favorite armlock finish

[flikerstance]

when you have cross body armlock from mount no gi and they lock up with a rnc grip ect whats your fav way to break the hands

i like using the bolt cutter that renzo likes mostly i feel lots of people end up losing space here sadly due to not knowing what to do and forgetting to keep them tight with their knees pinched

 

[yetanother]

when you have cross body armlock from mount no gi and they lock up with a rnc grip ect whats your fav way to break the hands

i like using the bolt cutter that renzo likes mostly i feel lots of people end up losing space here sadly due to not knowing what to do and forgetting to keep them tight with their knees pinched

It's a bit crude way to do it but it's something I fear the most when on the receiving end, avoids just using strength to hold on (in the gi you can just grab anything for a temporary hold) while switching to a different grip which can happen with the fancy attacks.

 

[shunyata]

Best finish when they deathlock their grips in to block your armbar is the bicep slicer.

But I'm also fond of lower foot on far bicep to kick the lock off or transition into triangle with that near arm still tied up.

 

[RJ Green]

oil check

 

[rmongler]

You can just weave your chest side leg under his arms and your head side leg behind his head to transition into a triangle choke; then finish either choke or armbar or a combination thereof at greater leisure.

If you're dead-set on peeling out that arm, then, rather than just pulling on the arm, pull on his hand directly, in a simple gooseneck wristlock sort way; you have essentially the same pulling power either way, but in this case, much more concentrated on disrupting the weak points in his structure.

 

[flikerstance]

You can just weave your chest side leg under his arms and your head side leg behind his head to transition into a triangle choke; then finish either choke or armbar or a combination thereof at greater leisure.

If you're dead-set on peeling out that arm, then, rather than just pulling on the arm, pull on his hand directly, in a simple gooseneck wristlock sort way; you have essentially the same pulling power either way, but in this case, much more concentrated on disrupting the weak points in his structure.

reason id not use that is they have to come up for you to shoot for a triangle most who sit back with a rnc grip on their arm as you are trying t finish the lock yeah if they are able to come up sure going for a triangle is ideal for control as well but if they are insistent on keeping their head to the mat while trying to hitch hiker if you end up breaking their grip

i use to try to come up into a mounted triangle putting my foot through the arm but a good guy can scramble but and you lose everything so now anytime i get to a almost finishing position im only concentrating on finishing very fundamentally not taking any chances at all

 

[flikerstance]

Best finish when they deathlock their grips in to block your armbar is the bicep slicer.

But I'm also fond of lower foot on far bicep to kick the lock off or transition into triangle with that near arm still tied up.

i use to use this but i feel that at advanced levels you lose super good control of the arm when you go for the slicer and people go bat shit crazy to defend an armlock from that position

its one of those positions where if you give them an inch they r gonna take a mile

 

[shunyata]

i use to use this but i feel that at advanced levels you lose super good control of the arm when you go for the slicer and people go bat shit crazy to defend an armlock from that position

its one of those positions where if you give them an inch they r gonna take a mile

That's why I like to keep the arm and move into triangle mount from foot on bicep.

Then you can just finish straight, kimura, or mounted triangle choke.

 

[flikerstance]

That's why I like to keep the arm and move into triangle mount from foot on bicep.

Then you can just finish straight, kimura, or mounted triangle choke.

thats something id do in gym but in fights idk if id try it given they have great bridging ability there to scramble and can risk everything

 

[asian-glow]

Ive seen a lot of solutions to this. The most elegant I saw was a 10 second ig post from Dean Lister.

Imagine you are kimura gripping the arm you want to armbar. Dean maintains the thread thru the same arm but grips the other wrist. He removes his leg to strip the grip and goes back into armbar position. Brilliant.

 

[yetanother]

thats something id do in gym but in fights idk if id try it given they have great bridging ability there to scramble and can risk everything

Try the Roger finish. Doesn't give them scramble opportunity and it's super demoralizing when nothing happens and you just sit there and the pain gets worse.

 

[flikerstance]

Try the Roger finish. Doesn't give them scramble opportunity and it's super demoralizing when nothing happens and you just sit there and the pain gets worse.

looks nice ill give it a shot next time i go to a gym iv been on a arm lock kick with subs and u cant give up a single inch doing it to black belts

the last 2 years i really started to re evaluate my style to make sure i wasnt being to lose and to unsafe with certain attacks i stopped doing things that work good vs blues purples and made sure t be safer way i see it if im in top position and i go for a move thats even only 70% r so finishing rate i see that as a bad thing lots of guys in fights/ grappling tournaments end up losing due to a mistake where they were winning lol

especially bigger guys usually its who stays on top youll see guy pass guard on mount or side go for something fast and bottom guy scrambles out now hes on his back ect. sadly this happens a lotttt with the arm lock. the armlock is prob the most risky sub to hit from mount given you have to give up your top position to hit it vs a arm triangle ezeikel leg triangle ect .

so that said really means u gotta make sure your pressure control and technique is pin point perfect cause u give a guy an inch hes taking it all and you r gonna end up on bottom crazy when u think about it u go from legit dominating to losing in 1 tiny mistake. so i feel if u are gonna use armlocks u really gotta drill that technique more than anything

 

[yetanother]

looks nice ill give it a shot next time i go to a gym iv been on a arm lock kick with subs and u cant give up a single inch doing it to black belts

the last 2 years i really started to re evaluate my style to make sure i wasnt being to lose and to unsafe with certain attacks i stopped doing things that work good vs blues purples and made sure t be safer way i see it if im in top position and i go for a move thats even only 70% r so finishing rate i see that as a bad thing lots of guys in fights/ grappling tournaments end up losing due to a mistake where they were winning lol

especially bigger guys usually its who stays on top youll see guy pass guard on mount or side go for something fast and bottom guy scrambles out now hes on his back ect. sadly this happens a lotttt with the arm lock. the armlock is prob the most risky sub to hit from mount given you have to give up your top position to hit it vs a arm triangle ezeikel leg triangle ect .

so that said really means u gotta make sure your pressure control and technique is pin point perfect cause u give a guy an inch hes taking it all and you r gonna end up on bottom crazy when u think about it u go from legit dominating to losing in 1 tiny mistake. so i feel if u are gonna use armlocks u really gotta drill that technique more than anything

If they are going on top I like to under hook their leg.