Elections First Presidential Debate Discussion: 9/26/16

[Fawlty]

Over/under on Hilary throwing up in a glass and drinking it?

Over/under on Hilary having a seizure?

Over/Under is not a framework for a proposition about one event occurring or not. It has a quantitative dimension beyond yes/no.

 

[Diamond Jim]

Trump, who at first called for Lester Holt removed until he found he was a registered republican, has already told Holt he doesn't want any fact checking done by the moderator. His game plan is pretty obvious. Spew out bullshit for an hour and hope something sticks.

 

[Quipling]

Over/under on Hilary throwing up in a glass and drinking it?

Over/under on Hilary having a seizure?

I assume this is an open ended offer for a bet that these things will happen. Very well, I accept. Sig for a month ok?

 

[DannyNL]

From what I've seen over the last few days, even the lefty media knows that Hillary is going to get obliterated in the debates and they're trying to prep people with a "just because Trump is the better talker doesn't mean he'd be the better president" slant. A few Dems have already claimed they fear Trump will tell lies during the debate (rich coming from the Clinton camp), trying to plant seeds in the minds of the public and minimize the damage before it even begins.

 

[Oeshon]

What will be more important out of the 3.

1 - Debate performance

2 - How the media spin it after the fact

3 - Social Media memes and clips of the debate

I'm leaning on 3.

 

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[gtm3]

What will be more important out of the 3.

1 - Debate performance

2 - How the media spin it after the fact

3 - Social Media memes and clips of the debate

I'm leaning on 3.

I hope Pepe is stretching his legs right now.

 

[Space]

You have to admit, not being Donald Trump is a pretty good campaign position at this point of the race.

No, I don't have to admit it.

Doing so would cause my testosterone levels to drop to Bernie fan levels.

 

[RhinoRush]

I assume this is an open ended offer for a bet that these things will happen. Very well, I accept. Sig for a month ok?

Let's make it more interesting. Year long sig bet.

I have Trump winning the election, you have Hilary.

 

[cooks1]

That's funny, but I think there's a good point there- they might both end up being reserved because they don't want to fuck up (and they might want to look credible). I wonder if Trump knows that a boring debate is a loss for him. He's actually in a really tough spot, as he has to rile up the yahoos, but can't turn America's stomach.

Pretty well said. At this point I think both candidates are going to have trouble changing peoples minds. The best they can hope for is to change a few minds and energize their bases to get good turnout.

Trump has to be the most intelligent appearing version of himself, while still actually being himself and simultaneously not be too much of a bully or a dick. A tight rope if there ever was one. He will not be able to sound bite his way through this one.

Hillary needs to not have any 'physical manifestations' of any kind during the debate. Which until a couple weeks ago I thought was a non-issue. Her 'health event' really, really hurt her. I did not see that one coming. People get sick and get pneumonia and all that, but that image of her stumbling and needing help like that is going to stay in peoples minds all the way until the election. That is a very legitimate issue a lot of people really care about. She needs to put it to bed during the debates with her physical performance.

Really I think both probably want to leave without spilling too much blood. I am beginning to smell a performance that does not live up to the hype. And if that is what happens, it will probably be a Hillary UD 30-27 score. Because when they replay the comments, there will be substance to what she said.

 

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[mygoddotcom]

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IT'S TIMMMMEEEEEEE

Introducing first ....

Fighting out of the Red Corner

This man is a freestyle fighter. Standing at an impressive 6'4" weighing in at a thick solid and tight 235 pounds... Believe me! Winner of the 16 man GOP primary, he is the undisputed, undefeated, undeterred, unrustled alt-right champion of the world!

Donald J. Trump

And his opponent...

Fighting out of the Blue Corner

She is potentially an eplileptic lizard person!

Hillary Clinton

Biggest debate of all time!!!

Who you guys got?

What are you on the look out for?

Over/under on Hillary coughs?

I've never been more excited for a presidential debate EVER!

If mentally challenged people porn was legal, Hillary could make a career in it. That last GIF is amazing. I bet she can put two BBCs in that mouth, hell, even three, if you ask me

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

I plan on learning the dollar to ruble conversion rate and drink lots of vodka

Da, tovarisch!

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Fuck it. Personal and sensationalist attacks is what got Donald to the table -- he should jab at Clinton as much as he can to see If he can get her to break. The bar is higher for her; trump can trump but Hillary can't take the bait.

She has to be preparing for it but I'm guessing the majority of viewers don't care about policy and are tuning in for controversy. Trump can't go full Asshole but he's got enough leeway to make debates (hilarious) great again

 

[snakedafunky]

Donald "biggest hands in the business" Trump vs Hillary "the Lizard" Clinton

This is the typical grappler vs striker match up. You have Clinton who has a lot of policy knowledge even compared to other career politician. But she is not the best debater she doesn't seem to have the "it" factor like Obama, Bush or Bill had. Seems rather dry and tries to bury her opponent with policy. Get lots of hours in prepping for the debates.

On the other hand you have Trump no policy knowledge whatsoever. But he has a basic idea about issues that seem a lot of people agree with. He can also read a room like no other, and is an expert in TV knows exactly how he will look etc. Doesn't do any specific prep just shows up and sees what happens.

Difficult to say what will happen. Could go either way.

 

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[HereticBD]

Trump, who at first called for Lester Holt removed until he found he was a registered republican, has already told Holt he doesn't want any fact checking done by the moderator. His game plan is pretty obvious. Spew out bullshit for an hour and hope something sticks.

That sounds like it has an agenda, but it makes sense. The moderator isn't there to debate. They should not be fact checking either candidate, and making an argument for the other one. That's the job of the candidates in the debate to debunk any lies their opponent might be throwing out there.

If Hillary lies, it's up to Trump to call her on it. If Trump lies, it's up to Hillary to call him on it.

 

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[HereticBD]

Is that legit?

 

[in the]