Social For the first time in 20 years, more than half of Americans have a gun in their home

[USA!USA!]

With all of these good guys with guns the USA must have the lowest rate of mass shootings in the world. Look how safe all of these guns make us!

Frankly, I don't believe in that nonsense. When I got a gun, I just wanted one to protect my home and my family. I think that is what the surge is. People knowing how crazy the country is and wanting to have some sense of security.

Everyone who owns a gun or bought a gun isn't a gun nut or an NRA member.. some of us just want to protect our property and our families.

 

[CatchnShoot]

SOooooooo... murders, mass shootings, home invasions... violent crime in general should be way down right??

 

[fedoriswar37]

As a Canadian, appreciate what you have.

We have to 2nd guess defending ourselves in our own homes for fear of repercussions.

 

[My Spot]

SOooooooo... murders, mass shootings, home invasions... violent crime in general should be way down right??

Our gun homicide rate was trending down for over 25 years until the 2020 Summer of Love and Peace.

 

[Spounman]

SOooooooo... murders, mass shootings, home invasions... violent crime in general should be way down right??

No, genius. Just because you own a gun doesn't mean you can carry it outside of your home.
CCW's are few are far between in California. How are gun owners going to stop a murder or mass shooting away from their home if their gun is.............locked up in their home.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

As a Canadian, appreciate what you have.

We have to 2nd guess defending ourselves in our own homes for fear of repercussions.

some of the laws you guys have are genuinely batshit crazy. duty to flee? nobody has the duty to flee as it literally putz you at risk in doing so. if someone enters your home against your will and without permission it should be ok to shoot them simple as that.

i would NOT always exercise that right.... i would not shoot a guy on the way out my door with a tv for instance. but if you are in a home where family and loved ones are and you are not on the way out you have a good chance of getting shot for it.

 

[fedoriswar37]

some of the laws you guys have are genuinely batshit crazy. duty to flee? nobody has the duty to flee as it literally putz you at risk in doing so. if someone enters your home against your will and without permission it should be ok to shoot them simple as that.

i would NOT always exercise that right.... i would not shoot a guy on the way out my door with a tv for instance. but if you are in a home where family and loved ones are and you are not on the way out you have a good chance of getting shot for it.

Yeah its embarrassing. You shouldn't have to 2nd guess anything In a situation where you have to protect your home/family.

And I agree shooting just anybody who comes in the door. At best it's a deterrent to get them to retreat , at worst you need to use it. Here I have to actually think of will i go to prison if I do what I have to to protect myself .

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yeah its embarrassing. You shouldn't have to 2nd guess anything In a situation where you have to protect your home/family.

And I agree shooting just anybody who comes in the door. At best it's a deterrent to get them to retreat , at worst you need to use it. Here I have to actually think of will i go to prison if I do what I have to to protect myself .

the state i live in (wont say where) the cops would probably coach you in what to say so you dont gt into trouble frankly. "you were in fear for your life right"?

some cops literally told me that when i asked what would have happened if i shot a burglar that escaped the police through my backyard and we had just got to talking about scenarios like if he came into my home what could/should i do.

it is kind of a messy topic with ways to abuse lenient laws but dang man... if you cannot protect yourself in this world then something is very wrong.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Quick google says you're right. I'll be in and out.

i slept better after getting one man... we had tongan cript gangs in our first neighborhood and they would drink whiskey in front of my home and throw the bottles right in my yard. i witnessed a shooting there one night and had to testify in federal court. one of the dudes who walked up and down the street was an armed burglar who robbed several banks in our city......

thats when i bought the shotgun. i used to have bad dreams about not being able to protect my wife from harm and literally the next time i had that dream i shot the guy and that was that!!

just be responsible with it and safe about it. if you have kids or ever have them in your home get a quick release safe. they dont have to become an identity either. they are not for me. they are just a tool that i have.

 

[HomeCheese]

It just means more people will be shot. It's funny, statistics clearly show that if there is a gun in the home someone living there is more likely to be shot. But that doesn't stop the gun huggers believing they are safer with a gun at home.

Gun huggers think their guns are protection, gives them a sense of security. I wonder if people actually exercised more and worked on their bodies a bit, maybe they would not be so scared all the time?

It must be horrible physiologically to be afraid all the time.

 

[Topguntrophey]

So many interesting things to take "seriously" in the Constitution and this is what people get their inflatables on.

 

[My Spot]

ITT a poster who said he's still nervous about wearing a seat belt accuses others of being paranoid. <Lmaoo>

 

[Deleted member 577981]

It just means more people will be shot. It's funny, statistics clearly show that if there is a gun in the home someone living there is more likely to be shot. But that doesn't stop the gun huggers believing they are safer with a gun at home.

Gun huggers think their guns are protection, gives them a sense of security. I wonder if people actually exercised more and worked on their bodies a bit, maybe they would not be so scared all the time?

It must be horrible physiologically to be afraid all the time.

as i posted above those statistics dont account for all kinds of factors that can be mitigated. gun control people tend to try to present them as a one size fits all equal opportunity thing when they are not.

if you dont have a history of violence, dont have depression or mental illness, dont have domestic violence, dont get bombed on the weekend on booze and do learn how to use them, do have dogs, do have an alarm system and do keep them in a quick release safe the dangers of getting shot by your own gun or someone in your house getting shot are really low.

also i think its a bit naive of you to claim physical fitness as as home defense tool.... did you ever see that trained mma fighter in fighting shape nearly lose to some random that broke into his house? or all the home invaders who break in with guns? you are not doing anything against those guys with your fists man... you call it fear but i think its my duty as a man to protect my family in the case that something like that happens.

i dont need to experience fear to be prepared in this world. reason is a good enough motivation.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Yeah its embarrassing. You shouldn't have to 2nd guess anything In a situation where you have to protect your home/family.

And I agree shooting just anybody who comes in the door. At best it's a deterrent to get them to retreat , at worst you need to use it. Here I have to actually think of will i go to prison if I do what I have to to protect myself .

The obvious answer is:










Hide the fucking body.

 

[Scrody]

Good. Your safety is your responsibility.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

It just means more people will be shot. It's funny, statistics clearly show that if there is a gun in the home someone living there is more likely to be shot. But that doesn't stop the gun huggers believing they are safer with a gun at home.

Gun huggers think their guns are protection, gives them a sense of security. I wonder if people actually exercised more and worked on their bodies a bit, maybe they would not be so scared all the time?

It must be horrible physiologically to be afraid all the time.

You're afraid of inanimate objects.

 

[freakroor]

better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it.

 

[Belaya Smert]

That‘s different conversation. I’m taking issue with the idea that I have a constitutional responsibility to own a firearm. I don’t.

Yes, Constitutional responsibility would imply you have just as much right to own one as not own one. Depending on how you interpret the militia clause may effect the implication of “responsibility”
If you have reservations please don’t buy one.
But the constitution says by virtue of your birth you have that right inherent to your existence.

 

[Deorum]

In the home? That's great, especially since you can really up the ante on wieldable firepower with rifles and shotguns. Unfortunately (eh?), I'm far more likely to encounter threats when I'm not at home and instead out in public where the animals are. At the very minimum, I like having 10+1 either on my person or within arm's reach at virtually all times.

So the electorate is arming itself. I wonder how many voters also have slash resistant clothing, level 4 rifle rated ballistic defense, forms of protection from CBRN agents, or medical equipment, supplies, tools and pharmaceutical drugs to deal with extreme trauma and life threatening injuries.

 

[BFoe]

Yes, Constitutional responsibility would imply you have just as much right to own one as not own one. Depending on how you interpret the militia clause may effect the implication of “responsibility”
If you have reservations please don’t buy one.
But the constitution says by virtue of your birth you have that right inherent to your existence.

I don’t think the words “rights” and “responsibility” are interchangeable though, that’s what I’m taking issue with.

We have a right to vote, and I think an argument can be made that we also have a responsibility to vote. A responsibility implies to me that it’s a duty of sorts. I don’t think an average American has any sort of duty to our country or Constitution to own a firearm, like I’m not being a good American citizen unless I own a gun or something. That’s how I interpret it anyway, and I take issue with that.

But like you said, the militia clause is very relevant here. Back when states used well regulated militias made up of ordinary citizens for defense, I could see the argument that there’s a responsibility. But that isn’t the case in today’s world.

And I agree, someone with reservations shouldn’t buy a firearm. My dad willed me a gun (or two?) and I suppose I’ll have to do something with them at some point. They’re not in my possession, and that’s by choice. I’d have to buy a gun safe or something for them, clean and maintain them, etc.,and I just don’t have the interest.