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Mentally will Matt Brown to stop of course. Teh mental discipline in this one is strong!

^^^^I want to add, and I did indicate Matt Brown is a true professional fighter in my post above.

In terms of mental discipline, I would characterize Matt Brown as a very determined fighter, MMA would say, "heart."

The mental discipline I have, refers to a mental skill set of being able to think, including determination, about doing the right thing @ the right time, with your mind completely engaging your body into those actions....

WB, Running around in spandex punching and kicking focus mitts only begins to address mentally disciplined fighting skill. Not fruitful for an experienced karate striker.... BASIC KUMITE WISE, Tang Soo Do mommy and her 1-steps are the way to go.... :icon_surp

Incidently, karate detractors, I thought the Matt Brown win was a great example of why the favorite karate @ Sherdog should be "MMA." :wink:


KarateStylist
 
So when you've knocked Matt Brown, you know--the guy with the excellent chin and recovery ability--how do you plan to prevent him from taking you down with him? Because simply standing over someone and throwing a series of reverse punches is often not going to end a fight, especially against a competent wrestler, especially especially when you are not also a competent wrestler, which you are not.

So wait. The issue with focus mitts is that everyone using them already has good striking, and so their time would be better spent doing other things? Doesn't that mean that you, as someone with (a little bootleg quotechopping here): "really good skills," should stop focusing on doing one-step kumites and instead focus on some other, undeveloped aspect of fighting?

So again. You expect to one-shot KO Matt Brown (nickname "the Immortal"--relevance of that fact up to you) before he has a single chance to shoot on you, someone with no takedown defense to speak of. I mean, have you seen UFC 1? Because you should really watch it. It's not that a grappler will always beat a striker. But a seasoned vet with both passable grappling and striking will always beat a seventeen year-old green belt in Tang Soo Do.

I would literally pay a considerable amount of money to see your version of mental discipline (read: delusional) against Matt Brown's actual mental discipline. I know that doing nothing but one-step "sparring" with predetermined outcomes can give you an inflated sense of your own skills. So I encourage you to once, just once, step into the ring with a fighter with a similar number of years of experience to yourself (presumably 1/2 of one year), but who spars. Even someone who only spars medium contact will do. I think you'll find that the term "mental discipline" becomes quite hilarious when faced with actual fighting discipline. You know, the kind that knows what a punch feels like, and knows how to react to someone who actually plans on hurting you.

Your mental discipline is strong enough that I'm sure simply trying contact sparring won't destroy your worldview or anything, so in fact this is a way to prove how mentally disciplined you really truly are.

Make sure to tape it!
 
So when you've knocked Matt Brown, you know--the guy with the excellent chin and recovery ability--how do you plan to prevent him from taking you down with him? Because simply standing over someone and throwing a series of reverse punches is often not going to end a fight, especially against a competent wrestler, especially especially when you are not also a competent wrestler, which you are not.

So wait. The issue with focus mitts is that everyone using them already has good striking, and so their time would be better spent doing other things? Doesn't that mean that you, as someone with (a little bootleg quotechopping here): "really good skills," should stop focusing on doing one-step kumites and instead focus on some other, undeveloped aspect of fighting?

So again. You expect to one-shot KO Matt Brown (nickname "the Immortal"--relevance of that fact up to you) before he has a single chance to shoot on you, someone with no takedown defense to speak of. I mean, have you seen UFC 1? Because you should really watch it. It's not that a grappler will always beat a striker. But a seasoned vet with both passable grappling and striking will always beat a seventeen year-old green belt in Tang Soo Do.

I would literally pay a considerable amount of money to see your version of mental discipline (read: delusional) against Matt Brown's actual mental discipline. I know that doing nothing but one-step "sparring" with predetermined outcomes can give you an inflated sense of your own skills. So I encourage you to once, just once, step into the ring with a fighter with a similar number of years of experience to yourself (presumably 1/2 of one year), but who spars. Even someone who only spars medium contact will do. I think you'll find that the term "mental discipline" becomes quite hilarious when faced with actual fighting discipline. You know, the kind that knows what a punch feels like, and knows how to react to someone who actually plans on hurting you.

Your mental discipline is strong enough that I'm sure simply trying contact sparring won't destroy your worldview or anything, so in fact this is a way to prove how mentally disciplined you really truly are.

Make sure to tape it!
+1 I completely agree but didnt feel like writing so much.
 
Kyokushin because I am a kyokushin karateka however if Kyokushin didn't exist or wasn't in the UK - I would do Uechi-ryu, I have alot of respect of Uechi ryu & it's my favourite karate style after kyokushin - I am a fan of naha-te styles tbh - I've never been a fan of tomari-te or shuri-te.

Imagine an Uechi school that incorporated the liveness and cardio that make KK uniquely strong...
 
I like Goju and KK
 
Ever notice, following your obligatory bashing of me, other posters everyone lauds pick up my points and incorporate them into karate / striking threads??? Now that's an atrocity.... :icon_lol:

Name every poster that your posts have helped, please. I can count zero.
 
It's a test of mental discipline to keep from shouting at KarateStylist every time he posts. So perhaps he's teaching us in his own special way.
 
Haha :) That wasn't bad.

KS, maybe you should quit Tang Soo Do and just become a weirdly charismatic cult-leader instead.

And by that I mean, maybe you should open your own Tang Soo Do school?
 
If he open's a school, he would really be a cult-leader. What kind of people would try to learn how to fight in a school with no fighting at all?

Besides, he can't, since he's a begginer with a low level belt in his style.
 
1. So when you've knocked Matt Brown, you know--the guy with the excellent chin and recovery ability--how do you plan to prevent him from taking you down with him?

2. Because simply standing over someone and throwing a series of reverse punches is often not going to end a fight, especially against a competent wrestler, especially especially when you are not also a competent wrestler, which you are not.

^^^You're in a fight and you're slipping dude....

1. I guess the trick is to hit hard.... if you don't have confidence in yourself... that's your problem....

2. If you say so. I can't think of anything to add except you're obviously hung up on convention if you think the only karate punches to throw are the reverse variety. Highlights you're lack of understanding of traditional karate.... karate punches don't work, blah, blah, etc....
1. So wait. The issue with focus mitts is that everyone using them already has good striking, and so their time would be better spent doing other things?

2. Doesn't that mean that you, as someone with (a little bootleg quotechopping here): "really good skills," should stop focusing on doing one-step kumites and instead focus on some other, undeveloped aspect of fighting?

1. "So wait,"--I lvu eet. It's no wonder your karate training has failed you; you're incapable of keeping statements in context. Can't imagine how bad you've mauled karate principles....

2. See 1. above. What's the context of my statement? Even the black-belt tournament competitor @ my dojang who uses boxing and has used the boxing training to outfight other TSD tournament competitors, knows why I do the 1-steps, which he does also.

He's a young man in his mid-twenties and he was able to articulate the philosophy to me in two sentences--yet a Sherdog pro such as yourself and contact fighter & trainer can't??? Says it all....
1. So again. You expect to one-shot KO Matt Brown (nickname "the Immortal"--relevance of that fact up to you) before he has a single chance to shoot on you, someone with no takedown defense to speak of. I mean, have you seen UFC 1? Because you should really watch it. It's not that a grappler will always beat a striker. But a seasoned vet with both passable grappling and striking will always beat a seventeen year-old green belt in Tang Soo Do.

"So again," (another great comeback :)). We're getting kinda heavy here....

Guess I'm sunk then. You forget, I'm almost undefeated amongst my local clubs. Of course the few "experts" such as my 1st TMA instructor, don't bother sparring with me because it would be a waste of time. They're doing the foundational training as I am.... I'm trying to catch up to their level....
2. I know that doing nothing but one-step "sparring" with predetermined outcomes can give you an inflated sense of your own skills. So I encourage you to once, just once, step into the ring with a fighter with a similar number of years of experience to yourself (presumably 1/2 of one year), but who spars. Even someone who only spars medium contact will do.

3. I think you'll find that the term "mental discipline" becomes quite hilarious when faced with actual fighting discipline. You know, the kind that knows what a punch feels like, and knows how to react to someone who actually plans on hurting you.

1. Now we're getting somewhere. I've already accomplished the black-belt level of skill. Now it's my turn to coach. I'd consider a highly-paid coaching contract.... My advice to you though, is that you'd be wasting your money and my time....

2. Well, now we know that you know everything.... And unlike focus mitts which are held passively or maybe moved around in pre-determined settings.... :icon_lol: The first thing you need to do is stop contradicting yourself in your haste to post copy.... It's ok if you don't understand 1-steps, most karateka don't either....

3. I have, unfortunately had a few full contact bouts, with pissed off sore-losers like yourself.... They all retreated or quit fighting.... The last one I caused enough pain that person literally dropped their hands in front of me & conceded....

If you don't understand how karate instills strength and the ability to utilize body power for fighting without having to go, going around beating on other humans, my recommendation to you is to sit out traditional karate. Take a break....

Stick with your Muay thai, which as we've seen against Machida, has been effective @the UFC championship level....
Your mental discipline is strong enough that I'm sure simply trying contact sparring won't destroy your worldview or anything, so in fact this is a way to prove how mentally disciplined you really truly are.

Make sure to tape it!

The question is, "...is your mental discipline strong enough?" again, I'm undefeated @ my current dojang including instructors.... perhaps 1 could beat me on a bad day.
I don't do full contact. I am prepared to do full contact. If that's over your head, well.... VVVV
It's a test of mental discipline to keep from shouting at KarateStylist every time he posts. So perhaps he's teaching us in his own special way.

KarateStylist
 
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If you don't do full-contact, then you're not undefeated. You've never had the option of either winning or being defeated. That's that.
 
Haha :) That wasn't bad.

KS, maybe you should quit Tang Soo Do and just become a weirdly charismatic cult-leader instead.

And by that I mean, maybe you should open your own Tang Soo Do school?

Naw, nobody would show up. :icon_cry2:D:redface:

On another note, GSP trainer, Firas Zahabi, is using WONDERBOY as a sparring partner for GSP against Condit @ UFC 154. Zahabi says like Condit, WONDERBOY is very versatile, can go orthodox or south paw. Note that's boxing lingo, not kempo terminology.... Can't wait to see Wonderboy next month....

edit: will rework with vid illustration.

KarateStylist
 
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If you don't do full-contact, then you're not undefeated. You've never had the option of either winning or being defeated. That's that.

"HENDO_COUSIN", don't you mean, "...KarateStylist abstains from full contact fighting; hence we can have no assurance from the record of full contact fighting, that KarateStylist would be undefeated in full contact fighting?"

You have confused application of power with the control of power, ...........saying one who has excellent control of power cannot apply it...? AND, that's that.... :)

KarateStylist
 
It's not about power. It's about real-world application. I believe that you can hit hard and accurately, but you've only ever done this with the assurance that your opponent is not going to hit you hard and accurately in return, or at the same time, or before you have a chance to do it yourself.

It's hard to believe in this post-UFC 1 era that a martial artist can be successful in a real-life (read: full contact) situation without preparing for the actualities of a real-life fight. This includes knowing what full contact feels like, and knowing how you yourself react to being hit. Trust me, without training under those conditions, you will not react well when those conditions are thrust upon you. That's why I encourage you to just try some full contact sparring. Because if you've never been hit in the face, and then had to continue fighting afterward, you really don't know what fighting is like. You're deluding yourself if you think that a person who doesn't spar at all can defeat any kind of opponent with absolute certainty.

And the fact that you claim to have the key to personally defeating a veteran of the UFC only goes to cement my claims. You're fooling yourself, dude. Go get hit in the face, and then tell me how undefeated you are. Or try to stop someone from hitting you in the face when they have every intention of doing so. I promise that you will not find success in that endeavor.
 
It's not about power. It's about real-world application. I believe that you can hit hard and accurately, but you've only ever done this with the assurance that your opponent is not going to hit you hard and accurately in return, or at the same time, or before you have a chance to do it yourself.

It's hard to believe in this post-UFC 1 era that a martial artist can be successful in a real-life (read: full contact) situation without preparing for the actualities of a real-life fight. This includes knowing what full contact feels like, and knowing how you yourself react to being hit. Trust me, without training under those conditions, you will not react well when those conditions are thrust upon you. That's why I encourage you to just try some full contact sparring. Because if you've never been hit in the face, and then had to continue fighting afterward, you really don't know what fighting is like. You're deluding yourself if you think that a person who doesn't spar at all can defeat any kind of opponent with absolute certainty.

And the fact that you claim to have the key to personally defeating a veteran of the UFC only goes to cement my claims. You're fooling yourself, dude. Go get hit in the face, and then tell me how undefeated you are. Or try to stop someone from hitting you in the face when they have every intention of doing so. I promise that you will not find success in that endeavor.
Discipulus 2
KS -2
He did not even refute ur points. Correction, he did. But they were all gibberish. KS bullshitted and only pointed out ur grammar? Lol... =__= wtf is he even doing? His arguments are slipping and sense of ego is inflating. +1 for Discipulus
 
It's not about power. It's about real-world application.... I believe that you can hit hard and accurately, but you've only ever done this with the assurance that your opponent is not going to hit you hard and accurately in return, or at the same time, or before you have a chance to do it yourself.

It's hard to believe in this post-UFC 1 era that a martial artist can be successful in a real-life (read: full contact) situation without preparing for the actualities of a real-life fight. This includes knowing what full contact feels like, and knowing how you yourself react to being hit. Trust me, without training under those conditions, you will not react well when those conditions are thrust upon you. That's why I encourage you to just try some full contact sparring. Because if you've never been hit in the face, and then had to continue fighting afterward, you really don't know what fighting is like. You're deluding yourself if you think that a person who doesn't spar at all can defeat any kind of opponent with absolute certainty.

And the fact that you claim to have the key to personally defeating a veteran of the UFC only goes to cement my claims. You're fooling yourself, dude. Go get hit in the face, and then tell me how undefeated you are. Or try to stop someone from hitting you in the face when they have every intention of doing so. I promise that you will not find success in that endeavor.

Watched your sparring vid--gave me some great insight to the man.

You believe in aggression and because of that you are afraid. Since you can not control your fear, the emotion of getting hurt, you presume no one can. You convinced yourself or have always believed, the only mental way to prepare for fear and pain is to experience fear and pain--to face it head on....

Moreover, I don't think you're capable of doing the analysis that traditional karate demands. The fact that so many agree with you only cements my claim that traditional karate requires a step-up in thinking.

According to you, a guy like Nick Daiz should clean everybody's clock. He's so fearsome and aggressive and can take punishement--your stated philosophy as to why I'm incompetent.... Yet, StrikingGuy just put up a post detailing how Diaz was thoroughly outclassed by Condit.

Guys like you don't listen (to countervailing views) until they are physically dominated, which is your goal--to dominate. I do my dominating at belt-rank tests, or when sparring partners get out of hand. I'll let getting punched in the face over and over to your training regimen.

KarateStylist
 
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