Freddie Lee vs. Sherdoggers: He's accepting challenges

[chubbman]

That was a weird video. I don't think you can really compare Freddie Lee to that though or even some nutcase like Charlie Zelenoff. The guy trains. He runs a business. He takes Martial Arts seriously.

Now where he gets weird is when he expresses all of this hatred for MMA. He says that it is a corruption of Martial Arts. He doesn't think they should call it Martial Arts. He even refuses to call it Mixed Martial Arts and calls it cage fighting. He doesn't like the grappling especially the ground and pound which he considers to be too violent and says that MMA fighters are damaging their bodies which is not consistent with real Martial Arts where you train only for self-defense. He also got his channel shut down for making homophobic remarks comparing MMA to gay sex. He made some weird videos that included rap songs about how MMA sucks and videos killing bugs and breaking boards and comparing them to MMA fighters. He has called numerous MMA fighters scrubs including Anderson Silva and expresses his opinion on who he considers a real Martial Artist while holding extremely high standards for who fits that category and going on rants about well-known Martial Artists who he says don't qualify. So he is weird although I think a lot of what he says is meant to be humorous.

For a long time he said he only trains for self-defense and doesn't accept challenges (several Youtubers challenged him) but recently he made a video saying he would fight Conor McGregor for the right to be called Bruce Lee in the modern era. Now he says he will fight anyone who thinks he is not good at fighting. I think McGregor is too much for him but could anyone on Sherdog take him? This isn't some skinny, untrained punk like Charlie Zelenoff who is a coward with no skills. This is a legitimate Kung Fu master who works out, lifts weights, trains and teaches Martial Arts. The question is where is he really at? What does his fighting skill look like when he isn't "safe sparring" and goes all out? I have to admit that I find the idea of watching a fight of the nature described in his challenge intriguing.

I bet dirty holt would whoop his arse

 

[Robocok]

Yeah..I don't really want to see this happen again:



It's funny for a second, but ultimately sad. Just let the guy talk. Why do you need to prove anything to him? Any real fighter is confident enough in their skills that they wouldn't even waste time on this nonsense. Picking on nutjobs is not a good look for anybody.

It's a little sad, but it's better to give him the wake up call that his chi thing is ineffective than to let him keep thinking he's actually good. Otherwise, he might try to teach that garbage to someone else or use it in a real fight where he could take serious damage.

 

[Reyesnuthugr]

There's a sherdogger ( @kenpeters8 I believe) in the striking forum that claims that he went to this guy's school and Freddie Lee challenged him to demonstrate his MT against him with all his students watching and that he would block it, so he step-in kneed him once to the ribs, dropping him, and then just walked out the door. I'm too lazy to find that thread, it was like 3 years ago when I saw it, but it was definitely the same Freddie Lee.

 

[5crew]

This should be posted in the heavies so all the 200lbs fat dudes, that never trained in their entire life whom believe they will crush all FW and below fighters because they are manlets, would sign up.

Nah.. they won't. They just talk.
I mean they just type.

 

[KnightTemplar]

JUST BLEEEEEEED!!!!

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for his Skull Throne!

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Freddie Lee has never been the same since Kurt Sloan knocked that out at the Muay Boran fight at the ancient temple.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

This thread has the distinct smell of Bellator and Kimbo Slice.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

This thread has the distinct smell of Bellator and Kimbo Slice.

All day.

 

[Vil7]

Zer I got $100 on you! You would totally measure more dicks then him. Zer for the win!

His hands are as smooth as silk.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

Freddie Lee for those who don't know is the Kung Fu master who hates MMA. For years he has criticized MMA and gotten a lot of negative attention including challenges from Youtubers. Now he says that he is open to a fight with no rules against any one who thinks he sucks at fighting. Are there any takers? If you want to fight Freddie Lee you should write him on his Youtube channel and make a video response.

My other thread on Freddie Lee's challenge to Conor McGregor got wastelanded. Hopefully this one has more success.

Let's get him and Charlie Z signed to a fight right away!

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

There's a sherdogger ( @kenpeters8 I believe) in the striking forum that claims that he went to this guy's school and Freddie Lee challenged him to demonstrate his MT against him with all his students watching and that he would block it, so he step-in kneed him once to the ribs, dropping him, and then just walked out the door. I'm too lazy to find that thread, it was like 3 years ago when I saw it, but it was definitely the same Freddie Lee.

Sounds interesting. We need to get a Sherdogger to fight him on video and have it uploaded to Youtube.

Anyone can make stuff up on the internet and even if it did happen Freddie could deny it. But with video we'll see what he is really made of.

This should be posted in the heavies so all the 200lbs fat dudes, that never trained in their entire life whom believe they will crush all FW and below fighters because they are manlets, would sign up.

Nah.. they won't. They just talk.
I mean they just type.

My other thread got put in the Wasteland even though it was about Freddie Lee vs. a UFC fighter so I put this in Mayberry hoping it would stay there.

 

[weed]

I know. My comment was regarding @Zer 's video too. I just couldn't quote it for some reason - it disappeared so I quoted yo ratchet ass.

don't front babygirl. you ain't slick.

 

[Vil7]

Where is that idiot located?

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

Where is that idiot located?

Chicago.

 

[#YOLO]

don't front babygirl. you ain't slick.

Did you run out of your script or something? I repeat, for some reason my browser didn't show Zer's video so I quoted the next best thing - your comment to it. My comment was addressed to him, not to you.

Helax, is normal

 

[weed]

Did you run out of your script or something? I repeat, for some reason my browser didn't show Zer's video so I quoted the next best thing - your comment to it. My comment was addressed to him, not to you.

Helax, is normal

take your own advice dubs, I was just messing around!

 

[#YOLO]

take your own advice dubs, I was just messing around!

 

[MysticNinjaJay]

I think that anyone who is serious about fighting Freddie Lee shouldn't underestimate this guy. I'm sure that some Sherdoggers could beat him but this isn't Charlie Zelenoff. He trains seriously. Based on what I've found out from his videos Freddie Lee is about 34 years old, 5'5" and about 145 pounds at about 8-9% body fat. He has also been training Martial Arts since he was a teenager. So by MMA standards we're talking a natural Featherweight who is still in his physical prime and in exceptional athletic condition. How strong is he?



In his latest video he is doing some strength training. On the bench press we see him lift 255 pounds for 6 reps. According to Strengthlevel.com that would put him in the 96th percentile for a man his size with an estimated one-rep maximum of 296 pounds, an elite strength level by their calculations.

In terms of fighting skill that is where things get questionable. He doesn't do full-contact sparring. He doesn't do ground fighting. He trains with modern equipment and some traditional equipment. People are laughing at his safe sparring videos.



Obviously this isn't the best way to train but I see some explosive and athletic movements being performed by him and his sparring partner. We need to see this guy go all out in a no-holds barred challenge match. I think anyone near his fitness level and his size or bigger that trains at an MMA gym could beat him. The question is who will do it? If you are game contact him and make a video response.

 

[Bebop]

Can I challenge him to a dick measuring contest instead?

first thought this said "dick sucking contest"

 

[Hagelslag2]

In terms of fighting skill that is where things get questionable. He doesn't do full-contact sparring. He doesn't do ground fighting. He trains with modern equipment and some traditional equipment. People are laughing at his safe sparring videos.



Obviously this isn't the best way to train but I see some explosive and athletic movements being performed by him and his sparring partner. We need to see this guy go all out in a no-holds barred challenge match. I think anyone near his fitness level and his size or bigger that trains at an MMA gym could beat him. The question is who will do it? If you are game contact him and make a video response.

I looked up this video as well. I think most people around his size who have trained in kickboxing or Muay Thai and preferably have a few matches would chew this man up. If it is a no rules fight and he really doesn't have a ground game against a guy his size who trains MMA/BJJ, it would suck to be Freddie Lee.