FREESTYLE vs FOLKSTYLE wrestling in UFC...why freestyle DOMINATES in UFC AND wrestling competition

[-guerilla-]

Freestyle dominates international competition

Once in a while a great athlete emerges from the American canstyle who can easily adopt freestyle into his game and provide some competition

Honestly thats the most frustrating part in that we all know that America has the athletes and the infrastructure to dominate the sport just like we used to prior to the Soviet Union

If athletes like Snyder and Burroughs practiced International wrestling in well FUNDED PUBLIC facilities from birth wrestling would be enshrined in the Olympics forever because we would have multiple American champions in every cycle and big American advertisers would be showering the Sport with money

The Soviet blocks Sports infrastructure investment program outpaced us by putting training centers all over its vast Empire that allowed poor kids and rich kids to have equal access to Olympic sports

We build all kinds of free sports infrastructure for basketball football soccer however martial arts and Combat Sports are largely left to the Private Industry who has a profit motive and a legal liability protocol

Folk style wrestling dominates American MMA not because it's the best style but because it's the last publicly-funded combat sport in America

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-real-reason-wrestlers-dominate-the-ufc-american-mma.3959991/

 

[rmongler]

Well well well...

I didn't think you could stay away

And once again we're focused on me and NOT International wrestling

Quite often I think it more mature to let these peanuts Slide by and focus on an intelligent debate with the few responders of that ilk however in your case I have to make an exception as your wriggling is simply too delectable

I must admonish you for failing to do your recon as I am an enormously successful folk style coach

The strip mall karate club model and typical American corporate martial arts message has weighed heavily on your psychosis

So of course as the standard strategy goes you will interrogate me and then accuse me of bragging when I detail my background

I inherited a folk style team that had literally come in dead last in the district and close to dead last in the state for many years

under my expert tutelage aggressive coaching Style and protocol to never coach from the sidelines but wrestle daily with the athletes I was able to cultivate a wrestling team that came in somewhere in the middle of the pack by the time I was offered a position too good to pass up out of state and relinquish my team

the mr. Miyagi fantasy that a coach can be so good that they can take a weakling and turn them into a champion is a fantasy of the most childish mind

A professional veteran coach like me with many decades in Combat Sports can confirm that coaches do not create character they reveal it

coaches do not create environments they encourage them

coaches do not make athletes they show them the path to success

Athletes are born...

coaches are cultivators

the cultivation mechanism...

like an expert gardener or animal trainer

Coaches are not deities that create champions from clay

Coaches are hard-working professionals that put in long hours for low pay and scant Rewards

One of the few things you get from coaching is the solemn Pride that you did a good job when your team goes from dead last to the middle of the pack in the district and breaks all the records in school history for the sport during your tenure

that is the measure of success by any rational Minds criteria

My team was in a region that had little or no respect for wrestling and it received little or no funding so we did not have the infrastructure to be as successful as wrestling Powerhouse States

If any of my athletes wanted to wrestle in college they would have to move far away

I myself tried to start a wrestling team at my local University
(one of the largest in the nation) however the interest was negligible and the few people who showed
(when they found out I was a MMA coach)
lost all interest in wrestling

Despite doing everything I could I could not promote the sport of wrestling as I had a successful Mixed Martial Arts Club in addition to my high school wrestling team

I would run my high school wrestling practice from 3:30 to 5:30 go home change my gear and then head down to the community center where I would run my MMA Club from 6:30 to 8:30

I did this for decades while people like you were paying $100 an hour to learn Judo from a Brazilian

Are there any other questions you want to ask me...??

if so send them in a private message and leave my threads to focus on the sport of wrestling

... you see,

I'll never stop trying to promote the sport of wrestling

I actually love folk style wrestling but I am wise enough to recognize that its existence has been detrimental for the sports future

#gottentoo

 

[-guerilla-]

#gottentoo

Man that's golden

A confirmed sherdamsel admitting to a trolling agenda

don't know the difference between a suplex and a souffle do you??

# hater

Now say something about wrestling

 

[rmongler]

Man that's golden

A confirmed sherdamsel admitting to a trolling agenda

don't know the difference between a suplex and a souffle do you??

# hater

Now say something about wrestling

'I make threads to be inflamatory'
later
'omg dont troll me daddy, my fragile ego can only take so much!'

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

 

[-guerilla-]

'I make threads to be inflamatory'
later
'omg dont troll me daddy, my fragile ego can only take so much!'

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

I love your replies laced with homoerotic gender dis psychoanalytical discount interrogation psychobabble

admittedly I do make threads with an inflammatory diction in order to generate a visceral response from the reader however in utilizing your real name and real verifiable background you are disqualified from troll status

You see in order to be a certified Internet troll one must remain anonymous and instigate with the sole purpose of causing strife

With the tiniest amount of Recon you'll find that my threads while inflammatory in nature are primarily geared at education and stay deeply and firmly on topic with great effort on my part since we have so many nasty little trolls always digging at the supporting structure of my threads

Such is par for the course

when you have an unpopular message that resonates so strongly due to its crushing validity you are bound to crush some butts but that is the price I'm willing to pay to get the truth out

Now say something about wrestling or hit the road

# sherdamsel

 

[rmongler]

I love your replies laced with homoerotic gender dis psychoanalytical discount interrogation psychobabble

admittedly I do make threads with an inflammatory diction in order to generate a visceral response from the reader however in utilizing your real name and real verifiable background you are disqualified from troll status

You see in order to be a certified Internet troll one must remain anonymous and instigate with the sole purpose of causing strife

With the tiniest amount of Recon you'll find that my threads while inflammatory in nature are primarily geared at education and stay deeply and firmly on topic with great effort on my part since we have so many nasty little trolls always digging at the supporting structure of my threads

Such is par for the course

when you have an unpopular message that resonates so strongly due to its crushing validity you are bound to crush some butts but that is the price I'm willing to pay to get the truth out

Now say something about wrestling or hit the road

# sherdamsel

Poke a little shiv of truth in the right place, and spectacular torrents of verbal diarrhea issue forth.

 

[-guerilla-]

Poke a little shiv of truth in the right place, and spectacular torrents of verbal diarrhea issue forth.

you definitely strike me as the kind of guy that is comfortable anonymously poking men with your tiny little "shiv" online, I bet you're real polite in person...

don't you have anything to say about wrestling?

Anything at all...

# poke

 

[rmongler]

you definitely strike me as the kind of guy that is comfortable anonymously poking men with your tiny little "shiv" online, I bet you're real polite in person...

don't you have anything to say about wrestling?

Anything at all...

# poke

Everything that can be said has already been said; you just have a +5 immunity save vs logic.

 

[-guerilla-]

Everything that can be said has already been said; you just have a +5 immunity save vs logic.

Pick your 2 favorite lines of logic that suggest the folkstyle wrestling ruleset is better for MMA and wrestling

Or are you still focused on me...personally?

Bro, get some sleep

# obsession

 

[-guerilla-]

As I said FREESTYLE is better for MMA because it has better takedowns

here khabib proves me correct against one of the best folkstyle wrestlers in MMA

 

[-guerilla-]

Everything that can be said has already been said; you just have a +5 immunity save vs logic.

omg was that RPG reference on a cagefighting forum??

 

[-guerilla-]

Lol at linking a successful coach when you have not even a single college wrestler developed just stop

More proof of freestyle superiority in MMA

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

More proof of freestyle superiority in MMA

Khabib has not a single freestyle wrestling accomplishment to his name

#cartoon coach

 

[BodybagJohnny**]

I don't understand why TS pretends that folkstyle wrestlers aren't good at takedowns. The most common takedown I see in MMA is the blast double, which any folkstylist has done hundred of thousands of times in training.

 

[-guerilla-]

I don't understand why TS pretends that folkstyle wrestlers aren't good at takedowns. The most common takedown I see in MMA is the blast double, which any folkstylist has done hundred of thousands of times in training.

I never said folkstyle wrestlers were poor at takedowns!

I said FREESTYLE wrestlers were BETTER at them because they have less restrictive rules as folkstyle is a wrestling system taken from freestyle and optimized for children's safety

 

[-guerilla-]

Khabib has not a single freestyle wrestling accomplishment to his name

#cartoon coach

RIGHT

so because Khabib never competed in freestyle wrestling he is not a "legitimate" freestyle wrestler

hence

Bruce Lee, Jigoro Kano are NOT legitimate martial artists while Jean Claude is....???

# copycat hashtag
# fanboy logic
# strip mall forged martial arts skills
# pawn shop ring

 

[-guerilla-]

#SCHOOL BELL RINGS#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel_Trujillo
"Trujillo attended Riverside High School in Durham, North Carolina where he competed in wrestling. In 2002, he won the individual NCHSAA 4A state wrestling championship at 145lbs defeating Jeffrey Tharington of Winston-Salem's Mt. Tabor high school in the finals. Along with that, he helped his team win the NCHSAA 4A individual team tournament championship. Trujillo then continued his career at the collegiate level for William Penn University where he was a four-time NAIA All-American"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov
"As is common with many children in Dagestan, he began wrestling from an early age: he started at the age of eight under the tutelage of his father Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov.[21] A decorated athlete and a veteran of the Army, his father had also wrestled from an early age, before undergoing training in judo and sambo in the military.[22] "

So when a NCHSAA 4A individual team tournament champion in folkstyle meets a freestyle wrestler who wasn't good enough to compete in Russia


#SCHOOL BELL RINGS#

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

RIGHT

so because Khabib never competed in freestyle wrestling he is not a "legitimate" freestyle wrestler

hence

Bruce Lee, Jigoro Kano are NOT legitimate martial artists while Jean Claude is....???

# copycat hashtag
# fanboy logic
# strip mall forged martial arts skills
# pawn shop ring

Brock probably did the same amount of freestyle in the summer like khabib did outside of sambo. Yet khabib is a freestyle wrestler and brock is not?

#white trash logic
#low iq
#35k/year intelligence

 

[-guerilla-]

Brock probably did the same amount of freestyle in the summer like khabib did outside of sambo. Yet khabib is a freestyle wrestler and brock is not?

#white trash logic
#low iq
#35k/year intelligence

Have the the courage to venture out of Brock's jock there's a whole world out there

Folkstyle flop Brock the Golden Gopher could not even compete at the Pan American games

Meanwhile khabib was steeped in Freestyle Wrestling since early childhood

As an alleged wrestler you know freestyle has a much wider array of throws slams and takedowns

99% of Sherdog doesn't know the difference between folkstyle freestyle and Greco-Roman

it's time for you to own up and admit who has the better takedown skills

# copycat hashtag
# folkie flop
# crushed
# pawnshop ring

It's obvious your Martial Arts mentality has been forged by the strip mall and the American school system

Now bump my thread boi

 

[-guerilla-]

Brock probably did the same amount of freestyle in the summer like khabib did outside of sambo. Yet khabib is a freestyle wrestler and brock is not?

#white trash logic
#low iq
#35k/year intelligence

Broc "the folkstyle flop" IS a freestyle wrestler [if he ever trained in the style]

just a REALLY CRAPPY one...

Meanwhile Khabib is ALSO a FREESTYLE wrestler because his father is a master of sport in the style and trained his son from birth

THAT MEANS HES A REALLY GOOD ONE!!!

"Abdulmanap Magomedovich, is a master of sports of the USSR in freestyle wrestling. He has the title of Honored Coach of Russia.

Abdulmanap Magomedovich started his sports career with free-style wrestling in Ukraine. Serving in the army was carried away by judo and sambo. From achievements, victory in the championship of Ukraine in judo and sambo.

He trained with well-known trainers, such as Peter Butriy, honored coach of the USSR, in the national team from Vladimir Nevzorov, triumphant in the 1976 Olympics in judo in Montreal"

"As is common with many children in Dagestan, he began wrestling from an early age: he started at the age of eight under the tutelage of his father Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov.[21] A decorated athlete and a veteran of the Army, his father had also wrestled from an early age, before undergoing training in judo and sambo in the military.[22] Khabib's training as a child included wrestling a bear when he was nine years old, in 1997"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov

http://khabib.com/en/about_father/

# reading is fundamental