Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

Who won the debate?


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Have you even read his tax plan?

If you're under a certain bracket, you don't even pay fucking income tax.

But its all about those tax cuts to the wealthy, right?

Thats true under every tax plan, including the current one. He just also wants tax cuts for the rich.
 
General consensus even on cnn was that he embarrassed her in economy which is what most people care about.

What were you watching?

They said he was strong at the beginning concerning trade, not the economy.

What were you watching?
 
You brought up race as though the dems are obsessed with it. Conservatives are the one's obsessed with race.

Are you kidding me? Have you even payed attention to politics over the past 30 years? Conservatives, not Dems obsessed with race??? Laughable.
5:00 Lester Holt decided to bring it up as a whole debate topic.


As a conservative, I wish more people would listen to the words of MLK

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm
 
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Bernie can fuck off too. Governor Gary Johnson is the realist one there was
 
Funny how right wingers don't care about the national debt any more now that they have a chance to control the White House .

Funny how you can't argue with me without making a strawman.

National debt will go up regardless of who's in power. The real difference is going to be who can create long term growth. Real, lasting effects of growth are going to cost a lot of money regardless. Small Businesses will do well with less taxes.
 
That debate honestly was horrible. Little to no substance. Ad hominem attacks in every response. They both sound like bafoons. Embarrassing.


I thought it was enlightening. I thought they were both human feces going in, and now I wonder about the human part.
 
Cnn is by far the biggest. They also hate trump. Switch onto that if you get the chance

He won the first half before she set him off on tangents and that was what most people watch. He was saved by the bell today.

I don't think he will be as respectful in the next two.

No interest in watching cable news, its awful.

Agreed about the debate though. Hillary got him rustled and he couldnt keep his composure. Maybe he can prep that to remain calm, but i kinda doubt it.
 
Clinton: Trump has called women "pigs," "dogs" and "slobs"

This is accurate. Trump used those exact words to describe Rosie O’Donnell, New York Times columnist Gail Collins and Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington. He also called a lawyer who had to pump breast milk "disgusting."

^ That's from politifact's fact checking.

If that's not obviously biased I don't know what is. He called ONE WOMAN those names. They say it's accurate that he calls WOMEN those names.

If Trump makes a minor grammar issue they rate it pants on fire.
"You gotta treat 'em like shit"

-Trump on women
 
And did anyone notice he all of a sudden, out of nowhere went against the position of the NRA about watchlists? He then even stated that we should be taking guns away from people on watch lists. Am I missing something or did he just vomit out something he thought sounded good but was actually counter to his base policy?

It's just clear with the way he talks that he knows so very little about how any of this works and even less about the actual issues. He really has trouble talking in complete sentences because he's so flustered to make a ton of points. It's childish.

Second Amendment is a huge issue that Republicans rely on to get support/votes from the common man , and he just basically said fuck it with the whole stop & frisk thing.
 
Funny, because Mexico still exists, as does every other Banana Republic. Seems like flawed reasoning to me.
You're just making my point. Claiming that you want transformational change by once again being a "nation of laws" is simplistic and dumb. It makes no practical sense in the real world.
 
You realize its a tactic people use to just laugh and act like the person is crazy when they say something right?

It doesn't mean they're actually saying something crazy. Hillary even laughed when Trump called her out on the emails. HUHU I guess he was wrong on the emails!

I would agree that if Clinton was rolling her eyes while Trump was speaking lucidly, that would not be well received. Unfortunately, and you bloody well know this, 80% of what Trump said in the debate was stream of consciousness vomit that was barely decipherable.
 
Thats true under every tax plan, including the current one. He just also wants tax cuts for the rich.

Hillary Clinton's lowest tax bracket is at 10%. That's for people who make 10,000 dollars a year.
 
Funny how you can't argue with me without making a strawman.

National debt will go up regardless of who's in power. The real difference is going to be who can create long term growth. Real, lasting effects of growth are going to cost a lot of money regardless. Small Businesses will do well with less taxes.

But if you listened to Republicans just five years ago, you'd think the national debt was a bigger concern to them than long-term growth.
 
I am Canadian and could not care less who wins, i really don't think it matters. At all.

Having said that holy fuck did Donald take a shit kicking. That looked like an adult talking to a child of ten or so.

more like a smug corrupt establishment hack trying to talk down and condescend her opponent .. and trust me .. people were noticing .. that's a negative for her
 
They said he was strong at the beginning concerning trade, not the economy.

What were you watching?

Well I was watching in Australia. Maybe they didn't translate it properly over here.
 
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