Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

There's no benefit of TRT outside of having a normal testosterone level.

So Henderson had the normal testosterone level of a man of his age due to his TRT treatment, unless he abused it.

But according to you, he got 10 years younger without abusing TRT <36>

All that mental gymnastic, it must be tiring <36>


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"Normal testosterone levels"

Smh delusional fool
 
When Hendo was 33 he was between his sub losses to the Nog Brothers. I’m not sure if you are seriously saying that: Henderson was a worse fighter when he fought Fedor than when he fought the Nog Brothers and because of that Fedor is not that great of a fighter because he lost to a post-prime Hendo.

Is that your actual argument?

because to everyone else, Fedor declined starting with Hunt and continued to get less diverse with his attacks and slower with his reactions. Hendo had steaks of brilliance but also boring gift decisions all through what should have been his physical prime but put together some of his best performances while under TRT.

you can argue about who you think is a better hw than Fedor, but arguing against the clearly different career trajectories of Fedor and Dan Henderson is absurd.

I'm making fun of him constantly contradicting himself, moving the goalposts, making up stupid shit, being a delusional fanboy, and not knowing what the fuck he's talking about. Fuckin hell, dude.
 
I'm making fun of him constantly contradicting himself, moving the goalposts, making up stupid shit, being a delusional fanboy, and not knowing what the fuck he's talking about. Fuckin hell, dude.


You're just mad because @arrmike absolutely destroyed your garbage ass shillish rat post, that's why you had no answer for him and instead started crying about me. Typical couch dweller behavior. Owned and then deflected to me. What a clown lol.
 
You're just mad because @arrmike absolutely destroyed your garbage ass shillish rat post, that's why you had no answer for him and instead started crying about me. Typical couch dweller behavior. Owned and then deflected to me. What a clown lol.

Puffing your little bird chest because you think someone is agreeing with you is another thing I've been making fun of you for. So have many others. Too easy, little buddy.
 
Puffing your little bird chest because you think someone is agreeing with you is another thing I've been making fun of you for. So have many others. Too easy, little buddy.

You probably look like Kevin Iole.
 
This is about Fedor at his peak.

It also involves Nemkov indirectly because Nemkov who is arguably the best LHW in the world uses Fedors fighting system from 2005.

It shows that the myth of "evolution" is just that. A myth. If the sport has evolved so much then nobody using Fedors fight system from 2005 would become one of the best LHWs in the world.

I largely agree. There is such thing as evolution in the sport but IMO there is so much variety it just comes down to different permutations and combinations of skills and attributes

The best of the best really aren't much better than the best fighters as far back as 2003.

The only real difference I see is that there r a few more fighters that reach that level depending on the weight class.

Imagine believing that it's all about "evolution" yet fighters like Werdum, Nog, Fedor, Arlovski, Barnett were at the top thru multiple generations of fighters while having more wear and tear and being older than those fighters lol
 
There's no benefit of TRT outside of having a normal testosterone level.

So Henderson had the normal testosterone level of a man of his age due to his TRT treatment, unless he abused it.

But according to you, he got 10 years younger without abusing TRT <36>

All that mental gymnastic, it must be tiring <36>
“Abuse” meaning what specifically? A man can have a testosterone level anywhere between 300 ng/dL-1000ng/dL and be flagged “normal,” even though there is an absolute world of difference in performance, stamina and endurance, ability to build muscle, and recovery. In that period in MMA history, fighters weren’t typically tested between fights, and on fight night could have a T:E level of 6:1 (normal is roughly 1:1) without being flagged as a violation (4:1 in CA IIRC).

I’m a big Hendo fan, but the proof is in the pudding: on TRT, Hendo was a simultaneous PRIDE champ-champ, Strikeforce LHW champ, beat Fedor, and won a legendary war with Shogun. That Shogun fight was initially his last on TRT, and he promptly dropped 3 straight. He got one more exemption for TRT in the shogun rematch in Brazil which he won. Then back off TRT went 2-4.
He is officially 2-7 when off TRT, it was clearly a major performance enhancer for him. Only trolls and idiots would claim otherwise. Which one are you?
 
I’m a big Hendo fan, but the proof is in the pudding: on TRT, Hendo was a simultaneous PRIDE champ-champ, Strikeforce LHW champ, beat Fedor, and won a legendary war with Shogun. That Shogun fight was initially his last on TRT, and he promptly dropped 3 straight. He got one more exemption for TRT in the shogun rematch in Brazil which he won. Then back off TRT went 2-4. He is officially 2-7 when off TRT, it was clearly a major performance enhancer for him.

Even if your story was true, it's so abnormal to have worse performance with a medical condition called hypogonadism (meaning abnormally low testosterone level) once you can't take TRT anymore <GOT2>

What's next : being surprised because a fighter has worse performance without training ?

Only trolls and idiots would claim otherwise. Which one are you?

Sure : Fedor spent his whole career beating juiced monsters in Japan "while being completely clean" but lost against a grandpa IN THE FIRST ROUND BY TKO only because of TRT.

Sure i'm the troll <36>
 
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Even if you story was true, it's so abnormal to have worse performance with a medical condition called hypogonadism (meaning abnormally low testosterone level) once you can't take TRT anymore <GOT2>

What's next : being surprised because a fighter has worse performance without training ?



Sure : Fedor spent his whole career beating juiced monsters in Japan "while being completely clean" but lost against a grandpa IN THE FIRST ROUND BY TKO only because of TRT.

Sure i'm the troll <36>

You're not only a troll but also a low iq rat. Telling lies to stangers on the internet. A sad existence.
 
Even if you story was true, it's so abnormal to have worse performance with a medical condition called hypogonadism (meaning abnormally low testosterone level) once you can't take TRT anymore

What's next : being surprised because a fighter has worse performance without training ?
You can’t tell the difference between training, and taxing exogenous performance enhancing hormones?? That fact explains a lot about your awful posts ITT.
Sure : Fedor spent his whole career beating juiced monsters in Japan "while being completely clean" but lost against a grandpa IN THE FIRST ROUND BY TKO only because of TRT.

Sure i'm the troll
ONLY because of TRT? No, there’s rarely just one reason a fight goes the way it does, and I don’t think TRT is the only reason, or even main reason, the fight specifically ended by TKO. But it has a lot to do with the level of opposition a declining Fedor was facing, and you trollishly calling Hendo a grandpa who was anything but.

—Hendo up until 2006 was called “Decision Dan.”
—TRT Hendo from 2007-2011 was an absolute beast, and it’s certainly telling that 5 of his 8 wins during that time ended by (T)KO, in addition to him winning his PRIDE MW and Strikeforce LHW belts during that time.
—Hendo off of TRT was a grandpa, and went 2-7.

That’s not “my story,” as you call it. Those are facts.
 
You can’t tell the difference between training, and taxing exogenous performance enhancing hormones?? That fact explains a lot about your awful posts ITT.

No you're saying that having worse performance with hypogonadism without a proper treatment is surprising, which is a complete nonsense.

Obviously, without TRT, Henderson would have his medical condition untreated, so obviously it could be troublesome, don't you think so ? <GOT2>

But having logic and being a fanboy is not compatible...

That’s not “my story,” as you call it. Those are facts.

Cool story <36>

Also, obviously he didn't take anything in Japan when he was called "Decision Dan".

I mean it's way more convenient trying to cheat in the UFC vs no drug testing in Japan, right ?

And he was so unbeatable that he lost against the WW Jake Shields (he made most of his career in the WW division) while he beat Fedor only one year after that...

Also, explain to me how TRT on a grandpa could be more powerful than the whole pharmacy taken by younger fighters in Japan ?

And Fedor still won his fights in Japan...
 
No you're saying that having worse performance with hypogonadism without a proper treatment is surprising, which is a complete nonsense.

Obviously, without TRT, Henderson would have his medical condition untreated, so obviously it could be troublesome, don't you think so ? <GOT2>

But having logic and being a fanboy is not compatible...



Cool story <36>

Also, obviously he didn't take anything in Japan when he was called "Decision Dan".

I mean it's way more convenient trying to cheat in the UFC vs no drug testing in Japan, right ?

And he was so unbeatable that he lost against the WW Jake Shields (he made most of his career in the WW division) while he beat Fedor only one year after that...

Also, explain to me how TRT on a grandpa could be more powerful than the whole pharmacy taken by younger fighters in Japan ?

And Fedor still won his fights in Japan...

What a dishonest low iq rat lol
 
“Abuse” meaning what specifically? A man can have a testosterone level anywhere between 300 ng/dL-1000ng/dL and be flagged “normal,” even though there is an absolute world of difference in performance, stamina and endurance, ability to build muscle, and recovery. In that period in MMA history, fighters weren’t typically tested between fights, and on fight night could have a T:E level of 6:1 (normal is roughly 1:1) without being flagged as a violation (4:1 in CA IIRC).

I’m a big Hendo fan, but the proof is in the pudding: on TRT, Hendo was a simultaneous PRIDE champ-champ, Strikeforce LHW champ, beat Fedor, and won a legendary war with Shogun. That Shogun fight was initially his last on TRT, and he promptly dropped 3 straight. He got one more exemption for TRT in the shogun rematch in Brazil which he won. Then back off TRT went 2-4.
He is officially 2-7 when off TRT, it was clearly a major performance enhancer for him. Only trolls and idiots would claim otherwise. Which one are you?


Imagine going through all these mental gymnastics to convince yourself a guy who got ko'd by an old career MW would beat Fancis,


"...promptly dropped 3 straight...."


Yea 2 SDs against far better fighters than Babalu or Feijao.

By your own words, he had a war with Shogun then went off TRT and what??? ko'd in the first round by a LW?? nope,2 SDs against literally equal if not slightly better fighters to Shogun. Machida had just Matrix'd Bader ffs. Yea Hendo REALLY fell off a cliff smh


Hes a career MW/LHW who has KO'd one HW and is 50/50 with Shogun, Chida, and Shad---on or off TRT
 
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Hello. This right here is a guy named Tim Sylvia.
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At UFC 68, he lost his UFC title to Randy Couture.
  • Couture was coming up from LHW
  • Couture was outweighed by 40.5 lbs
  • Couture was 43 years old.

ROFL at

It took me like 12 seconds to think of an example.



Nobody considers Sylvia an elite fighter. Sorry dude, but its a fact.


He was 1-0 with a win over Cabbage in the UFC before his TS.

Randy began his mma career as a HW and won the title before Sylvia...so, yeah
 
No you're dumb cuz you don't know the difference between opinion and fact and you don't know what context means lol
So Fedor losing to Werdum, Bigfoot and Henderson is opinion , in your mind?

Can you define the word opinion and the word fact?
 
Looking at the state of current LHW and HW, prime Fedor could easily be double champ.
If he couldn't beat a 40 year old MW-

Who could he possibly beat today?

Hell CroCop had the balls to go into sanctioned fighting and how did that go?

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