Futbol FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Thread v4: Countdown to the Final Edition

Will there be any more upsets? (according to betting favorites)

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for @LEWIS540 :p;)

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@Chules props to the City lads (for once) :)

 
Belgtard said:
First of all, what does being rich have anything to do with any of this ? USA would be underdog to Brazil and are much richer. Leicester were underdogs when winning the EPL in 2016, and being poor or rich had nothing to do with it.

Second of all, you get the Moroccan nationality by birth to Moroccan parents wherever you’re born, you do not need to get naturalised. That depends from country to country. Other countries might require you to get naturalised even if born there. In America you are considered American if born there, but that’s not the reality everywhere.

Anyway, I won’t be an asshole and will assume I understand what you mean by « naturalised » even if not correct, since all these players were considered Moroccans at birth. Reality is that you don’t get to decide what other people feel like. When you have a culture and parents from another country, you just grow up with that culture, especially if surrounded by huge immigrant communities like in Europe. It’s just the way it is, national sentiment takes time to develop sometimes, across generations. They might decide to go with country of birth, or not, one is not more or less illegitimate than the other.

Reality is that here it’s only just a matter of Europeans shitting on Africans who dare defending their country of origin, since they consider themselves to be much more superior. Funnily enough, most of the Moroccan players would not have sniffed European teams anyways, apart from Hakimi and Ziyech, so not sure what they’re complaining about.
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Lol at pretending being rich doesn't help. Obviously it's not the only factor, but high GDP + football culture = football powerhouse. Just about all the great footballing nations are in the top 20 in GDP.

And "sentiment," "feel" and culture have nothing to do with player development. I can feel 10,000% Ghanaian, Chinese, or Belgian, but that doesn't mean that they developed my sporting skills because I've never lived in those countries. The fact of the matter is that those players are 100% European, in a sporting sense.

And trust me, I'm very aware of Europeans' superiority complex. Undermining and belittling others while elevating themselves is what they've been doing for 500 years. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean they never have a point. And if they bring up the best Moroccan players being European... they'll be right.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
Lol at pretending being rich doesn't help. Obviously it's not the only factor, but high GDP + football culture = football powerhouse. Just about all the great footballing nations are in the top 20 in GDP.

And "sentiment," "feel" and culture have nothing to do with player development. I can feel 10,000% Ghanaian, Chinese, or Belgian, but that doesn't mean that they developed my sporting skills because I've never lived in those countries. The fact of the matter is that those players are 100% European, in a sporting sense.

And trust me, I'm very aware of Europeans' superiority complex. Undermining and belittling others while elevating themselves is what they've been doing for 500 years. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean they never have a point. And if they bring up the best Moroccan players being European... they'll be right.
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Pretty impressive with what Portugal produces with a 50 ranked GDP.
 
Possum Jenkins said:
Lol at pretending being rich doesn't help. Obviously it's not the only factor, but high GDP + football culture = football powerhouse. Just about all the great footballing nations are in the top 20 in GDP.

And "sentiment," "feel" and culture have nothing to do with player development. I can feel 10,000% Ghanaian, Chinese, or Belgian, but that doesn't mean that they developed my sporting skills because I've never lived in those countries. The fact of the matter is that those players are 100% European, in a sporting sense.

And trust me, I'm very aware of Europeans' superiority complex. Undermining and belittling others while elevating themselves is what they've been doing for 500 years. HOWEVER, this doesn't mean they never have a point. And if they bring up the best Moroccan players being European... they'll be right.
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They are European, AND Moroccan. The way you bring it up is not the way the other asshole earlier in the thread brought it up (who will say they are European only when successfully playing at the highest level of world football, while shitting on them in other occasions and call them wherever they’re from.)

And there is no such thing as being « 100% European in a sporting sense ». They were formed in Europe but still get Moroccan roots. Feeling Ghanaian, Chinese, whatever is up to each one, it’s not a mathematical formula. You can feel both, or a bit of both, or you have even people that don’t really feel at home anywhere.

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Arqueto said:
Croatia 2-1 and then Morroco 1-0 against France. Croatia vs Morroco for the final. Morroco wins it all


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I’ve been waiting my entire life for my team to be represented like this. I’m getting naked and my wife is painting me as the Moroccan flag for the game
 
hope Croatia wins
i don't give a shit about argentina tbh
don't dislike them, don't like them, they're just meh to me.
 
So many Argentina haters. Must be rest of South Americans that got finished earlier with the tournament...
 
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