Francis Ngannou signs with PFL, debut expected in 2024

[MrCoffee]

2024... Lots of time to forget.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Oh damn. You got me. I am a paid UFC poster and this is my side gig. Hope you won't treat me any different now that I am exposed.

If you aren't getting paid to have UFC ballsack on your breath, constantly, then you got a raw fucking deal...

Damn... now I hope you are getting paid because that taste in your mouth.... it might be there awhile.

 

[TrueFightFan]

If Ngannou loses PFL is fucked

No, you fucking moron, the PFL can boast that it has better talent than the UFC. If a PFL guy kicks Ngannou's ass, then what does that say about the talent in the UFC? All puff pieces.

 

[Dandy Chiggins]

If you aren't getting paid to have UFC ballsack on your breath, constantly, then you got a raw fucking deal...

Damn... now I hope you are getting paid because that taste in your mouth.... it might be there awhile.

I will be honest with you and hope that you don't take this to heart. I will tell you like it really is because I am not known to sugar coat things. I truly believe that people should respect each other and be absolutely fair in ever regard. That's why I think it's obligatory for me to tell you that UFC ballsack in my mouth was pleasant compared to your mother's pussy. Your mom's pussy was so foul that I gave up sex for a whole month. I still have nightmares about it and I don't know if I will ever approach one again.

 

[TrueFightFan]

I will be honest with you and hope that you don't take this to heart. I will tell you like it really is because I am not known to sugar coat things. I truly believe that people should respect each other and be absolutely fair in ever regard. That's why I think it's obligatory for me to tell you that UFC ballsack in my mouth was pleasant compared to your mother's pussy. Your mom's pussy was so foul that I gave up sex for a whole month. I still have nightmares about it and I don't know if I will ever approach one again.

That's fair...

At least I got you to admit that it was the tinge of UFC ballsack on your breath. You can justify it all you want and to the extent that it makes you feel better about being a sellout, but I will thank my mother for helping you deal with your feelings.

 

[TrueFightFan]

"(all going according to plan). So still kinda in the limbo phase for another while."

I hope this is sarcasm. Ngannou is nearly 37, has not fought in 1 1/2 years, and has signed with a fledgling company (started in 2018) with 16 unknown fighters on the HW roster.

He is fading from relevancy and walked away from guaranteed millions from the UFC: "Ngannou said Tuesday that for a fight against Jones, he would have made in the neighborhood of $8 million"

He thought he would be fighting Fury or Wilder: "Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder. I would like to test myself to that level," The big money boxing matches are not happening. He will end up fighting some no-name boxer and return to PPL at nearly 38 years old.

There's no shot in hell Francis generates more money than they've invested in him. Absolutely horrible business decision by PFL. Francis wasn't even a draw in the UFC, much less a draw that will generate millions for a lesser known MMA organization.

Every org and their mama signed Fedor and put him on stacked PPV cards. These were orgs with way more name value and recognition than PFL and rosters full of ram favorite fighters. They all did dismal PPV numbers (PRIDE, AFFLICTION, Bodog, Bellator etc) I struggle to see how a brand called PFL with a guy who isn’t that much of a draw to begin with will succeed there. Maybe if Jake Paul can draw fans in? This seems like a steep hill to climb. They need to bring back Kimbo to fight him and it will be as big as it can be. GOAT draw outside the UFC, RIP.

4x the amount of PFL's PPV last November. Major draw confirmed

You just get a platinum membership. That's how I got mine, got exposed months ago.

Can you tell Dana I won't be working tomorrow? I have impairing hemorrhoids giving me excruciating pain, from defending the UFC on my UFC wooden chair all day.

If he values his freedom, why is he taking on so many obligations for PFL? He had fewer contractual obligations when he was homeless in the streets of Paris, you're contradicting yourself.

Also, why should any of us applaud him for sticking to his guns? We're fans of fighting, not cheerleaders of Francis' personal journey. I'm not gonna applaud when a multi-millionaire runs from the most exciting matchups to fight cans while crying about "freedom".

I honestly cannot tell if Dana is playing 4-D chess or if the PFL is somehow worse at business than Francis. None of this makes any sense. Supposedly Francis just got an "insanely lucrative" deal (per every media outlet and MMA streamer out there) to fight in an organization that 99% of MMA fans have never heard of, in a division that doesn't even exist yet, against an opponent that doesn't exist...... for tens of millions of dollars per pop. Say what???? Oh and his rookie-league opponents each get $2+ million per pop too.....even though the events will be lucky to break half a million PPV buys....

2024... Lots of time to forget.

What fucking morons like you don't understand is that all of this "relevancy" talk and the "he wan't that good" narrative will actually backfire in his first fight for the PFL. If he wins, the UFC lost the best fighter in the world and the baddest motherfucker on the planet, despite what paper-champ jon jones says but if he loses...

...the UFC will look even worse as it will prove that the UFC does not have the best talent in the world because their "baddest motherfucker on the planet" just got stomped by some "no-name" in the PFL.

Catch 22 and the UFC has been caught.

 

[DestinedAussie]

4x the amount of PFL's PPV last November. Major draw confirmed

I think he can probably get 200K again with PFL with the first fight having some extra interest. But I doubt get more than that and definitely not 500K plus.

 

[Cracked_Rib]

Couture: bled dry by UFC legal team and forced to become Dana's bitch once again

Fedor: bankrupted pretty much every American org that overpaid for his services, got fucked over by his manager VaDummy, whose promotion M-1 global became UFC feeder league

Benson: faded into irrelevancy in Bellator, couldn't even get sponsors on his shorts

Fitch: signed with WSOF/PFL, only to split on very bad terms, got fucked over by divorce and Tinder GF, is now bitter, broke and suing the UFC

Rory: found Jesus and faded into obscurity

The list indeed goes on and on. Now it's Francis' turn.

Rarely did I read a more stupid post on sherdog. What does Fitch's divorce, Benson becoming less relevant, Vadim bankrupting M-1 or Dana sueing Couture have to do with Dana playing "4D chess"? There isn't a single move here any other greedy and vindictive bitch would do the same, nothing to do with being smart or ahead.

 

[LouisBolanos]

Rarely did I read a more stupid post on sherdog. What does Fitch's divorce, Benson becoming less relevant, Vadim bankrupting M-1 or Dana sueing Couture have to do with Dana playing "4D chess"? There isn't a single move here any other greedy and vindictive bitch would do the same, nothing to do with being smart or ahead.

Fitch got divorced because his vain Japanese wife married him for his prestige as a "UFC fighter", the divorce was a direct consequence of him leaving the UFC and becoming an all around bitter person. This is not me playing armchair psychologist, this is something he's admitted on his podcast.

Benson faded into obscurity in Bellator was a direct consequence of him leaving the UFC.

Dana literally called out VaDummy as a douchebag manager who's screwing Fedor over years before their breakup.

What happened to Couture was Dana and the UFC legal proving a point to him for daring to challenge their draconian contract.

You can be bitter and call Dana a vindicative bitch all you want, but you're just proving my point: in this business, it's survival of the scummiest and most vindicative, and the UFC has outlasted everyone else by being that way. You think you're insulting these people, but to these scumbags it's actually a compliment. Remember this when the day comes and PFL gets added to Dana White's tombstone.

 

[LouisBolanos]

What fucking morons like you don't understand is that all of this "relevancy" talk and the "he wan't that good" narrative will actually backfire in his first fight for the PFL. If he wins, the UFC lost the best fighter in the world and the baddest motherfucker on the planet, despite what paper-champ jon jones says but if he loses...

...the UFC will look even worse as it will prove that the UFC does not have the best talent in the world because their "baddest motherfucker on the planet" just got stomped by some "no-name" in the PFL.

Catch 22 and the UFC has been caught.

The only moron here is you. You and a couple dozen bitter hardcores on Sherdog who stream fights illegally might see things this way, but Sherdog is like the Twitter bubble, it's not real life. The vast majority of casuals in real life will see things exactly the way UFC wants them to see:

If Francis wins, then it will be "see, he ducked Jones to crush cans in PFL".
If Francis loses, it will be "see, told you he was no good, can't even crush cans".
In both cases, Jon Jones' position as true HW champ will be further strengthened.

 

[Kevster]

No one beat him. Anyone who has the belt will always know that they never took it from the champion, and the champion is still fighting. Its a worthless paper belt now.

Again, no, not really.

He can’t lay claim to something that he has vacated on his own accord, the last info we have regarding a UFC fight was the Jones offer.

Had big Franky accepted and Jones arse hole fell out, then okay maybe, or had Gane beat the ever living piss out of Jones.

But that didn’t happen, he walked away and Jones beat Gane without breaking sweat.

Someone doesn’t have to like Jones or be a “UFC shill” to point that out, he left with question marks, it is what it is.

 

[VonSupervillain]

What fucking morons like you don't understand is that all of this "relevancy" talk and the "he wan't that good" narrative will actually backfire in his first fight for the PFL. If he wins, the UFC lost the best fighter in the world and the baddest motherfucker on the planet, despite what paper-champ jon jones says but if he loses...

...the UFC will look even worse as it will prove that the UFC does not have the best talent in the world because their "baddest motherfucker on the planet" just got stomped by some "no-name" in the PFL.

Catch 22 and the UFC has been caught.

Moron...it's pretty simple...no one is watching fucking PFL. Their PPVs struggle to break 100K. Their estimated yearly revenue is around 23 million dollars and they're going to end up paying nearly half that to one fighter no one cares to watch. They'll be lucky to even get two fights out of Francis, as he barely fights and is nearly 40 years old. And who is he going to fight? 90% of this sub, which is a collection of the biggest MMA fans, couldn't name a single HW in the PFL. Awful business decision made by morons like you.

 

[Someone88]

Wow! This could be great. Congratulations to Ngannou!

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Here's a really good interview with Ngannou.

 

[Oldman1]

Again, no, not really.

He can’t lay claim to something that he has vacated on his own accord, the last info we have regarding a UFC fight was the Jones offer.

Had big Franky accepted and Jones arse hole fell out, then okay maybe, or had Gane beat the ever living piss out of Jones.

But that didn’t happen, he walked away and Jones beat Gane without breaking sweat.

Someone doesn’t have to like Jones or be a “UFC shill” to point that out, he left with question marks, it is what it is.

I didn't say he lay claim to it. But anyone watching it or anyone holding will know, they never beat the actual champion, and the actual champion is still active. The UFC HW belt is a paper belt now. The BMF belt even holds more worth.

The UFC did not pay him his worth which has resulted in a pointless division.

 

[BlackBradPaisley]

I mean... They now have.

The biggest draw in Boxing , Jake Paul.

The Lineal Heavyweight Champion , Ngannou

I feel like the Jake Paul signing wont amount to anything.

 

[MrCoffee]

What fucking morons like you don't understand is that all of this "relevancy" talk and the "he wan't that good" narrative will actually backfire in his first fight for the PFL. If he wins, the UFC lost the best fighter in the world and the baddest motherfucker on the planet, despite what paper-champ jon jones says but if he loses...

...the UFC will look even worse as it will prove that the UFC does not have the best talent in the world because their "baddest motherfucker on the planet" just got stomped by some "no-name" in the PFL.

Catch 22 and the UFC has been caught.

You’re an emotional mess. Calm down.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

No, you fucking moron, the PFL can boast that it has better talent than the UFC. If a PFL guy kicks Ngannou's ass, then what does that say about the talent in the UFC? All puff pieces.

It's already universally known to anyone who seriously follows the sport that the UFF DOESN'T have a monopoly on the best talent.

What the ufc has is It's the most recognizable mma promotion in the entire world and their Public Relations machine will convince the public that their Champs and fighters are the best in he world.

 

[TrueFightFan]

The only moron here is you. You and a couple dozen bitter hardcores on Sherdog who stream fights illegally might see things this way, but Sherdog is like the Twitter bubble, it's not real life. The vast majority of casuals in real life will see things exactly the way UFC wants them to see:

If Francis wins, then it will be "see, he ducked Jones to crush cans in PFL".
If Francis loses, it will be "see, told you he was no good, can't even crush cans".
In both cases, Jon Jones' position as true HW champ will be further strengthened.

You fucking UFC shills have this site covered...and the bad thing is that Sherdog has dropped all dignity and taken the cash to let you do it.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Moron...it's pretty simple...no one is watching fucking PFL. Their PPVs struggle to break 100K. Their estimated yearly revenue is around 23 million dollars and they're going to end up paying nearly half that to one fighter no one cares to watch. They'll be lucky to even get two fights out of Francis, as he barely fights and is nearly 40 years old. And who is he going to fight? 90% of this sub, which is a collection of the biggest MMA fans, couldn't name a single HW in the PFL. Awful business decision made by morons like you.

Look, Mr. White, you might have made a bad decision in regards to Ngannou but that's no reason to take it out on us lowly Sherdoggers...

On second thought...Fuck You.