Fight Announcements/Negotiations

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I have been wondering what exactly is “negotiated” when setting up a fight? Most of these dudes are on already set contracts with base salary, win bonus etc. So why the hell does it take so long to announce fights, particularly championship fights? For example, why doesn’t Poatan have a fight announced already? Shouldn’t drag on this much ffs.
 
LeBron said:
I mean when there’s a clear #1 contender, why doesn’t the UFC just announce the fight within a few days? Why wait?
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There are tons of layers to it but:
Why don't they announce Alex vs Ank already?
They only announce a few at a time so people don't hang back and ingore upcoming fights and wait to watch/buy tickets to their Fav's next fight.
 
There's a chance each guy will want a different venue/location or might want to fight on a specific PPV
 
rjmbrd said:
Its a business not an actual sport.

They are ALWAYS optimizing for profit.

There is no other answer.
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No need to talk like that. That's only part of the equation
 
I have worked in sports management with independent contractors. Its a clusterfuxk. TS, you ever hear the phrase, it's like herding cats.
 
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markys00 said:
No need to talk like that. That's only part of the equation
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Its a publicly traded company, setting aside all other things. It is literally the fiduciary duty of the executives to maximize returns.

If you want to get into the weeds, you can look at the many well written articles on the class action discovery to see how the UFC has operated over they years re: negotiation. The short answer is to optimize financial gain at all times, in all forms.

Any other thoughts are karate movie fantasy.
 
UFC has 11 champions (not counting Interims or BMF) they have to work around and build cards with. Relax.
 
Probably Ankalaev's demands holding things up. Only wants to fight in Saudi Arabia or UAE, has to be no earlier than 4 months after the end of Ramadan, Halal catering, and an extra large jacuzzi in the hotel room.
 
rjmbrd said:
Its a publicly traded company, setting aside all other things. It is literally the fiduciary duty of the executives to maximize returns.

If you want to get into the weeds, you can look at the many well written articles on the class action discovery to see how the UFC has operated over they years re: negotiation. The short answer is to optimize financial gain at all times, in all forms.

Any other thoughts are karate movie fantasy.
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Yeah. I misspoke, I'm on some good stuff tonight. I think my man just wants to understand the behind the scenes of it all. Telling him UFC does everything to maximize profits is, well, an obvious answer
 
LeBron said:
I have been wondering what exactly is “negotiated” when setting up a fight? Most of these dudes are on already set contracts with base salary, win bonus etc. So why the hell does it take so long to announce fights, particularly championship fights? For example, why doesn’t Poatan have a fight announced already? Shouldn’t drag on this much ffs.
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Poatan's situation is ugly for UFC right now. There is a real chance he loses to a super boring Dagestani who is pretty much an unknown. He has helped the company so many times and they have a good relationship with each other. Understandable they want to avoid ankalaev
 
Base pay is just how much they guarantee you. If you are a big named fighter, guaranteed pay and pay-per-view points can/ will be negotiated per each event. If you have two big named fighters in a potential matchup, all three parties involved will have to agree to whatever compensation. Ie Nate Diaz would never fight Conor on his base salary. Stipe wouldn't haven't accepted that fight with Jon Jones unless he got his fair share

UFC is also looking to find the best value for the current champion. They may throw rumored fights out to the public to see if it gets interest. Then they will throw these potential matchups between both parties.
 
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Three major things to be decided...for every bout...every time...

1) Match up

2) Venue and their feasibility


3) Timing/date.

All three parties need to agree to these terms- Harder then you might think when you got international talent and disney/wwe owners



And then theres the added revenue streams to discuss such as merchandise , ticket sales percentages and PPV points percentages


UFC always getting the lions share of ofcourse with the other two (both fighters teams) left to debate over the scrap few percentage points
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