Favorite Karate style?

[Vil7]

I enjoy all forms of karate, and long walks on the beach.

Vil7

 

[ChachiKiller]

I dont know karate, but I know carazy

I caught the reference. Most other doggers are in their teens.

 

[lightw8]

this question may sound hokey to most, but i still wanted to get honest feedback. I quit training standup a few years ago after i found out i had bulging discs in my neck. I loved training Sanshou, but I just didn't want to keep worrying about taking headshots, and stuck to grappling, which ive now taken a year long break from as well. I was casually considering kyokushin, as I know they don't allow head punches in tourney so correct me if Im wrong, but I assume they train them less in sparring leaving me to worry about just headkicks. Ive always admired kyokushin, and didnt realize that Miura dojo kinda nearby was KK. I'm an old man now- 34 with a busted up body, but i miss training and feel that KK would definitely reinstall some toughness back in me albeit may be a long road for that.

Anyone think it could be a good idea?

 

[KarateStylist]

I enjoy all forms of karate, and long walks on the beach.

Vil7

I caught the reference. Most other doggers are in their teens.

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^^^Jukai can lend me a hand....

KarateStylist

 

[DivineComedy]

Shit. His dubs are gone?

 

[KarateStylist]

Bump.

Anybody ever train in this art [Tang Soo Do.]? I'm looking for some input from folks about their experiences with it. All I can really gather is it's Tae Kwon Do without being "pussified". Am I wrong? The web offers not much more than the history of the art.

^^^An interesting thumbnail on Tang Soo Do.

I trained in Tang Soo Do for several months. I have also trained in Tae Kwon Do (two different schools), Aikido, Jiu Jitsu, and law enforcement combat techniques. I'm not an expert in any of these by any means, but I've experienced all of them for at least a minimum of several months each.

What I was told by my Tang Soo Do trainers was that many years ago in Korea they didn't have a national fighting art. As the country searched for one, Tae Kwon Do and Tang Soo Do developed into eventual front runners to be the "national fighting art". Tae Kwon Do eventually won out. The masters of Tang Soo Do looked to spread their art elsewhere. So they brought it to other countries like the United States.

Tang Soo Do teachers tend to be "closer to the tree" as my teacher used to say. They have less degrees of separation from the creator of the original art than many other forms.

In all honesty, I didn't find a huge difference between Tang Soo Do and Tae Kwon Do at the lower levels. The strikes were generally the same with small variations that you might find between different schools or different masters. Maybe at the higher levels the techniques start to diverge?

Remember, people bash on Tae Kwon Do a lot as an ineffective martial art. The base of the art can teach good fundamental kicking and punching. We have some Tae Kwon Do black belts that do well on our local mixed martial art scene (obviously they have all the other 'required' training, wrestling, jiu-jitsu, etc).

All those jumping kicks that people bash on today were actually effective and useful... decades and centuries ago. They used them as a defense to knock opposing warriors off of horses. Not so useful today, but useful back then. They just don't tell you that in Tae Kwon Do school. They tend to be more for flash than effect today.

If you're looking for a useful striking art, go for boxing, kickboxing, or Muy Thai. If you're just looking for something different than the traditional Karate, Kung Fu, or Tae Kwon Do schools, Tang Soo Do may sound different, but a lot of it is the same stuff. My master also used to say, "There are only so many ways you can punch and kick a person."

The two Tang Soo Do schools I attended (same masters, different locations) were not as bad as some of the black belt factories you see out there today, like United Studios of Self Defense or West Coast Tae Kwon Do where I'm from. But it's not going to feel a whole lot different. I got lucky and found a master that had professional fight experience and was a black belt in multiple different arts. If you're looking for an 'authentic' martial arts feel, I'd say go that route. It's just harder to find because it isn't advertised.

Hopefully that helps.

The blued portion is the big advantage to TSD over the more sport-oriented karate styles.... IMHO. Thinking of a vid to put up....

The green highlight is a nifty sounding principle that really doesn't shed any light on the complexities of proper karate practice. In the right context, can be helpful when those are 'overworking' the situation. Too often used, an excuse, to explain away how to do karate mentally instead of natural athletics so many are drawn to in fighting.

KarateStylist

 

[Bay Area]

Bump.

^^^An interesting thumbnail on Tang Soo Do.

The blued portion is the big advantage to TSD over the more sport-oriented karate styles.... IMHO. Thinking of a vid to put up....

The green highlight is a nifty sounding principle that really doesn't shed any light on the complexities of proper karate practice. In the right context, can be helpful when those are 'overworking' the situation. Too often used, an excuse, to explain away how to do karate mentally instead of natural athletics so many are drawn to in fighting.

KarateStylist

Lol at this :icon_lol:. Quoting a post made years ago about Tang Soo Do so you can have a conversation piece. No one posted about TSD in this thread. There is no user named "Red Harvest" here. Yet you search for past post about TSD so you can build on that post with your ramblings

 

[The Enigma]

Lol at this :icon_lol:. Quoting a post made years ago about Tang Soo Do so you can have a conversation piece. No one posted about TSD in this thread. There is no user named "Red Harvest" here. Yet you search for past post about TSD so you can build on that post with your ramblings

+1 for the truth.

 

[randompunch]

I, personally, don't care much for formal competitions. And I think, for myself, kata competitions make even less sense. That's for myself.

kata is a highly personal exercise, meant to develop heightened mental discipline. Kata, in it's true, intended form.... is mental training, not competing. The exception being that the kata competition is with oneself.... aka as Shadow boxing is to sport-fighting re the training application of the exercise.

Unlike the good physical form that SummerStriker was putting up in his shadow boxing vids, kata is first about exercising the mind's control over the body. Of course that's kata in it's pure form. Karate kata starts out physical... the only initial mental part is learning the steps....

Once the steps (and the physical techniques are learned), however, that's where kata departs from boxing science, literally kata leaves boxing in the dust, mentally....

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I endorse kata competition by the karate organizations.

However, most all kata demonstrators are high on the physical end, to the point of athletics, acrobatics, complex moves; the mental discipline of strong intention & concentration is typically not demonstrated.

Mental discipline is the weapon that can beat Jones.... Shadow boxing is useless training against Jones....

KarateStylist

I agree. I really enjoy kata, but at first I utterly hated it because I simply did not understand the potential and meaning behind it. Kata is really a priceless tool that can be used in and out of martial arts.

 

[KarateStylist]

I agree. I really enjoy kata, but at first I utterly hated it because I simply did not understand the potential and meaning behind it. Kata is really a priceless tool that can be used in and out of martial arts.

Where Ya Been? And are you aware you are posting @ Sherdog???

Still waiting for someone, I'd luv to see Discipulus, walk me {try to} through a karate 1-step. =P

KarateStylist

 

[shorinryu86]

Okinawan Karate styles like Shorin Ryu, Goju-Ryu and Uechi Ryu.

 

[shorinryu86]

Shorin Ryu Karate.