foxflechette57 said:
He is a troll and so you are dude
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yeah..im the only troll in the world who uses his real name plus verifiable background in addition to links from the wall street journal and Wikipedia to bolster my points

here...do some recon

"In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain"

KEY WORDS:
digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

whos the troll now??

now say something about wrestling in MMA of go troll somewhere else you dirty filthy little troll
 
-guerilla- said:
we have debated plenty of issues, its not like were buddies agreeing on everything

dont worry about guys who spent thousands of dollars on their pedigree...[I WILL CUT YOU]
hes just angry with wrestling because it free and can destroy his style

let him vent...its for the best [dont want him beating his dog]
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Sounds like projection, mate. Back to the ignore list with you, I don't have time for fat old men who think Israel Adesanya is a freestyle takedown artist.

And again, I competed well well before 2008, never lost to wrestlers.


But hey, you keep on dreaming about your fantasy world of freestyle taking over.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Sounds like projection, mate. Back to the ignore list with you, I don't have time for fat old men who think Israel Adesanya is a freestyle takedown artist.

And again, I competed well well before 2008, never lost to wrestlers.


But hey, you keep on dreaming about your fantasy world of freestyle taking over.
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# thinks adesanya has never trained with wrestlers

# thinks folkstyle exists in new Zealand

I also said cro cop was a freestyle wrestler....

lots of trolls LOST IT ON THAT ONE until i listed all of his wrestling coaches who were ....GUESS WHAT...FREESTYLE WRESTLERS

# SHUTDOWN
 
-guerilla- said:
# thinks adesanya has never trained with wrestlers

# thinks folkstyle exists in new Zealand

I also said cro cop was a freestyle wrestler....

lots of trolls LOST IT ON THAT ONE until i listed all of his wrestling coaches who were ....GUESS WHAT...FREESTYLE WRESTLERS

# SHUTDOWN
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Ok boomer
 
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