Urban said:The nutrition of farmed fish is so bad that they color the flesh of the salmon before sending it to market. They do this because if they didn't it would be EXTREMELY light, I've heard almost white. What does the nutrition of an animals diet tell you about the quality of food it will be? a lot. Buy wild fish, wild game, grass fed cows, free-range chickens, etc. as often as you can.
Herculean said:you know mercury occurs naturally in the envirnoment right ?
BoxingFanNoMore said:So does arsenic, in fact most elements on the periodic table of elements occur naturally in the enviroment. What do you think is going to make up the enviroment, synthetic rubbers?
Doesnt mean you want to eat them. Uranium, occurs naturally, in fact there was most likely a naturally occuring fission reactor at one time.
The mercury that naturally occurs in the enviroment isnt the problem for the most part, a form of mercury called methyl mercury, which can be made by bacteria, which moves it way up the food chain. That is what is to be concerned about, when looking at mercury poisoning in fish.
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BoxingFanNoMore said:Oh, yeah awhile back there was a thread that involved organic labeling. In which I stated that the FDA, has no definition of organic or natural. But the USDA, does have some guidelines on what determines organic grown crops, and livestock. And Organic doesnt mean wild, or grassfed. However, there are no organic standards for seafood, of any kind. So, you can label fish organic, as long as its not the USDA official label.
I dont know how many times people have told me, I only buy organic fish. I say what, they say yeah I buy fish from my grocery store that only sells organic products.
This is supposed to change sometime next year, but if you search for that other thread. You can read the problems with the USDA's guidelines.
BoxingFanNoMore said:Oh well, it wont be to long before we have artifically grown meat.
Herculean said:i was just trying to say the trace ammounts in fish are not a big problem
shit dont you think we would all be dead by now if it was .
like all foods have trace amounts of minerals or metals etc , its just when people start to panic and say "stay away from fish its bad ! it has mercury ! , we might get sick !".....
Herculean said:i dont know anything about USDA , i have never seen "organic fish" labled in australian supermarkets , only organic fruit and vegetables.
i recall something in that said , for your soil to be classed as organic , it takes around 3 years .. thats in australia though
BoxingFanNoMore said:I like to think of future generations and the impact I have on them. Not just take confidence that past generations somehow managed to get up to this point.
Thankfully the problem isnt as bad as it once was, because people did start to panic. You do realize that there werent always laws protecting the enviroment, and that in the 1960's and 70's there were outbreaks of mercury poisoning, from eating fish and using methylmercury in pesticides. Leading to Deaths in many cases.
If we have trace amounts today, imagine what it was like in the 1960's and 70's. Then imagine what it would be like today if nobody gave a shit, and everybody said, we made it this far havent we.
I can remember growing up in Los Angeles, we use to have smog alerts. Then people started to panic, when you couldnt even go outside with out your eyes watering, and figured something isnt right here. I am kind of glad things have gotten a little better since then.
BoxingFanNoMore said:Yeah, thats kind of the problem, different countires have different standards.
Here in the US, it's pretty much no antibiotics, fertalizers, hormones, pesticides.
So the agricultural industry, decided just to genetically modify things, so they didnt need antibiotics and pesticides, and still label their prodcuts "organic". Which alot of countries weren't to thrilled about suppliers selling imported "organic" products, that just happen to be genetically modified.