Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

[BFoe]

Injuries and alterations to style do not equate to out of prime. Again, you're failing to separate "physical prime" with "individual personal best" - which are two entirely different things.

Physical prime is an age thing. Declines in ability, performance, and skill due to aging is someone "out of their prime". Declines in performance due to injury, sickness, brain farts, anxiety, nervousness, having to take a shit, or whatever the fuck else, is someone "not at their best" or someone who had a bad night. It doesn't mean they've aged out of their prime.

Fedro at 33 wasn't out of his prime. He lost because he started consistently facing top competition for the first time in his career. He didn't do as well as he did against lesser competition. This is expected. Is normal. It's also ok.

We’re not talking about one night though. Would you prefer it if we said, “Accumulated damage and injuries had made it such that Fedor could no longer compete at his best”?
You’re arguing over what appear to be (very silly) semantics.

 

[Can’t Handle My Riddum]

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You're clearly an autist lol

Fedor was a lean 237lbs at his peak with very little fat. Had no issues throwing around 250lb men and flooring a 400lb man with one punch.

You're using an example of him from Strikeforce in 2011 when he was on a decline. You know what this word means? DECLINE? That's why he had more fat, less speed, and looked bad in his fignts and started losing. It's called decline.

Low iq

You need to be less emotionally connected to a single fighter.

You frequently call people autistic but your inability to understand opposing points of view and your obsession with a single fighter seems to suggest that you sir, may be on the spectrum.

 

[The Last King]

You need to be less emotionally connected to a single fighter.

You frequently call people autistic but your inability to understand opposing points of view and your obsession with a single fighter seems to suggest that you sir, may be on the spectrum.

You should mind your business you little chump

 

[Can’t Handle My Riddum]

You should mind your business you little chump

The definition of the internet slang for autist is:

A person characterized by abnormal and unhealthy focus or persistence, low self-awareness and unhealthy hatred of opposition or criticism.

You have displayed every single one of these characteristics in this thread.

I can help you. PM me. I’m being serious.

 

[The Last King]

The definition of the internet slang for autist is:

A person characterized by abnormal and unhealthy focus or persistence, low self-awareness and unhealthy hatred of opposition or criticism.

You have displayed every single one of these characteristics in this thread.

I can help you. PM me. I’m being serious.

Why do you care you random internet weirdo? Why are you so invested? Kick rocks Clown.

 

[Can’t Handle My Riddum]

Why do you care you random internet weirdo? Why are you so invested? Kick rocks Clown.

Newsflash: We are all random internet weirdos.

Your aggressive nature in this thread, calling people autistic who don’t agree with your obsession with Fedor is humorous. And yet, there is a part of me that wants to help you. That’s all.

 

[The Last King]

Newsflash: We are all random internet weirdos.

Your aggressive nature in this thread, calling people autistic who don’t agree with your obsession with Fedor is humorous. And yet, there is a part of me that wants to help you. That’s all.

Thanks random clown. Now kick rocks.

 

[Can’t Handle My Riddum]

Thanks random clown. Now kick rocks.

I await your PM.

 

[The Last King]

I await your PM.

 

[Midget Boxer]

Fedro at 33 wasn't out of his prime. He lost because he started consistently facing top competition for the first time in his career. He didn't do as well as he did against lesser competition. This is expected. Is normal. It's also ok.

He forgot how to grapple and started to fight stupid. his fighting skills got worse. Wasn't the best version of him.

I'd say he was past his prime even though he wasn't 80 year old and broke his hips like a grandpa
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[BFoe]

Newsflash: We are all random internet weirdos.

Your aggressive nature in this thread, calling people autistic who don’t agree with your obsession with Fedor is humorous. And yet, there is a part of me that wants to help you. That’s all.

This response is amazing

 

[TheNinja]

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You're clearly an autist lol

Fedor was a lean 237lbs at his peak with very little fat. Had no issues throwing around 250lb men and flooring a 400lb man with one punch.

You're using an example of him from Strikeforce in 2011 when he was on a decline. You know what this word means? DECLINE? That's why he had more fat, less speed, and looked bad in his fignts and started losing. It's called decline.

Low iq

He seems to think JDS, Stipe, JDS, and Werdum for example were large HWs. They weren't. They are big men, but not huge HWs. And thinks Fedor was like 230 and a lot of fat. Plus don't put Frank and Gane on the best HWs list IMO. I'm saying take the top 10 HWs ever and I'd bet 8 of them were 240ish not 260ish.

Plus Fedor stopped mixing it up after Pride IMO. Not even the physical decline. He seemed to go into this headhunting stage, kind of at peace with collecting checks and whatever God's will was would happen. Either complacency, injuries, or maybe lost some of his explosiveness and didn't trust it.

I know Nog isn't the best TDD but Fedor literally just tossed him

Again not great TDD but a HUGE man

 

[Fioretti]

We’re not talking about one night though. Would you prefer it if we said, “Accumulated damage and injuries had made it such that Fedor could no longer compete at his best”?
You’re arguing over what appear to be (very silly) semantics.

Either way you're making excuses for your favorite losing. He's not the only fighter to accumulate damage and/or injuries. Every single fighter ever has accumulated damage and injuries, including his opponents. Fedro took very little damage in his career up until that point. Compared to most HWs, that is.

I'm correcting a narrative. He wasn't past his prime.

He forgot how to grapple and started to fight stupid. his fighting skills got worse. Wasn't the best version of him.

I'd say he was past his prime even though he wasn't 80 year old and broke his hips like a grandpa

That's not what past your prime means. He didn't "forget how to grapple", he was outgrappled in 2 consecutive fights and was knocked out on the ground in the next one.

It was the first time he fought 6 top 10 guys in a row, and he went 50/50. He won 5 in a row (should be 4) after that, proving that he could still perform well against subpar competition. Be real, boys.

 

[Fioretti]

Comments like this just show you are a newbie. Since all the top guys were in Pride.

It is also a stupid thing to say. Prime doesn't have anything to do with age.
A running back in the NFL isn't in prime condition in late 20s, because of the damage done to their body.

They're maybe not at their individual personal best in their chosen sport, but a man is in his physical prime between the ages of 28-35. Facts.

 

[BFoe]

He seems to think JDS, Stipe, JDS, and Werdum for example were large HWs. They weren't. They are big men, but not huge HWs. And thinks Fedor was like 230 and a lot of fat. Plus don't put Frank and Gane on the best HWs list IMO. I'm saying take the top 10 HWs ever and I'd bet 8 of them were 240ish not 260ish.

Plus Fedor stopped mixing it up after Pride IMO. Not even the physical decline. He seemed to go into this headhunting stage, kind of at peace with collecting checks and whatever God's will was would happen. Either complacency, injuries, or maybe lost some of his explosiveness and didn't trust it.

I know Nog isn't the best TDD but Fedor literally just tossed him

Again not great TDD but a HUGE man

Imo it didn’t just halt after PRIDE, it was a gradual decline. He grappled plenty against Lindland, also against Choi, and compare your first GIF to this one:

It’s basically the same TD. Fedor still grappled post-PRIDE, but in the Rogers fight we could see its decline. He had pretty sloppy sub attempts (such as the kimura attempt). The Rogers fight was the last time we saw a lot of that stuff.

 

[ServantofGOD]

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You're clearly an autist lol

Fedor was a lean 237lbs at his peak with very little fat. Had no issues throwing around 250lb men and flooring a 400lb man with one punch.

You're using an example of him from Strikeforce in 2011 when he was on a decline. You know what this word means? DECLINE? That's why he had more fat, less speed, and looked bad in his fignts and started losing. It's called decline.

Low iq

That is the only fight he weighed 237lbs in that I can remember. The ones preceding like vs Arona and Schilt he weighed less and there after I am positive. I am being lazy but I looked up just via google the Schilt weigh in and he was less.

I have seen all his fights. He was usually 233lbs and kettle bell Fedor was not lean he was muscular but had a lot of fat on him still.

Well my point is that early and later Fedor was not so strong. This version vs Nog was solid no doubt though

 

[ServantofGOD]

He seems to think JDS, Stipe, JDS, and Werdum for example were large HWs. They weren't. They are big men, but not huge HWs. And thinks Fedor was like 230 and a lot of fat. Plus don't put Frank and Gane on the best HWs list IMO. I'm saying take the top 10 HWs ever and I'd bet 8 of them were 240ish not 260ish.

Plus Fedor stopped mixing it up after Pride IMO. Not even the physical decline. He seemed to go into this headhunting stage, kind of at peace with collecting checks and whatever God's will was would happen. Either complacency, injuries, or maybe lost some of his explosiveness and didn't trust it.

I know Nog isn't the best TDD but Fedor literally just tossed him

Again not great TDD but a HUGE man

Body composition matters.

The Stipes, Werdums are 245lbs solid athletic. Most versions of Fedor minus a few fights he is 233lbs... But their compositions are different. You guys have a lot of excuses

Apparently I cannot use Fedors appearance or weigh ins from 2008 till now as proof or pre 2004. You want to focus on a narrow time period where he was the largest

 

[Midget Boxer]

That's not what past your prime means

What does age matter then? Werdum prime was 33-36. He wasn't a 25 year old stud but so what? He had his best years outside his physical prime

Glover won the title near 40. Randy couture was champ around 40 too. Was 25 year old glover better than 40nyear old glover?

 

[Hog-train]

Fedor had the slickest transitions from striking to grappling and GNP. His ground and pound was the best ever IMO.

I also agree he was the fastest HW ever.

 

[TheComputerGuy]

They're maybe not at their individual personal best in their chosen sport, but a man is in his physical prime between the ages of 28-35. Facts.

Making something up doesn't make it a fact.