Fighters with Japanese Jujitsu background?

I have trained both jjj and bjj. Jjj training takes place mainly on your feet and there is a heavy emphasis on throwing and takedowns, which is what most BJJ practitioners lack. I am proud to say that i have never ever been taken down when rolling or competing in BJJ. The lack of takedown skills among BJJ practitioners in general, is shocking. JJJ is almost purely for self-defense purposes and the key is not to go to the ground, but to throw your opponent/attacker. BJJ should be combined with JJJ/judo or even wrestling because it is insufficient the way it is practised. Almost always beginning the rolling on the knees.
 
Michael Bisping did it as his first martial art, checked first page to see if anyone said him, not checking rest,
 
Jeez, this thread has come back to life more times than Jason Voorhees
 
I think original JJJ must of been badass, but since people have lost that knowledge and there aren't many good teachers around. That's why I think there aren't many practitioners around in mma.
 
Michael Bisping has a background in Japanese JJ..He talks about it in his podcast I believe
 
One of the funniest quotes I ever heard went something like this:

"Traditional jiu jitsu is like trail mix; there's a little bit of everything but none of it's any good."
 
The problem with your question is that Japanese jiu jitsu is not a single system, but a categorizing of a multitude of Japanese-born grappling arts. Judo, Brazilian jiu jitsu, and aikido are all forms of "Japanese jiu jitsu". If you're thinking more aikido type stuff, as most do when referencing that, then it comes down to a lack of actual ground work (a lot of takedowns right into locks or standing locks) and no sparring.
 
OneManGang said:
I have trained both jjj and bjj. Jjj training takes place mainly on your feet and there is a heavy emphasis on throwing and takedowns, which is what most BJJ practitioners lack. I am proud to say that i have never ever been taken down when rolling or competing in BJJ. The lack of takedown skills among BJJ practitioners in general, is shocking. JJJ is almost purely for self-defense purposes and the key is not to go to the ground, but to throw your opponent/attacker. BJJ should be combined with JJJ/judo or even wrestling because it is insufficient the way it is practised. Almost always beginning the rolling on the knees.
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Yeah I call bullshit on this post. There’s plenty of bjj guys that spend a lot of time working on their takedowns; and that’s not even talking about all the wrestlers and judokas that train in bjj.

Furthermore, I’ve done JJJ and it certainly doesn’t prepare you for live takedowns any better than it does ground work. Kind of the whole reason Judo was created
 
Some styles of Japanese Jiu-jitsu are extremely effective self-defense against untrained attackers. It isn't effective at all in MMA because much of what you learn is against the rules. Groin strikes, eye gouging, small joint manipulation.

For MMA, JJJ is not something that is required, but for real-life fighting it is a great base.
 
It's more to be seen as a self defense MA. Of course it's effective since it has Judo throws/ground work and Karate striking but it's meant to be pretty basic and not for advanced full contact fighters.

You spend a lot of time learning techniques that are banned in MMA (like small joint manipulation, eye pokes, groin strikes) and weapon training like the Kubotan/Tactical Pen.
So why would somebody with aspirations for MMA waste his time to learn all the techniques to fuck somebody up with a pen?
 
under_t said:
Judo = Jujitsu
Jigoro Kano just changed the name from Jujitsu to Judo.
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Judo = Gentle Way
Jiu Jitsu = Gentle Art

Also the effectiveness of almost any martial art comes down to who taught you and how they taught you.
 
Joseph Duffy has a black belt in japanese jj if I remember correctly.
 
Azure said:
Judo = Gentle Way
Jiu Jitsu = Gentle Art

Also the effectiveness of almost any martial art comes down to who taught you and how they taught you.
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^^^^^^^^^This
 
Blayt7hh said:
Yeah I call bullshit on this post. There’s plenty of bjj guys that spend a lot of time working on their takedowns; and that’s not even talking about all the wrestlers and judokas that train in bjj.

Furthermore, I’ve done JJJ and it certainly doesn’t prepare you for live takedowns any better than it does ground work. Kind of the whole reason Judo was created
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I call bullshit on your post. The wrestlers and judokas doing BJJ are good at takedowns and stopping takedowns because they have a wrestling or judo background. BJJ offers close to nothing in that department. That’s why BJJ guys who don’t want to be butt flopping for the rest of their lives take up wrestling and judo.
 
Blayt7hh said:
Yeah I call bullshit on this post. There’s plenty of bjj guys that spend a lot of time working on their takedowns; and that’s not even talking about all the wrestlers and judokas that train in bjj.

Furthermore, I’ve done JJJ and it certainly doesn’t prepare you for live takedowns any better than it does ground work. Kind of the whole reason Judo was created
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Thats not why judo was created i don't think.
 
OneManGang said:
I call bullshit on your post. The wrestlers and judokas doing BJJ are good at takedowns and stopping takedowns because they have a wrestling or judo background. BJJ offers close to nothing in that department. That’s why BJJ guys who don’t want to be butt flopping for the rest of their lives take up wrestling and judo.
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Yeah and you never ran into a guy, as someone from an art that doesn’t practice live that could take you down in your bjj class? The lie detector determined that was a lie
 
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