FALLOUT 4 Official Thread v.4: Jittery Jethead Edition

[Metal_Daze]

My guy wears baseball outfits for the +1 strength, idk if that applies

What are you still doing up, are you really in Scotland? I'm watching Rizin and I saw your post in my alerts, I'm stopping by before the next fight.

YES, Baseball suit works fine. You can weave it once you complete P.A.M.'s missions and it will become a 110/110 damage/energy resistance suit. You can wear your armor pieces over it: you will become nearly immortal if your END is high and you're lvl 50+.

Gotta go, here comes the opening bell.

 

[MacDuffle]

What are you still doing up, are you really in Scotland? I'm watching Rizin and I saw your post in my alerts, I'm stopping by before the next fight.

YES, Baseball suit works fine. You can weave it once you complete P.A.M.'s missions and it will become a 110/110 damage/energy resistance suit. You can wear your armor pieces over it: you will become nearly immortal if your END is high and you're lvl 50+.

Gotta go, here comes the opening bell.

Fuck yeah man I was watching Rizin, BT Sport got that streaming mastery

Stuck working stateside, at the moment. But Aberdeen born n bred

...clearing Nuka Bottling plant, and I blatantly lack the hacking skill necessary tae shut off the constant loudspeaker promotion loops. My head hurts

 

[Metal_Daze]

Fuck yeah man I was watching Rizin, BT Sport got that streaming mastery

Stuck working stateside, at the moment. But Aberdeen born n bred

...clearing Nuka Bottling plant, and I blatantly lack the hacking skill necessary tae shut off the constant loudspeaker promotion loops. My head hurts

I don't know where you are in the main story but can't you just go pick up Valentine and have him hack the terminals for you?

I presume you didn't free him since you reached Nuka World very early. I just picked up Travis and I'm ready to head to Nuka World with him and Cait. Now that you mention it, I might make a rapid stop at Vault 114 to free Nick and have him available when needed.

 

[MacDuffle]

I don't know where you are in the main story but can't you just go pick up Valentine and have him hack the terminals for you?

I presume you didn't free him since you reached Nuka World very early. I just picked up Travis and I'm ready to head to Nuka World with him and Cait. Now that you mention it, I might make a rapid stop at Vault 114 to free Nick and have him available when needed.

Figured Nick was a bit too much of a boy scout to complete the raider side missions with, especially once I agreed to install Raider settlements. I've heard he has some mixed moral reactions though, similar to MacCready (haven't taken MacCready anywhere, in any playthrough...)

Weirdly enough, Cait likes the idea of murdering settlements and replacing them with Raiders, which is some Stockholm-syndrome shiite considering her Slaver backstory. You'd think she'd have a problem with the Nuka Traders in collars, as well, or have something to say about recognizing the collars...missed dialogue opportunites all over the DLC.

F4 recorded unique companion reactions to the f*cking water fountain in Fallon's department store, but they couldn't be bothered to add companion reactions to the different Nuka gangs, any of the parks, etc. Sad.

*Edit:
I found the password for the World of Refreshment terminal, and it looks like there's nothing you can do to shut off the speaker system. As far as Nuka World terminal hacks, it looks like the most you'll get out of bringing Nick is Gang leader terminal entries, and loot in Nuka World Power Plant.

I want to bring Preston on my second playthrough, just to see how quickly it takes for him to turn hostile
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[Metal_Daze]

Figured Nick was a bit too much of a boy scout to complete the raider side missions with, especially once I agreed to install Raider settlements. I've heard he has some mixed moral reactions though, similar to MacCready (haven't taken MacCready anywhere, in any playthrough...)

Weirdly enough, Cait likes the idea of murdering settlements and replacing them with Raiders, which is some Stockholm-syndrome shiite considering her Slaver backstory. You'd think she'd have a problem with the Nuka Traders in collars, as well, or have something to say about recognizing the collars...missed dialogue opportunites all over the DLC.

F4 recorded unique companion reactions to the f*cking water fountain in Fallon's department store, but they couldn't be bothered to add companion reactions to the different Nuka gangs, any of the parks, etc. Sad.

*Edit:
I found the password for the World of Refreshment terminal, and it looks like there's nothing you can do to shut off the speaker system. As far as Nuka World terminal hacks, it looks like the most you'll get out of bringing Nick is Gang leader terminal entries, and loot in Nuka World Power Plant.

I want to bring Preston on my second playthrough, just to see how quickly it takes for him to turn hostile

Thanks, I will not bother with Valentine then: I don't need normal loot. I only pick up legendary stuff and ammo I need. Remember I only have 1 STR with this character. MacCreedy is badass but he has a weakness: helping kids and people in need. So he will support you killing people, even settler but he will frown if you refuse to help people who ask or demand money to do it. He's a living paradox since you must pay to hire him...

I get that it's hard for them to add new dialogues for DLC, especially for secondary characters. Fallon Store was done for Vanilla Fallout 4 but calling back voice actors to record additional lines is very complex when you have a timeline. Have you seen the list of voice actors for Fallout 4? It's like a whole page long with some medium-big names in there.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fallout_4_voice_actors

Haven't seen that many Star Trek actors since Dragon Age: Inquisition!

 

[MacDuffle]

Thanks, I will not bother with Valentine then: I don't need normal loot. I only pick up legendary stuff and ammo I need. Remember I only have 1 STR with this character. MacCreedy is badass but he has a weakness: helping kids and people in need. So he will support you killing people, even settler but he will frown if you refuse to help people who ask or demand money to do it. He's a living paradox since you must pay to hire him...

I get that it's hard for them to add new dialogues for DLC, especially for secondary characters. Fallon Store was done for Vanilla Fallout 4 but calling back voice actors to record additional lines is very complex when you have a timeline. Have you seen the list of voice actors for Fallout 4? It's like a whole page long with some medium-big names in there.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fallout_4_voice_actors

Haven't seen that many Star Trek actors since Dragon Age: Inquisition!

I've seen the massive cast and it's impressive, but I figure the companions are only so many in number

I've worked in

Spoiler

the voiceover industry before, and I could see one-liners being easily tuned up in studio from call-ins, basic "read at the beep" stuff that happens regularly when actors are coast-to-coast or overseas, but need to record online or advert bonus material

but I'll live without the reactions. If anything, RPG players should know what their companions would say in any given moment

Speaking of character lines, one of the synths had me dying when Travis critically wounded it, prompting it to declare:

"I am the victim of violence"


before exploding. That fucking slays.

 

[Metal_Daze]

I've seen the massive cast and it's impressive, but I figure the companions are only so many in number

I've worked in

Spoiler

the voiceover industry before, and I could see one-liners being easily tuned up in studio from call-ins, basic "read at the beep" stuff that happens regularly when actors are coast-to-coast or overseas, but need to record online or advert bonus material

but I'll live without the reactions. If anything, RPG players should know what their companions would say in any given moment

Speaking of character lines, one of the synths had me dying when Travis critically wounded it, prompting it to declare:

"I am the victim of violence"

before exploding. That fucking slays.

Why did you put your experience in spoilers, are you ashamed? Lucky you, that must be really cool. My voice is horrible so although I have a lot of mic experience (as a singer), I wouldn't make it. Also, I can't get rid of my French accent: I sound just like GSP but with more English vocabulary!

I guess the problem with voice actors is really a scheduling one: if you need to submit the recording on Tuesday but the actor is unavailable until Friday, you're fudged. Even with current technology, if the actor is unavailable, he's not going to run to be able to make it without an incentive. When you try to rush actors, they ask for bonus, gifts and re-negotiation. It can rapidly turn into a nightmare...

 

[MacDuffle]

Why did you put your experience in spoilers, are you ashamed? Lucky you, that must be really cool. My voice is horrible so although I have a lot of mic experience (as a singer), I wouldn't make it. Also, I can't get rid of my French accent: I sound just like GSP but with more English vocabulary!

I guess the problem with voice actors is really a scheduling one: if you need to submit the recording on Tuesday but the actor is unavailable until Friday, you're fudged. Even with current technology, if the actor is unavailable, he's not going to run to be able to make it without an incentive. When you try to rush actors, they ask for bonus, gifts and re-negotiation. It can rapidly turn into a nightmare...

I want a world populated exclusively by men, women, and children that all sound like GSP

I want a Fallout 4 mod where every single voice actor is replaced with GSP





"Commo'nwealth weaponreey, right here"

"Ai've got chems foer yu, all your chems for a low, low praice"

"Ay have nevarh seen dem so eagher tu die"

"Your son Shauwn es en ay sayfe playse. Ees wit' the Institute"

"Alloh. My name es Shaun"

"SHAWUN STAND DOUWN. Emer'gensy Protohcohl 31136aiyght"

"Ay am surry about that, but ee is expereymental technologie, you see"

 

[Metal_Daze]

Bad news général: Annoder settel-ment need your 'elp!

 

[MacDuffle]

"Commo'nwealth weaponreey, right here"

"Ai've got chems foer yu, all your chems for a low, low praice"

"Ay have nevarh seen dem so eagher tu die"

"Your son Shauwn es en ay sayfe playse. Ees wit' the Institute"

"Alloh. My name es Shaun"

"SHAWUN STAND DOUWN. Emer'gensy Protohcohl 31136aiyght"

"Ay am surry about that, but ee is expereymental technologie, you see"

 

[Drake]

Nuka World was sweet. Finished it up this weekend. Ended just how I wanted it too.


Also, I finally started Fallout Shelter today, hah. Hooked...

 

[MacDuffle]

Nuka World was sweet. Finished it up this weekend. Ended just how I wanted it too.


Also, I finally started Fallout Shelter today, hah. Hooked...

F*cking Bluestacks crashed so many times trying to play Shelter on my laptop, I can't get hurt again

So many hours poured into excellent Vault builds, only to get wiped time and time again. Hell, I even bothered to rename ever dweller, coordinate outfits/armor from floor to floor, room-to-room....

I remember one time some poor sap I sent out into the wastes with no level, no armor, no weaponry

Figured he'd die after a week or so, I'd revive him and haul him back in...

Came back 2 and a half weeks later and he was still out there, clinging to life in nothing but a lab coat, hauling ten times his body weight in guns

I named him Adam Savage

 

[Tamriel Terror]

Just finished Nuka World. Pretty solid DLC, i still liked Far Harbor a lot more, but it was fun exploring the different areas and finding the originator of Nuka Cola, but overall there was just as much if not more empty space outside of the ride areas than Far Harbor. I mean the entire left half of Nuka world has like 3 locations outside the parks. Just a baron land with no point

 

[Drake]

F*cking Bluestacks crashed so many times trying to play Shelter on my laptop, I can't get hurt again

So many hours poured into excellent Vault builds, only to get wiped time and time again. Hell, I even bothered to rename ever dweller, coordinate outfits/armor from floor to floor, room-to-room....

I remember one time some poor sap I sent out into the wastes with no level, no armor, no weaponry

Figured he'd die after a week or so, I'd revive him and haul him back in...

Came back 2 and a half weeks later and he was still out there, clinging to life in nothing but a lab coat, hauling ten times his body weight in guns

I named him Adam Savage

LOL Epic Adam...

What the shit is "Bluestacks" though? Should I be worried
Been playing it on my laptop & phone.

 

[MacDuffle]

LOL Epic Adam...

What the shit is "Bluestacks" though? Should I be worried
Been playing it on my laptop & phone.

Bluestacks is a magical Happiness-Dealing-Rainbow-Unicorn app player that lets Mac users play phone apps/games on their laptop at the expense of crashing and wiping out all your data every fifteenth Sunday

My Sim City Build-It metropolis....never forget the countless lives lost. Never Forget

Just finished Nuka World. Pretty solid DLC, i still liked Far Harbor a lot more, but it was fun exploring the different areas and finding the originator of Nuka Cola, but overall there was just as much if not more empty space outside of the ride areas than Far Harbor. I mean the entire left half of Nuka world has like 3 locations outside the parks. Just a barren land with no point

I just finished the Bradberton quest! Holy fucking shit.

I literally went against every evil impulse in my player character's body to

Spoiler

spare Bradberton's life, and leave him with Sierra Petrovita to talk to

just because the actress who does Sierra's voice-over is SO F*CKING GOOD that she makes your soul die a little if you don't do things her way. I can't say no to Sierra Petrovita.

So many fond memories of trying to complete her Fallout 3 Quest, only to Lose My Everloving Mind, say Fuck It and Burn Her House Down

My first reaction to seeing her pop up again in F4 was instantly

"Who....who let you live?"

 

[MacDuffle]

I thought I knew what terror was in F4 Survival, but now the fear of Cait and Travis glitching into high places at Settlements only to come crashing down on my Settlers/Raiders and sparking a deadly gunfight that kills everyone is my new greatest fear.

I'm now reduced to f*cking tiptoeing around my base with a pair of serial killer bodyguards just WAITING for the thinnest pretense to start decapitating everyone, as I quietly whisper "are you okay? do you need anything?"

Talk about the most useless dialogue option in-game. Just once, I want a new settler to reply

"I NEED FIFTY PURIFIED WATERS AND A GATLING LASER"

so I could shit my pants with joy

 

[MacDuffle]

Thread's pretty quiet but I get a kick out of updating, so what the hell:

Got back from Nuka World and returned to a humble retirement collecting cats/raiders, decorating my settlements, hopping in and out of armor to trade with my merchants and wotnot.

Something didn't feel right.

I had all the carry capacity that a player could ever want for Survival Mode, enough weapons in my inventory to prompt Diamond City guards teasing me with the classic

"geez pal, I like weapons as much as the next guy, but..."

...bullets were bouncing off my power-armored face

...mirelurks were clanging harmlessly against my tits like a bad porno

...raiders by the dozen were laying thick suppressing fire, only to scream horribly as Travis exploded their baggy heads

It didn't feel fair. It didn't feel like Survival, in any sense of the word.

So I built a raised platform, piled a bunch of containers and dumped 90% of all weapons, gear and aid. I fed my fusion cores to my now disturbing number of cats as they slowly waddled around, taking frequent naps on the bodies of raiders scattered across watery cages.

Ditched the power armor, pulled Cait out of hers. Equipped basic Military Fatigues and a small, single-ops loadout:

15 Purified Waters. 8 Noodle cups. 2 Antibiotics. 10 Stimpacks. 2 Refreshing Beverages.

44 cal. Revolver, 100 rounds
Operators Sniper Rifle, 50 rounds
Kneecapper's 10 mm. Hardened Pistol, 100 rounds
4 Fragmentation Grenades
2 Vertibird Signal Grenades (for insertion/extraction)

...rinse and repeat, for every mission.
If anything I'm trying to get my loadout even smaller, but Survival mode turns every enemy into a goddamned bullet sponge, so I had to prepare accordingly after one too many death to ammo running out

Cait's loadout wasn't much different. Despite the fact that she never eats (or POOPS) I packed her kit as realistically as I could muster:

15 Purified Waters, Grains, Stimpacks, etc.

50 cal. Sniper Rifle (though her drug-addled aim is crap)
44 cal. Revolver, 100 rounds

Travis refused to get out of his power armor, (though even if I managed to pickpocket his Fusion Core, I knew there was slim chance of getting him back in) so he plods along armed to the teeth. There's something hilarious about the game's most cowardly character running about in full Quantum Armor, still absolutely shitting his pants

I have to say, since reducing my character's build to a threadbare military build, I've never been this happy playing Survival since I first left the Vault. I watch my character's arms, legs, and torso explode, resolving to flank the enemy a bit more next time. Every step is danger, but now my character sprints like f*cking Peter Pan

If anyone is missing the excitement they first had playing Survival, I highly recommend outfitting your character like an old-school Seals unit.

Nothing but fatigues, face paint, a sidearm and long rifle. Semper Fi.

 

[Metal_Daze]

Thread's pretty quiet but I get a kick out of updating, so what the hell:

Got back from Nuka World and returned to a humble retirement collecting cats/raiders, decorating my settlements, hopping in and out of armor to trade with my merchants and wotnot.

Something didn't feel right.

I had all the carry capacity that a player could ever want for Survival Mode, enough weapons in my inventory to prompt Diamond City guards teasing me with the classic

...bullets were bouncing off my power-armored face

...mirelurks were clanging harmlessly against my tits like a bad porno

...raiders by the dozen were laying thick suppressing fire, only to scream horribly as Travis exploded their baggy heads

It didn't feel fair. It didn't feel like Survival, in any sense of the word.

So I built a raised platform, piled a bunch of containers and dumped 90% of all weapons, gear and aid. I fed my fusion cores to my now disturbing number of cats as they slowly waddled around, taking frequent naps on the bodies of raiders scattered across watery cages.

Ditched the power armor, pulled Cait out of hers. Equipped basic Military Fatigues and a small, single-ops loadout:

15 Purified Waters. 8 Noodle cups. 2 Antibiotics. 10 Stimpacks. 2 Refreshing Beverages.

44 cal. Revolver, 100 rounds
Operators Sniper Rifle, 50 rounds
Kneecapper's 10 mm. Hardened Pistol, 100 rounds
4 Fragmentation Grenades
2 Vertibird Signal Grenades (for insertion/extraction)

...rinse and repeat, for every mission.
If anything I'm trying to get my loadout even smaller, but Survival mode turns every enemy into a goddamned bullet sponge, so I had to prepare accordingly after one too many death to ammo running out

That's a crazy script you've written there! I could see a spinoff coming out of it, you should go for broke!

There's nothing like venturing in light clothing across the most dangerous places in the Wasteland. I once roamed the Glowing Sea in nothing but Grognak's Costume, chugging refreshing beverages and dropping Radaway to keep me from dying. On Survival with only Grognak's axe as weapon, it was a great ride!

Like you, I always carry Vertibird grenades for insertion / extraction but my melee build must carry a lot of alcohol to be effective. Since I often completely disregard ranged weapon, I can drop all my ammo and bring hundreds of booze bottles instead! I'm not shy on chems either so most of my carry weight is filled with booze and drugs!

Cait's loadout wasn't much different. Despite the fact that she never eats (or POOPS) I packed her kit as realistically as I could muster:

15 Purified Waters, Grains, Stimpacks, etc.

50 cal. Sniper Rifle (though her drug-addled aim is crap)
44 cal. Revolver, 100 rounds

Travis refused to get out of his power armor, (though even if I managed to pickpocket his Fusion Core, I knew there was slim chance of getting him back in) so he plods along armed to the teeth. There's something hilarious about the game's most cowardly character running about in full Quantum Armor, still absolutely shitting his pants

I have to say, since reducing my character's build to a threadbare military build, I've never been this happy playing Survival since I first left the Vault. I watch my character's arms, legs, and torso explode, resolving to flank the enemy a bit more next time. Every step is danger, but now my character sprints like f*cking Peter Pan

If anyone is missing the excitement they first had playing Survival, I highly recommend outfitting your character like an old-school Seals unit.

Nothing but fatigues, face paint, a sidearm and long rifle. Semper Fi.

Nice! I wonder what you mean by "threadbare military build". Is it a kind of utilitarian build based on survivability and skills rather than damage? Talking about sprinting and speed, when your melee build is based on AGI and you never wear Power Armor, you learn to move like a Ninja.

I quit my melee build around lvl 85 because it was too strong for Nuka World. I did take the time to collect the magician hat to gain the +10% speed before moving on to a new build. I have 4 other armor piece with that legendary effect so when I sprint, it's not even funny: I fly!

My current build just made it to Nuka World at lvl 15 and it's crazy hard. I don't have sneak so the Gauntlet was a pain in the backside. At least I knew where the beds were so I made it without much frustration. I should get more play time this week so I'll update.

Don't be shy, keep us updated too, @MacDuffle

 

[Metal_Daze]

I thought I knew what terror was in F4 Survival, but now the fear of Cait and Travis glitching into high places at Settlements only to come crashing down on my Settlers/Raiders and sparking a deadly gunfight that kills everyone is my new greatest fear.

I'm now reduced to f*cking tiptoeing around my base with a pair of serial killer bodyguards just WAITING for the thinnest pretense to start decapitating everyone, as I quietly whisper "are you okay? do you need anything?"

Talk about the most useless dialogue option in-game. Just once, I want a new settler to reply

"I NEED FIFTY PURIFIED WATERS AND A GATLING LASER"

so I could shit my pants with joy

Yeah, I have abandoned the idea of glitching Travis. I'm going all in with Preston, I want to test your assumption: how long will he remain friendly when I start enslaving settlements?

I'm sure he will not turn hostile during the Nuka World main quest but the fun will begin after. I can't wait to get back into it, I might get some time this week!

 

[MacDuffle]

That's a crazy script you've written there! I could see a spinoff coming out of it, you should go for broke!

There's nothing like venturing in light clothing across the most dangerous places in the Wasteland. I once roamed the Glowing Sea in nothing but Grognak's Costume, chugging refreshing beverages and dropping Radaway to keep me from dying. On Survival with only Grognak's axe as weapon, it was a great ride!

Like you, I always carry Vertibird grenades for insertion / extraction but my melee build must carry a lot of alcohol to be effective. Since I often completely disregard ranged weapon, I can drop all my ammo and bring hundreds of booze bottles instead! I'm not shy on chems either so most of my carry weight is filled with booze and drugs!


Nice! I wonder what you mean by "threadbare military build". Is it a kind of utilitarian build based on survivability and skills rather than damage? Talking about sprinting and speed, when your melee build is based on AGI and you never wear Power Armor, you learn to move like a Ninja.

I quit my melee build around lvl 85 because it was too strong for Nuka World. I did take the time to collect the magician hat to gain the +10% speed before moving on to a new build. I have 4 other armor piece with that legendary effect so when I sprint, it's not even funny: I fly!

My current build just made it to Nuka World at lvl 15 and it's crazy hard. I don't have sneak so the Gauntlet was a pain in the backside. At least I knew where the beds were so I made it without much frustration. I should get more play time this week so I'll update.

Don't be shy, keep us updated too, @MacDuffle

I hated the idea of any Survival character being able to physically sustain more than standard-issue Military Infantry loadouts (even if their Strength/Perks allow it) --

Did some research into modern-day military standard issue, since the game is set in US Mass:

"The grunts I knew tended to carry around 360 rounds on their body, mostly in double mag pouches spread between thigh rigs and their vest. Once you got past 10 magazines you're getting into 'dig in your pack' territory, or 'the QRF should be here' or 'somebody go back to the humvee and grab that ammo can full of spare mags'.

I had two grenade pouches, figure the same or 4 for grunts, depending on the work. If it's a fire team leader with a 203, figure 6-8 pouches for those grenades in lieu of thrown grenades.

Depending on rank/mission, grunts might also be carrying an M9 and 3-4 mags for it as well.

So for non-grunts, figure 14-16 pounds for ammo, make it an even 25lbs with weapon. For grunts figure 30-35lbs if they're wearing a pistol, 25-30 if they're not.

Now you add in 8 lbs for uniform and sundries like boots and such.

Now add in the vest. The vest I wore weighed in at every bit of 15 pounds without anything added to it. Now you've got to add in SAPI plates. Unless you're high-speed low-drag and can get away with a simple plate carrier, you're looking at soft armor, 36 pounds of plates (6 each side, 12 front and rear), and a 3 pound helmet. Figure 50-55lbs for protective gear.

Daypack. Wanna have Canteens/Camelbak, gas mask, flashlight, knife, 550 cord, MRE, maybe some extra water, protein bars in lieu of more MREs, maybe a couple more magazines tucked away back there, the all important Charmin, maybe a Claymore if it's an overnight patrol, God forbid you get the radio..... Think 10 pounds for a light daypack (single day patrol in area with lots of friendlies), and 25-30 pounds for a heavy one (more than one day, more remote area). Add in another 5lbs if you get a light radio, and what.....15 if you get the PRC-119? So anywhere from 10-45lbs on the pack.

All told, depending on the job, you're looking at a 'combat load' anywhere between 85 and 130 pounds for a 'rifleman', of varying description."

It looks like my 250 rounds, 10/15 lbs aid "single op" loadout is within realistic parameters, so I'm off to the races on this one. I'll consider some light body armor for heavy story missions, but for now it's fatigues only. So far so good.