Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

[Fawlty]

Did anyone else laugh when she plugged her book? What a fucking goof

Did you laugh when he plugged Mar-a-Lago?

 

[Bald1]

"Presidential as Fuck" should be a campaign slogan.

Beats the hell out of "hope", " yes we can" "I'm with her", and "I'll take you for a stupid fool and break all my campaign promises you simple plebs"

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

You prove my point even further. If you think anything he said about the use of nuclear weapons was coherent or sensible you are listening to what he says and just adding whatever you feel like adding to it to make it sound nice for yourself.

what sounds nice? i provided a source showing our allies and obama's cabinet is in support of keeping it on the table. He basically said no first usage is a bad policy -- which most states agree on. More sources:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/no-first-use-nuclear-weapons-policy-a-dangerous-ob/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/s...vow-no-first-use-of-nuclear-weapons.html?_r=0

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ncerns-obama-mulled-no-first-use-nuke-policy/

 

[Deleted member 196663]

He lost, dude. There is no sugarcoating it.

Forget national polls. They should just poll you.

 

[steelcity77]

Hillary's campaign has an answer to that controversy which hasn't been falsified. Trump has no answer and no plausible defense for lying about Obama for so many years. Big difference, and that's why it overshadows.

not at all .. it's proven someone close to her tried to get obama investigated before trump ever came into the picture with this birther thing .. and then you have the muslim obama pictures .. she can't get away from that one .. keep trying .. you're coming off like a hillary shill

 

[in the]

HC to Trump.

lulz.

It was more like that commercial where kids with Downs are running and one of them falls down, and the rest of them hold hands and cross the line, but the girl crossed first.

You won the race, but only because you were less retarded than your competition.

 

[tkotom]

Actual important stuff he won. Economy for example.

Thu really pressed lawsuits and birth certificate stuff which is quite irrelevant when it comes to going forward in America.

Hillary will have little wiggle room in the debates to come. They all went very easy on her. Nothing about emails, lying to congress, Benghazi...

 

[Jkaylor]

I too am interested in this. I want to know which fighters are stupid, easily manipulated and unable to follow more than two links in a chain of thought (Hillary supporters)

 

[Magx951]

Did you laugh when he plugged Mar-a-Lago?

yes

 

[Pem123]

He's good at venting resentment, and attacking policy positions (whether logically or illogically). I'd look to those kinds of tactics plus laying out 3 policies of his own, even if Hillary hits him back there a bit.

and that what he should focus on, making people hate hilary ( which a lot of people already are ) attacking her policy, so people stop focusing on the fact that he has almost no knowledge on policy, and be aggressive about it ( while being as polite as possible)

Clinton could absolutely counter this and win, but Trumps only change is to be aggresive, there is no way he could win a cool headed and intellectual debate about policy

 

[Throttlehead]

He should have just explained that he doesn't write the tax laws, he just follows them. That would have been the end of that.

That doesn't explain away the fact that Trump wants to give the rich more tax breaks

 

[Gandhi]

Murders are down btw in NYC before and after stop and frisk.

 

[Magx951]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/26/eight-examples-where-fact-checking-became-opinion-/

"B-but fact checkers are always o-objective!"

Inb4 washington times isn't legit

 

[Fawlty]

not at all .. it's proven someone close to her tried to get obama investigated .. she can't get away from that one .. keep trying .. you should like a hillary shill

So I don't take a position on whether Clinton's camp started that rumor. They say one of their employees went off and did that proactively, and they actually did fire the person held responsible, fact. On the other hand, well after Trump knew, unambiguously, that the birther issue was dead, he pushed it for nearly 5 years, all of it an indisputable bald faced lie. This, again, is the difference in perception.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

Any summaries? I can't stand to watch this stuff.

I just skimmed through this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ton-presidential-debate-transcript-annotated/

Important parts are in yellow, or so it claims.

 

[Fawlty]

yes

I'll be honest, I was praying to the whole Pantheon for him to refer to Trump Steaks. cheers.

 

[Diamond Jim]

Who in the campaign says hey bring up her husband got blowjobs in front of the nation?

 

[Joe]

i cant imagine the holt bashing going on white nationalist twitter and stormfront

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

I think Holt was okay.

If he was interrupting Trump, it was to interrupt Trump's interruptions.

Wrong

 

[Magx951]

Sick fact checking. Correcting somebody on a topic completely unrelated to the topic they were talking about!