Fantasy fight

[Niels]

Don’t shoot me if this was already posted

Who would win Klitschko (on the night of his fight vs AJ) or Wilder?

I would personally give Klitschko the upper hand. Wilder hasn’t fought alot of tall guys and Klitschko’s strong jab would keep Wilder busy. Which would eventually lead to a decision in favour of Klitschko

Klitschko was phenomenal that night (despite his age) and i know alot of fanboys will give me hate for saying he’d beat Wilder

So give me your opinion and based on which attributes/skills

 

[ArtemV]

I think Klitschko would stifle Wilder with his jab and straights; I would pick a prime Klitschko to dominate Wilder, but Wilder can catch him at any time he chooses to engage - scary but very winnable fight for Klitschko.

 

[Niels]

I think Klitschko would stifle Wilder with his jab and straights; I would pick a prime Klitschko to dominate Wilder, but Wilder can catch him at any time he chooses to engage - scary but very winnable fight for Klitschko.

I 100% agree, but Klitschko hasn’t looked as good as in the AJ-fight in a long time. So what exactly would you consider his prime?

 

[Jonny Ninja]

I’d favour wlad, but I’d also add that he’s a far tougher fight for wilder than AJ will be

 

[Niels]

I’d favour wlad, but I’d also add that he’s a far tougher fight for wilder than AJ will be

Not sure... hope AJ beats Wilder though...
I’d rather have a champ with technique

 

[BluntTrauma21]

Klitschko was phenomenal that night (despite his age) and i know alot of fanboys will give me hate for saying he’d beat Wilder

Niels, I take pride in being worldy like with geography and names and shit. Are you a Dane or Norwegian per chance? I'm guessing Danish but second would be Norwegian. If not I apologize for being ignorant.

Secondly I have to call you out on this sentence, esp the bolded. I and a few others are Wilder fanboys, but the whole knock on Wilder is that he has no fans, lol, so I have to take umbridge with that statement. Wlad fans are way more prevalent, not that he doesn't get his fair share of hate as well, but compared to Wilder he is a rockstar.

And he's bangin Hayden Panatierre [sp?] is Wlad's winning at life, i just wanted to mention that b/c she is super fine and unfortunately had to push one of his babies out, she's like 5' nothing and he's got those Ukrainian chernobyl genes. I hope the baby was more of a Hayden build and less of a Wlad build, at least for her sake. I'm hoping it's a giant version of Wlad except with a better chin and stamina. That kid would be close to unbeatable.

Anyway to answer your question, it's hard to say b/c AJ and Wilder have different styles but despite being a hugger of Deontay's I would favor him mostly b/c of his power and Wlad's chin not being what AJ's is.

When you watch that fight Wlad was so tentative after initially going for the kill b/c he was so afraid of gassing himself (a common theme from Wlad in the latter part of his career) that it allowed AJ to recover and I'd assume it would allow Wilder to recover as well. Wilder has a cannon for a right hand he might very well have been able to finish a wounded Wlad when AJ was not. The problem is Deontay obv gets wild at times and there's also a good chance Wlad caught him like he did with AJ. Problem is, as mentioned, Wlad isn't a guy who chases the kill that long so it gives the younger guys with less mileage a better chance to recover and get their shit together.

I'd favor Deontay but very slightly. I think that power in his right could end what AJ almost ended and I think Wlad's lack of going for the finish that hard and for a fairly short amount of time would allow Wilder to recover and get another chance just like AJ did.

 

[Niels]

Niels, I take pride in being worldy like with geography and names and shit. Are you a Dane or Norwegian per chance? I'm guessing Danish but second would be Norwegian. If not I apologize for being ignorant.

Secondly I have to call you out on this sentence, esp the bolded. I and a few others are Wilder fanboys, but the whole knock on Wilder is that he has no fans, lol, so I have to take umbridge with that statement. Wlad fans are way more prevalent, not that he doesn't get his fair share of hate as well, but compared to Wilder he is a rockstar.

And he's bangin Hayden Panatierre [sp?] is Wlad's winning at life, i just wanted to mention that b/c she is super fine and unfortunately had to push one of his babies out, she's like 5' nothing and he's got those Ukrainian chernobyl genes. I hope the baby was more of a Hayden build and less of a Wlad build, at least for her sake. I'm hoping it's a giant version of Wlad except with a better chin and stamina. That kid would be close to unbeatable.

Anyway to answer your question, it's hard to say b/c AJ and Wilder have different styles but despite being a hugger of Deontay's I would favor him mostly b/c of his power and Wlad's chin not being what AJ's is.

When you watch that fight Wlad was so tentative after initially going for the kill b/c he was so afraid of gassing himself (a common theme from Wlad in the latter part of his career) that it allowed AJ to recover and I'd assume it would allow Wilder to recover as well. Wilder has a cannon for a right hand he might very well have been able to finish a wounded Wlad when AJ was not. The problem is Deontay obv gets wild at times and there's also a good chance Wlad caught him like he did with AJ. Problem is, as mentioned, Wlad isn't a guy who chases the kill that long so it gives the younger guys with less mileage a better chance to recover and get their shit together.

I'd favor Deontay but very slightly. I think that power in his right could end what AJ almost ended and I think Wlad's lack of going for the finish that hard and for a fairly short amount of time would allow Wilder to recover and get another chance just like AJ did.

I’m Belgian actually, but Niels is a Norwegian and Dutch name so you weren’t wrong either thanks for the broad analysis BTW what i just don’t get is the (in my opinion) misconception that Wlad is chinny. Anyone that can recover from the uppercut AJ landed on him isn’t one bit chinny IMO.

I also think Wlad’s career speaks for itself his KO ratio busts the myth that he fights boring, only 3-4 fights in his career were a huggingfest, and hey whatever you gotta do to win...

 

[BluntTrauma21]

I’m Belgian actually, but Niels is a Norwegian and Dutch name so you weren’t wrong either thanks for the broad analysis BTW what i just don’t get is the (in my opinion) misconception that Wlad is chinny. Anyone that can recover from the uppercut AJ landed on him isn’t one bit chinny IMO.

I also think Wlad’s career speaks for itself his KO ratio busts the myth that he fights boring, only 3-4 fights in his career were a huggingfest, and hey whatever you gotta do to win...

Well you're right in the sense that Wlad isn't as chinny as advertised but he also doesn't exactly have a chin of steel, either. He also struggled with stamina issues throughout his career which is why, to address your second point about his ko ratio, he tended to fight a bit more cautiously in the latter part of his career.

1. Wlad's chin isn't that bad but it's not great either. Thing about Wlad is he would light ppl up earlier in his career, much more aggressive with his punch output and overall aggressiveness, but it would not only open him up for counters but also once his gas went he wouldn't be able to take the bigger shots like he might've been able to take or avoid if he wasn't so tired.

2. Wlad's ko ratio is extremely high, the knock on him is not that he can't finish but he tends to fight much more cautiously and make that ko somehow frustrating to watch b/c it seems to take so much longer than it should. For instance just two of several more examples: The Eddie Chambers and Jean Marc Mormeck fights come to mind off the top of my head. He could've easily wiped both of those two out early w/o any trouble but it took for him to wait until the last rd to take a small, super undersized hw in Chambers out, which he did with one punch and only after Manny Steward yelled at him to make a statement.

Again it was a similar deal with Mormeck where he had Mormeck almost out of there early but took an extra couple rds to get the finish b/c he didn't seem to realize just how over matched Jean Marc was at that time. And that was when Mormeck was super old and washed.

So yeah he gets ko's but it's frustrating to watch him take several rds longer than he should b/c he gunshy against a mortally wounded animal and is too reticent to pull the trigger. So you're right he ko'd guys but many times went about it in a more boring and cautious way than he should've to the point where his own trainer in Steward yelled at him in the corner on several different occassion b/c of his hesitancy to go for the kill.

Sorry for the long posts. I'm not good with conciseness.

 

[RawHawg]

I've always liked to think of what would have happened if Foreman fought Larry Holmes.

 

[randomg1t]

i think klitschko would drop him. styles make fights.