Feminism, Sexism, and Entitlement

[Da Speeit]

Women and Men arent treated equally and both benefit and suffer because of it.
That's about all there is.

That said, Women in first world countries, as a whole, and this is an absolute by no means, pick and choose what is convenient to be upset about.

I think women do want special instead of equal treatment, but that's no reason to not give them equal treatment, if that makes sense.
Social parameters really dont excuse the issues of pay and other inequalities, and vice-verse

 

[SowingSeason]

Ok what are you distant Cherokee princess great great grandma? And saying people choose to live Ina ghetto is ridiculous. And hired gun as in you are paid to kill people. And yeah I go to a better school than you will get into even after being uncle SAMs hoe.

lol I'm mulatto, you dunce.

I said people choose to perpetuate the cycle...again...reading is your friend.

And if I am? Better to get paid for it then to live in the 'war zone' that is the ghetto and do it for free IMHO.

Whatever, dude. You bitched about women not having the same obligation in the military and I tell you that I am a woman who took it upon myself to serve my country and you trash me for that too?
You look like an idiot.

And again...you're not in college nor have ever been to college. I bolded all your retarded spelling/grammar errors for your benefit.

 

[Josh]

It does not perpetuate nothing.

You just can't deal with the fact so ad hominem is your friend now.

You're right. It does not perpetuate nothing, it perpetuates something, the continued misuse of the term. Good day.

 

[BownArrow]

It's far more common in disadvantaged areas. And yeah if you are a man you get fucked up that's your problem. That's just the way it is. No one is gonna hold your hand or let you cry on your shoulder.

It's more common, but not extremely so- domestic violence isn't like other crimes, the perpetrator almost always have more power than the victim. And yeah, domestic violence towards men is a problem. No one should be alright with it. That's one thing sexism is bad for- being harsh on men who don't act all macho and actually try and stop their abuser. Society looks down on them. It sounds like you look down on them.

 

[tkotom]

You're right. It does not perpetuate nothing, it perpetuates something, the continued misuse of the term. Good day.

lol that's an honest mistake

i was somewhere between it perpetuates nothing and it doesn't perpetuate anything but tehre you go again ad hominem ..

enjoy your day, sexist.

 

[Memory**]

lol I'm mulatto, you dunce.

I said people choose to perpetuate the cycle...again...reading is your friend.

And if I am? Better to get paid for it then to live in the 'war zone' that is the ghetto and do it for free IMHO.

Whatever, dude. You bitched about women not having the same obligation in the military and I tell you that I am a woman who took it upon myself to serve my country and you trash me for that too?
You look like an idiot.

And again...you're not in college nor have ever been to college. I bolded all your retarded spelling/grammar errors for your benefit.

then I bet I know which one you lived with. Explains why you act so hoist toity. Anyway I said its wrong for men to have to die in unjust wars. No amount of nationalist propaganda by you means shit to me.and you are still a mouthy selfish female regardless. And believe or not I'm dyslexic. Nice way to trash a disabled person. Scumbag. Glad I still managed not to take blood money hand outs from the government.

 

[Josh]

lol that's an honest mistake

i was somewhere between it perpetuates nothing and it doesn't perpetuate anything but tehre you go again ad hominem ..

enjoy your day, sexist.

Okay, for my amusement, how am I sexist?

 

[Da Speeit]

lol I'm mulatto, you dunce.

I said people choose to perpetuate the cycle...again...reading is your friend.

And if I am? Better to get paid for it then to live in the 'war zone' that is the ghetto and do it for free IMHO.

Whatever, dude. You bitched about women not having the same obligation in the military and I tell you that I am a woman who took it upon myself to serve my country and you trash me for that too?
You look like an idiot.

And again...you're not in college nor have ever been to college. I bolded all your retarded spelling/grammar errors for your benefit.

lol did he really?
I have go read through this

 

[SowingSeason]

then I bet I know which one you lived with.Explains why you act so hoist toity. Anyway I said its wrong for men to have to die in unjust wars. No amount of nationalist propaganda by you means shit to me.and you are still a mouthy selfish female regardless.

Oh? Please tell me about my life! Tell me who I lived with.

Have the nuts to say what you're insinuating outright.

 

[Deadred2]

Thanks for reading, debating, and not being a douche about it.

Also, I'm not sure if this was you or someone else, but I thought the logic someone followed arguing that men were actually more valued by society due to the reasons I stated and were held to a higher standard was actually very brilliant and extremely well done. I was very impressed and actually had to think about that one.

 

[TeTe]

That said, Women in first world countries, as a whole, and this is an absolute by no means, pick and choose what is convenient to be upset about.

Ain't that the truth. Honestly, this applies to all sorts of people.

It's amazing when people compare their problems to other people's and like to keep tally on whose are "worse"

 

[tkotom]

Okay, for my amusement, how am I sexist?

feminism in an advanced country (at least that like my own) is tantamount to sexism

you have every right just like the next gender yet you still choose to align yourself with a political movement which is degrading to the other sex

as a guy who is respectful to both genders equally, it is insulting to be grouped in with the scum who treats men/women badly based on their sex -- the people who usually group men into these stereotypes are the feminists

i can understand feminism in a country with obvious male dominance like an India or something but seriously.. Australia for example.. why..

 

[Memory**]

It's more common, but not extremely so- domestic violence isn't like other crimes, the perpetrator almost always have more power than the victim. And yeah, domestic violence towards men is a problem. No one should be alright with it. That's one thing sexism is bad for- being harsh on men who don't act all macho and actually try and stop their abuser. Society looks down on them. It sounds like you look down on them.

No I just don't glorify victim hood or weakness for practical reasons.

 

[BEER]

Thanks to you for showing the same respect. When I'm tired like this I don't quite catch on as quickly as others, so I hope you'll forgive me in that respect. But now I think what you were really trying to imply is that society itself doesn't so much value men more or less than women, but just values each gender equally in different ways for their different roles. Am I correct or did I miss something?

You pretty much got it. Cheers man.

Women and Men arent treated equally and both benefit and suffer because of it.
That's about all there is.

That said, Women in first world countries, as a whole, and this is an absolute by no means, pick and choose what is convenient to be upset about.

I think women do want special instead of equal treatment, but that's no reason to not give them equal treatment, if that makes sense.
Social parameters really dont excuse the issues of pay and other inequalities, and vice-verse

You have a way of saying things better than I can. Bravo.

 

[SowingSeason]

then I bet I know which one you lived with. Explains why you act so hoist toity. Anyway I said its wrong for men to have to die in unjust wars. No amount of nationalist propaganda by you means shit to me.and you are still a mouthy selfish female regardless. And believe or not I'm dyslexic. Nice way to trash a disabled person. Scumbag. Glad I still managed not to take blood money hand outs from the government.

Nice edit.

Also you're the one bragging about your college learning yet I'm hoity toity.

And women are dying in unjust wars too. Thats the point. Nationalism aside.

Also I could care less if you're dyslexic. You're not sensitive to my position as a woman or anything else so you do not get that courtesy.

 

[Memory**]

Oh? Please tell me about my life! Tell me who I lived with.

Have the nuts to say what you're insinuating outright.

Well you are going to tell me I didn't go to college. So you are just going to have read between the lines for being a female dog.

 

[Josh]

feminism in an advanced country (at least that like my own) is tantamount to sexism

you have every right just like the next gender yet you still choose to align yourself with a political movement which is degrading to the other sex

as a guy who is respectful to both genders equally, it is insulting to be grouped in with the scum who treats men/women badly based on their sex -- the people who usually group men into these stereotypes are the feminists

i can understand feminism in a country with obvious male dominance like an India or something but seriously.. Australia for example.. why..

That's feminism, gender equality. The reason it's called feminism is because inequality favoured men historically, and still does globally. What you call 'feminism' isn't actually feminism, and to dismiss it does no service to it's continued value globally.

 

[SowingSeason]

Well you are going to tell me I didn't go to college. So you are just going to have read between the lines for being a female dog.

And you're going to tell me that I'm Uncle Sam's ho.

No one feels bad for you.
Your beta is showing.

 

[KrazyKanadian]

lol did he really?
I have go read through this

Trust me, I read a couple pages. You don't really want to

 

[Da Speeit]

Ain't that the truth. Honestly, this applies to all sorts of people.

It's amazing when people compare their problems to other people's and like to keep tally on whose are "worse"

Well, i think some do have it worse than others, and they should be acknowledged and addressed, but that's going deeper into socio-economic and ethnic statuses more than gender.

A hispanic man from a poor neighborhood in no way is on an equal playing field as a white woman. Like you said, it's dumb and arbitrary to make a competition of sorts, but i feel that's exactly what happens with a lot of modern "feminism" and a lot of other groups like the NAACP, which I have my own personal views toward.

The same way a black male from a wealthy family is playing a much more fair and balanced game than a white woman from a poor neighborhood.

It's the classes I'm more worried about, than debating who's got the superior genitalia or skin tone.