I feel like the only top UFC guy who never used is BJ Penn.
Frankie Edgar as well
I feel like the only top UFC guy who never used is BJ Penn.
Nostalgia hit me reading your comment. Good ol Spike days. Binging TUF4 now.Serra is a special case for TUF being the way to a title shot but other than that: if the guy beat you, the champ, for the title, then he was inherently champ level, wasn't he? And they will go down in the annals of history as a champ, so you've lost to a champion.
I don't see how it's any kind of devaluing that it was specifically you they beat to become a champ. Like, if they beat someone else to become the champ and then later they beat you, that is somehow some higher level of being champ?
BJ, Diaz bros, Edgar. Everybody else was juiced.I feel like the only top UFC guy who never used is BJ Penn.
Idk about Edgar, but Diaz bros were definitely clean from roids.BJ, Diaz bros, Edgar. Everybody else was juiced.
There was talk about Edgar being on PEDs after he one shotted Chad Mendes.Frankie Edgar as well
Makes sense about the early guys.Yeah I figured there would be a bunch from the early days which I ignored. Maybe a stip of having at least 5 UFC fights would help.
Brunson is the only hiccup IMO in his run, since Romero is 100% champ material. Other than that Machida had a ridiculously impressive strength of schedule.Machida? Who did he lose to that wasn’t a champion in the UFC?
Edit: Nevermind, Romero and Brunson.
Yan's pre-UFC loss was BS BTW.There are only 5 UFC fighters, who have only lost to other UFC champs (not counting interim champs and BMF title):
Can you guess the 5th one without looking at records (I had to look it up - would've never guessed)
- DC
- Gane
- GSP
- Petr Yan (edit: doesn't count since he has a pre-UFC loss I didn't catch while making this list)
LWPre-2010Sean "The Muscle Shark" Sherk
PS: I might be missing contenders, but I can't think of any
EDIT: Also Carwin, Cain, Ronda, Joanna, Chad Mendes (surprised me)
Sean Sherk's record is like, 1 win away from being an all-time great.

Umar, of course, just didn't update the original post when I saw him. Added now.Makes sense about the early guys.
Are we not counting Umar though?
This was from TUF, but I can't remember what he was nodding to. Something Jens said, or was it to Andy Wang's whining?
I'm not sure, I just vividly remembering BJ destroying Sherk with a knee.This was from TUF, but I can't remember what he was nodding to. Something Jens said, or was it to Andy Wang's whining?
Sherk also lost to FrankieI guessed Muscle Shark right off the bat lol... didn't he only lose to BJ and Hughes? Might be wrong about Hughes
Gotcha.Makes sense about the early guys.
Are we not counting Umar though?
Found another. Honestly never even heard of this guy before but he does have 5 UFC fights and his only loss is in his last fight to Joshua Van - https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Rei-Tsuruya-380465Umar, of course, just didn't update the original post when I saw him. Added now.
Wrong seasonThis was from TUF, but I can't remember what he was nodding to. Something Jens said, or was it to Andy Wang's whining?