Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

[LucasWithLidOff]

It's still on his twitter account.

Wrong

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

whatever you are .. you're still clueless if you're going on about who 'won' or who 'lost' the debate .. if you've been keeping up with this election at all

I guess thinking that Hillary won that debate makes me clueless then chief.
After Trump loses the election you and I can have a discussion about who's clueless, and I'm not referring to Trump on his foreign policy positions.

 

[steelcity77]

and by the way, holt was completely on clinton's side .. constantly pressing trump on issues .. didn't press clinton on shit

 

[Mark Hunts FIST]

[QUOTE="DevilsLettuce, post: 122008263, member: 492769] No reasonable person cares that a few diplomats were killed in a destabilized mulsim shithole at an embassy that never should have been there.....
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reasonable people should only be mad at the person who created the YouTube video that caused the death of those diplomats.

 

[Striderxdj]

His voters are ready to elect him because no relevant experience is a good thing in Bizarro World.
Trump thirsty, must drink glass of sand!

It's comical when you think back to the 08' election. What were the 2 main things that the right wing attacked Obama on? The fact that he was a celebrity and had no experience (despite being a senator). This was an actual ad ran.



Now those hypocrites are supporting a guy who was the star of a tv show about celebrities, and not only has zero experience, they think his ignorance is a virtue worthy of praise.

 

[klnOmega]

Where did I claim he was Hitler? He's pretty fucking bad, but Hitler is a mass murderer. Even making that comparison is a completely unfair assessment of what I've been saying.

See you talk about discussing things like an adult, but when you bring the presentation of a middle school kid, it's hard to have a discussion. It makes you look stupid when you can't spell basic words. Adults use grammar and spelling to the best of their abilities. Since you have no actual things you want to discuss, there's little else to talk about.

Dismissing arguments because of grammar and spelling is not what adults do. Its what intellectual cowards who are scared of defending their positions, and rebuking the opponent's position do. Go watch any debate ever. Never did Socrates say to someone "Well, I would consider your points, but you mispronounced a word so clearly your argument can't be very good". Look, if you don't want have a discussion or argue these points with me, fine. Just don't quote me in your posts and cause me to get spammed with reply notification that distract from the people who really do want to have a discussion.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Yes but why do you think the polls are showing the opposite? Just Hillary not being a likable candidate?

Professionally conducted polls aren't showing the opposite. So far, the CNN one is the only one that's been done (unless anyone knows of another?), and even it isn't considered super reliable. Online, self-selected stuff gets flooded with trolls. Those are the types of polls that showed Ron Paul winning the presidency in 2012. We'll see serious poll results in a few days.

 

[steelcity77]

I guess thinking that Hillary won that debate makes me clueless then chief.
After Trump loses the election you and I can have a discussion about who's clueless, and I'm not referring to Trump on his foreign policy positions.

again you are clueless .. another prisoner of the moment and the confirmation bias you're hearing .. Trump is going to win .. this is already done .. some of you have been in denial it seems the entire past 15 months .. 'trump is a joke candidate' 'trump will drop out by sept' 'trump won't win a state' 'trump has no shot at the nomination' .. again you all never learn

Remember there are three debates, and the one that will resonate with most Americans, will be the last one. Emails and stuff will come up, plus whatever Julian releases soon.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

It's comical when you think back to the 08' election. What were the 2 main things that the right wing attacked Obama on? The fact that he was a celebrity and had no experience (despite being a senator). This was an actual ad ran.



Now those hypocrites are supporting a guy who was the star of a tv show about celebrities, and not only has zero experience, they think his ignorance is a virtue worthy of praise.

Don't forget he got fired from his gig.

 

[sickc0d3r]

said for the 34657654th time since august 2015 .. no it doesn't .. it's done the exact opposite .. but some of you won't learn or are in denial .. that's what's appealing trump to the people .. his anger last night was channelling the peoples' anger .. keep watching .. clinton came off very snobby and elitist with that clown smile of hers and how she condescendingly reacted with that same stupid smile to some of trump's comments .. that won't go unnoticed .. and it won't help her favorable numbers

The problem is he's not adding any new support. His numbers won't grow by tapping into the angry people with that kind of rhetoric, he's tapped out. He's got all the angry misanthropes already. Her ceiling is much higher than his and he needs her to fall back to him.
Clinton came off as competent and prepared to anyone who's not an ardent Trump supporter. There is no way she lost ground last night, and more than likely she widened the gap.

 

[steelcity77]

The problem is he's not adding any new support. His numbers won't grow by tapping into the angry people with that kind of rhetoric, he's tapped out. He's got all the angry misanthropes already. Her ceiling is much higher than his and he needs her to fall back to him.
Clinton came off as competent and prepared to anyone who's not an ardent Trump supporter. There is no way she lost ground last night, and more than likely she widened the gap.

but he is ..last I checked he had a 20 pt lead amongst independents, was gaining black voters .. and narrowed the gap with women .. and was winning with married women

 

[DoomPatrol]

First of all im on my phone and its hardd to type so calm yourself down. Im pretty sure i can write as I scored 90% in my professional writing class a decade ago, but thanks for your concern.

Secondly, you think a lot of yourself for a 2nd rate engineering student, always talking down to people and mouthing off, unable to respond without having a hissy fit. You need to work on your temperment bud. You could learn a few things about that from trump, every post i see you in, youre flying off the handle.

Oh and try to write a response that isnt a fuckin novel next time k.

K moving on...

To your first point. I know trump has lied about things. I know trump isnt perfect. This isnt about what I think, its about how the american people view the candidate.

As far as the bankruptcy goes, welcome to the world of business where you wouldnt last a minute woth your line of thinking. I dont think you really underatand how billion dollar businesses operate, they are going to use every advantage to maximize profits. Welcome to the business world buddy, life isnt fair. He followed the laws to maximize profits and minimize losses. Thats how business works, sometimes the little guy gets squashed.

Your second point is basically a paragraph of crying about how trump is a racist liar bad man.. Ok... Actually he did basically what hes done every debate, and it wasnt him having to clarify policies that hurt him, he just spent too much time on the defensive and should have been more prepared with counter arguments. I dont think he expected jhilary to come out attacking him that much.

Hilary has plans, wow im impressed, and you trust her? You talk about trump being a liar etc but compared to hillary...

She has scripts and when pressed for details she gives vague explanations, no better than trump.

You can call him a moron but it just shows your lack of understanding. Trump knows certain things he says will appeal to people, obviously not you, but others. Hes playing the game to an extent which is why he hasnt changed much. You dont change a winning formula and thats what trump has had so far.

If you think trump is doing this for his rich buddies you really need to wake up

Nice of you to think of me as second rate. Not sure where you came up with that assessment considering you've never seen me work. If you want to personally insult me because I corrected your spelling, then I can't stop you. It makes you look rather petty though. I mean, who the fuck are you anyways and what do you know? Also, I work with people worth hundreds of millions of dollars. In fact, one of our most recent clients is literally one of the wealthiest people on the planet. He's sitting on the top ten list right now. So saying I know nothing about big business is a silly fallacy with no basis in reality. There's no anger in my words. I only speak the truth I see before me. If you don't like the facts I present, you're always welcome to produce facts that prove me wrong. If correcting someone means I've "flown off the handle" then I don't know what sheltered world you live in. I don't care enough about you or your opinions to get angry.

It's funny how you talk shit about me and use "k" like a teenage girl and complain about 3 paragraphs being too hard to read.

I'm not crying about anything. I'm stating facts about Donald Trump. You're talking about not trusting a candidate then you go right into supporting Donald Trump. Hillary's plans are freely available for review through several sources. Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary is the fucking Pope, that's what she is in comparison. She's made mistakes, but she's not a malicious bigot like Donald Trump has been proven to be.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Trump is going to win .. this is already done .. some of you have been in denial it seems the entire past 15 months .. 'trump is a joke candidate' 'trump will drop out by sept' 'trump won't win a state' 'trump has no shot at the nomination' .. again you all never learn

Sure, sure. He looks terrible, "Couldn't have done better, he smashed her!"
He lies, "It's creative truth telling!"
He makes vague feel-good promises, "Yep, he's going to build a wall Mexico will pay for!"

He could win. But he's by far the least substantive candidate for *any* office I've *ever* seen.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Hillary body bagged him. T'was hilarious.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

but he is ..last I checked he had a 20 pt lead amongst independents, was gaining black voters .. and narrowed the gap with women .. and was winning with married women

Hook us up with a source that isn't insultingly biased please.

 

[method115]

Professionally conducted polls aren't showing the opposite. So far, the CNN one is the only one that's been done (unless anyone knows of another?), and even it isn't considered super reliable. Online, self-selected stuff gets flooded with trolls. Those are the types of polls that showed Ron Paul winning the presidency in 2012. We'll see serious poll results in a few days.

Oh ok I see what you mean. Well I look forward to those polls coming and seeing what they say.

 

[steelcity77]

Hillary body bagged him. T'was hilarious.

he landed his own solid kill shots .. she had no responses other than smile like a condescending robot

 

[steelcity77]

Hook us up with a source that isn't insultingly biased please.

isn't biased .. funny .. this was straight from cnn

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

and by the way, holt was completely on clinton's side .. constantly pressing trump on issues .. didn't press clinton on shit

That is undeniable. Plus they gave Trump a defective microphone. All things considered,I'd say he had an amazing performance.

I guess one could also argue that Hillary's mic was defective too, but only because there was an a hole behind it.

 

[steelcity77]

trump destroyed her the first 30-40 minutes .. I hear a lot of people start tuning out after that .. makes sense why he won all these polls .. bad news for crooked hillary