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Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

Who won the debate?


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So I don't take a position on whether Clinton's camp started that rumor. They say one of their employees went off and did that proactively, and they actually did fire the person held responsible, fact. On the other hand, well after Trump new, unambiguously, that the birther issue was dead, he pushed it for nearly 5 years, all of it an indisputable bald faced lie. This, again, is the difference in perception.

they were both in involved in the birther issue .. she did it first .. that is all .. how that's perceived by the public, we'll see I guess
 
How many boards of kicked him out of power of his own companies?
Not enough? You obviously know more about this than I do.

Did you somehow mistake me for a Trump supporter? While I'm not, I do believe he's genuine in thinking he can do positive things for the US. Do I believe his good intentions would bear fruit? Lol. No.
 
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Watched about ten minutes. Was being told by both candidates what is wrong now and what has been wrong in the past. No one discussed the future in any way (granted in my limited time of watching).

So, I turned it off.
 
they were both in involved in the birther issue .. she did it first .. that is all .. how that's perceived by the public, we'll see I guess
Sure, one of them squashed it and heads rolled (in either a genuine move or a politically calculated one- I don't know the truth), and the other perpetuated it for half a decade knowing it was a lie.
 
I too am interested in this. I want to know which fighters are stupid, easily manipulated and unable to follow more than two links in a chain of thought (Hillary supporters)

You know Trump is the one who is big with the uneducated unwashed masses of angry white guys right? Or is that just one other thing you don't understand?
 
what sounds nice? i provided a source showing our allies and obama's cabinet is in support of keeping it on the table. He basically said no first usage is a bad policy -- which most states agree on. More sources:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/no-first-use-nuclear-weapons-policy-a-dangerous-ob/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/s...vow-no-first-use-of-nuclear-weapons.html?_r=0

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ncerns-obama-mulled-no-first-use-nuke-policy/

Well, I have to say I disagree with all of them, including Trump. To me, starting a nuclear war is a bad idea.
 
He didn't specifically state that nuclear war as a defensive measure or as a deterrent was what he was referring too. He just said "I'm not taking anything off the table regarding nuclear weapons" - which, when referring to nuclear weapons, also means a first strike. Being perfectly clear on what he meant by "nothing off the table" was utterly unimportant to him, and isn't important to his supporters, which is very telling of their mindset.
He specifically said he's against a nuclear first strike. He also said he's not taking the use of nuclear weapons off the table.

I don't see what is complex or controversial about this.
 
Actual important stuff he won. Economy for example.

Thu really pressed lawsuits and birth certificate stuff which is quite irrelevant when it comes to going forward in America.

Hillary will have little wiggle room in the debates to come. They all went very easy on her. Nothing about emails, lying to congress, Benghazi...

Trump got wrecked on the ecomony, with his tricke down.

And the emails did come up. Hillary apaolgised and trump said little.
 
Obama is leaving office in about 4 months. How does the whole birther issue affect the next 4-8 years? It doesn't .
You brought up race as though the dems are obsessed with it. Conservatives are the one's obsessed with race.
 
Watched about ten minutes. Was being told by both candidates what is wrong now and what has been wrong in the past. No one discussed the future in any way (granted in my limited time of watching).

So, I turned it off.

The beginning of it was actually pretty close. Trump went off the rails later on
 
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