Media Fedor Emelianenko Resumé Review

[BFoe]

But it is true. We cannot deny it and Stipe, Werdum, Ngannou, Gane, Pavlovich going forward and in their past never got this luxury

Ok, a lot to unpack here.
—First of all, it’s not a luxury. These days, fighters fight 1-3x a year, and it’s typically all good or ranked opponents. Fedor fought good and ranked competition 1-3x a year too, just as often as fighters today. These other fights were in addition to, and not instead of, fighting good competition.

2002: Fedor began the year still in RINGS and fought Haseman, then Schilt and Herring.
2003: Fedor fights Nogueira, Fujita, and Goodridge this year plus Valavicius and Nagata.
2004 is nuts, with Fedor fighting Coleman, Randleman, Ogawa and Nog on the same night, and then Nog again as the previous fight was an NC.

You get the idea. People get hung up on this idea that it’s the number of undefeated fights in Fedor’s streak that’s significant and I disagree. Those are just icing on the cake.

—Secondly, it’s silly to use fights that occurred at the beginning of someone’s career as an example of fighting cans. Everyone does that, and some fighters—like Ngannou and Usman for example—lose to them.

—Third, it’s an extremely dishonest list. Lazarov, Takada, and Lagilava are Fedor’s first 3 pro fights, and he fought them in a 5 month span. We’re going to accuse Fedor of can crushing in his first 3 pro fights?


It’s also dishonest to use records at the end of a fighter’s career rather than at the time Fedor fought them. For example, Zulu was 7-0-1 when he fought Fedor. I agree Zulu isn’t great talent, but is Fedor supposed to psychically know that Zulu would lose a bunch of fights in the future??

Speaking of Zulu btw, that list says “Zulu (9-9)”—- which is actually not a record Zulu has ever had in his career. I have no idea where that dude is pulling that shit from. There are a couple of instances of that on the list, where the records just seem to be flat out wrong.

Werdum outstruck Cain, gave Overeem issues and beat Hunt and many others standing so while he lost to Overeem. Overeem is the superior striker to Werdum

Yes. As is Fedor.

 

[Sweater of AV]

GOAT

 

[SuperBadAzz]

Yea the sport is so "rapidly evolved" that old ass 56 year old Glover fought for a title twice and was champion in the last two years and journey man Jan Blachowizc was champion and a title contender in the last 2 years.

The sport is so "evolved" that Derrick Lewis and Tai Tuivasa are top 5 HWs and Derrick Lewis fought for a title twice in this era. What would Fedor ever do in this super "evolved" era Lol. Give me a break UFC shill..

As far as Michael Jordan goes Ray Allen who played against Jordan and played with LeBron in Miami claims that Jordan is the best player ever, and yes, better than LeBron.

Cringe "evolution" nerds don't have the same experience to form their opinion.

The inconvenient truth, that I know you will vehemently deny, is that any version of Fedor would lose to all of the guys you are making fun of. Derrick Lewis puts Fedor’s light out, and he’s not even close to the skill level of the current day top tier.

 

[BFoe]

But also he beat many MWs and LHWs

1) 227lb Sonnen a career MW who bulked up to the size of a large LHW
2) Matt Lindland
3) Egidijus Valavičius weighed under 220lbs
4) Coleman 232lbs
5) Babalu like 220lbs?
6) Randleman sub 233lbs
7) Tsuyoshi Kosaka 225lbs

Adding them up that is 20 wins vs cans or smaller opponents. Plus the loss to a barely 200lb Hendo

These are things that cannot be ignored

I’m gonna take aim at this too.
This is Fedor vs Babalu

It’s hardly an example of Fedor beating up on some poor, smaller opponent.

Randleman? He’s a former UFC HW champ, was coming off a KO win over Cro Cop, and there was a measly 9 pound weight difference.

Coleman is likewise a former UFC champ and PRIDE GP champ, and Fedor outweighed him by only 6.5 lbs.

This is the kind of stuff we’re finding fault with? Like Fedor is some weight bully for outweighing some guys by a few pounds? These differences happen at HW all the time.

 

[BFoe]

The inconvenient truth, that I know you will vehemently deny, is that any version of Fedor would lose to all of the guys you are making fun of. Derrick Lewis puts Fedor’s light out, and he’s not even close to the skill level of the current day top tier.

I don’t think Lewis would beat Fedor right now, let alone prime.

 

[Bob Sagat]

2004 is nuts, with Fedor fighting Coleman, Randleman, Ogawa and Nog on the same night, and then Nog again as the previous fight was an NC.

legendary

 

[SuperBadAzz]

I don’t think Lewis would beat Fedor right now, let alone prime.

I’m sure you thought Fedor would beat Mitrione and that was 5.5 years ago.

 

[BFoe]

I’m sure you thought Fedor would beat Mitrione and that was 5.5 years ago.

What a weird example to choose, considering Mitrione iced Lewis in Lewis’s prime.
And no, I actually didn’t make a prediction on Fedor-Mitrione. It’s the one fight in Fedor’s return that I didn’t make a prediction on.

A few years ago, Lewis vs Fedor would be a crapshoot. Now? Fedor has fought close to the same level for several years while Lewis is 1-3 in his last 4 (the lone win being the not-very-good a Chris Daukaus), all losses by stoppage to strikes, 2 of the 3 in the first round. He’s heading towards Bob Sapp territory, and current Fedor would plank him.

@Fioretti
I see you down there liking his post
How’d your deep dive into JDS’s resume go? Ready to admit that Fedor had more ranked wins in his first decade than JDS did in his whole career?

 

[djacobox372]

Definitely GOAT at hw, top 5 P4P

When he beat Nog and Crocop they were legit the best competition in the world at the time.

Tim and Arlovski were legit top 3 in the world when Fedor flattened them.

No other HW has that many dominate wins over top opponents.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Even if you want to take away all the cans Fedor crushed he still has 6-7 wins over legitimately ranked and reputable HWs who were still in their primes. Thats Nog 2x, CC, Tim, AA, Mark Hunt, Herring, Rogers. As I look through the history of the HW division Im struggling to find another HW champion with that many wins against ranked fighters still in their primes. Nog is the only that might be able to match that.

Stipe has exactly 1 win against a ranked HW still in their primes and that's Francis. Francis has 4 maybe 5 tops. Cain and JDS has 4 or 5 tops. Cormier has 3 or 4. CC has 4 tops. Barnett has 4 or 5. Werdum has a handful. And if were going to insist on counting wins against old and washed up former champions Fedor has as few of those as well.

No matter how you slice it Fedor's resume still to this day comes out on top when it comes to HW.

So Rodgers and Sylvia were better wins for Fedor than any of DC, Reem, JDS, or Werdum were for Stipe?

 

[OneOfOne]

So Rodgers and Sylvia were better wins for Fedor than any of DC, Reem, JDS, or Werdum were for Stipe?

Rogers, no. Tim was on par or better.

Just a reminder were talking about 39yr old Werdum, 40yr old Cormier, punch drunk JDS, and Overeem with 11 KO losses on his resume.

 

[Fioretti]

What a weird example to choose, considering Mitrione iced Lewis in Lewis’s prime.
And no, I actually didn’t make a prediction on Fedor-Mitrione. It’s the one fight in Fedor’s return that I didn’t make a prediction on.

A few years ago, Lewis vs Fedor would be a crapshoot. Now? Fedor has fought close to the same level for several years while Lewis is 1-3 in his last 4 (the lone win being the not-very-good a Chris Daukaus), all losses by stoppage to strikes, 2 of the 3 in the first round. He’s heading towards Bob Sapp territory, and current Fedor would plank him.

@Fioretti
I see you down there liking his post
How’d your deep dive into JDS’s resume go? Ready to admit that Fedor had more ranked wins in his first decade than JDS did in his whole career?

I still haven't looked, to be honest. Your statement is untrue either way. I saw you say 11 top 10s for Fedro, but we both know it's only 10 if you include both Randleman and Hunt.

I've been super busy, so I haven't had a chance to dig in. JDS has the superior resume either way, my friend. No mad.

 

[icemun]

Hope you realize that's Fedor slipping dodging a punch. It was a wild brawl. Fedor actually dropped Hendo, this pic was a miss.

 

[MartinGibson86]

Rogers, no. Tim was on par or better.

Just a reminder were talking about 39yr old Werdum, 40yr old Cormier, punch drunk JDS, and Overeem with 11 KO losses on his resume.

JDS was 33 , just schooled big ben, then won his next 3. ReReem was on a 6 fight streak then won his next 2. Werdum and DC were the defending champ.

Just a reminder, Couture was 44 when he mollywhopped timmy.

Sylvia never won a meaningful fighf after Fedor and dropped 2 of 3 prior.


You guys are ynbelievable lol

Sylvia better rhan jds or reem??? goddamn

Timmybetter than the champs in 2016 and 2019??? Ok dude

 

[MartinGibson86]

What a weird example to choose, considering Mitrione iced Lewis in Lewis’s prime.
And no, I actually didn’t make a prediction on Fedor-Mitrione. It’s the one fight in Fedor’s return that I didn’t make a prediction on.

A few years ago, Lewis vs Fedor would be a crapshoot. Now? Fedor has fought close to the same level for several years while Lewis is 1-3 in his last 4 (the lone win being the not-very-good a Chris Daukaus), all losses by stoppage to strikes, 2 of the 3 in the first round. He’s heading towards Bob Sapp territory, and current Fedor would plank him.

@Fioretti
I see you down there liking his post
How’d your deep dive into JDS’s resume go? Ready to admit that Fedor had more ranked wins in his first decade than JDS did in his whole career?

A lhw ufc washout ko'd current Fedor with a fucking jab...


Beasts recent losses are to young hw killers...hed fuckin decapitate the guy who's been fighting chael, mir, rampage and getting ko'd by fucking lhw jabs


unbelievable lol gane, pavlovich, and tai as indicators of a fight with current fedor?!!! wow


...and compared to sapp for losing to those guys lol

 

[MartinGibson86]

I don’t think Lewis would beat Fedor right now, let alone prime.

Bader ko'd him with a jab.


Fabio Maldonado faceplanted him and sent him stumbling like a drunk.

Bader might be a top 20 ufc hw and maldo is a career lhw jobber

 

[Reffson]

At a moment in time, a moment that lasted around 5 years, he would have defeated any man on Earth in a fight. That's why he is The GOAT.
Fin

 

[Reffson]

Bader ko'd him with a jab.


Fabio Maldonado faceplanted him and sent him stumbling like a drunk.

Bader might be a top 20 ufc hw and maldo is a career lhw jobber

Joe Louis got KO'd by Marciano later in his career also. Guess that makes him an overrated scrub. Right? Here's the thing about people like you. You have no ability to judge talent, or, your ability to judge talent is tainted by your own biases. I almost always rooted against Fedor in his prime, but that doesn't stop me from acknowledging the fact he was the best. Now I actually like him. He's been nothing but professional his whole career, and unlike Khabib, he didn't quit in his prime. He won some big fights well after his prime. Class dismissed dummy.

 

[BFoe]

I still haven't looked, to be honest. Your statement is untrue either way. I saw you say 11 top 10s for Fedro, but we both know it's only 10 if you include both Randleman and Hunt.

I've been super busy, so I haven't had a chance to dig in. JDS has the superior resume either way, my friend. No mad.

Why would I be mad about being right?
We can call it 10 if it makes you feel better. I wish I had never shown you the MMANews ranking for Fujita, you about had an existential crisis that day <45>

JDS is top 5 HW all time, no doubt.
Ranked wins? Fedor has more.
Title wins? Fedor has more.
Title defenses? Fedor has several more.

Fedor’s resume is superior to JDS’s, and it’s even not close honestly.

 

[Reffson]

Why would I be mad about being right?
We can call it 10 if it makes you feel better. I wish I had never shown you the MMANews ranking for Fujita, you about had an existential crisis that day <45>

JDS is top 5 HW all time, no doubt.
Ranked wins? Fedor has more.
Title wins? Fedor has more.
Title defenses? Fedor has several more.

Fedor’s resume is superior to JDS’s, and it’s even not close honestly.

JDS was fairly one-dimensional, especially for a Brazilian fighter. In his prime he had great hands, plenty of power, and decent movement. Fedor had ALL of these things, plus great takedowns, grappling ability, and submissions. His technical abilities were vast, beyond everybody else's, which is why GSP called him the best.