Eye Pokes Should Be Illegal

[BennyOcean]

Not fake illegal, real illegal. Right now they're fake illegal because everyone gets away with it. Don't get me started on Jon Jones. I was just re-watching Leon vs. Belal and can't understand why that's not a DQ. Eye pokes are illegal and when someone uses an illegal move to finish the fight it should be a DQ not a no decision.

Why does the UFC act so strange about eye pokes? Like they're technically against the rules but not really. Whenever the pokes happen the announcers will say "accidental" even though they have no way of knowing if it is. The ref will always give them one or two "freebies" so why not do it? They're incentivized to eye poke if it's not going to be called a foul.

The UFC needs to start treating eye pokes like an actual illegal maneuver, no more freebies. First eye poke, take a point. Second eye poke, at least take one point. Third poke DQ. Fight-ending eye poke DQ to the person doing the poking.

 

[Domitian]

It's a legit way to win

 

[MrCoffee]

They should be legal. Everything should be legal. Lets see who chews someone's face off first to assert dominance.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Extending Fingers should be Warnings.

1st Eye Poke should be a Point Deduction.

2nd Eye Poke -- Point Deduction and $10,000 Fine to injured Fighter.

3rd Eye Poke -- DQ.

Fighter carries Personal Fouls for their next two Fights.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Not fake illegal, real illegal. Right now they're fake illegal because everyone gets away with it. Don't get me started on Jon Jones. I was just re-watching Leon vs. Belal and can't understand why that's not a DQ. Eye pokes are illegal and when someone uses an illegal move to finish the fight it should be a DQ not a no decision.

Why does the UFC act so strange about eye pokes? Like they're technically against the rules but not really. Whenever the pokes happen the announcers will say "accidental" even though they have no way of knowing if it is. The ref will always give them one or two "freebies" so why not do it? They're incentivized to eye poke if it's not going to be called a foul.

The UFC needs to start treating eye pokes like an actual illegal maneuver, no more freebies. First eye poke, take a point. Second eye poke, at least take one point. Third poke DQ. Fight-ending eye poke DQ to the person doing the poking.

 

[StonedLemur]

Yellow card first eye poke and 10% of your purse...second one mandatory point deduction.

Trust me they'll police themselves with those rules.

 

[Skarsgard]

I think it should be an instant point in most instances. They're already warned in the locker rooms.

 

[BROWNPRIDE]

I agree and it needs to happen like asap.

 

[laleggenda27]

It's not just eye pokes. Most illegal strikes/techniques get at least 1 or 2 "warnings" before there's repercussions. At this point, it would be smart for fighters to do it on purpose, since you get at least one freebie.

 

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[Dorkman]

I felt Zellhuber was almost aiming for them at times last night. Continuously pushing his fingers out towards his opponents upper face.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Fighters should do the honorable thing like Josh Barnett. He kicked Mighty Mo in the balls on accident which kinda led to the finish. Josh felt bad about it and said fuck it and told Mo to hit him in the balls as payback. Such a Boss move from Josh only seemed fair to me.


Same should apply for eyepokes. imho

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Extending Fingers should be Warnings.

1st Eye Poke should be a Point Deduction.

2nd Eye Poke -- Point Deduction and $10,000 Fine to injured Fighter.

3rd Eye Poke -- DQ.

Fighter carries Personal Fouls for their next two Fights.

Actually agree with this.

However, a lot of times I think it's an unintentional accident.

It's a fine line (often, a judgment call) as to whether the incident was accidental/unintentional vs. carelessness/intentional.

The former maybe should get a pass the first time; however, if deemed to be the latter, then I agree with your matrix.

Finally, reengineered gloves (a curving the grip, but leaving an opening to grab), could alleviate much of this by making fully-extending the fingers straight impossible.

 

[whocares]

What's the matter, "Hey! Don't do that!" doesn't work for you?

 

[whocares]

If you commit a foul the other fighters Corner guy ought to be able to jump in the cage and 2 on 1 the offending party for 30 seconds. Basically like a power play in hockey. "Now here comes Ray Longo OHHHHH SLEPT EM LONGOS OUT COLD OHHHHH". I'd watch.

 

[goOb]

If you poke someone's eye. That finger is removed. And so forth until the fighter can no longer poke another fighter's eyes.

 

[joy2day]

Extending Fingers should be Warnings.

1st Eye Poke should be a Point Deduction.

2nd Eye Poke -- Point Deduction and $10,000 Fine to injured Fighter.

3rd Eye Poke -- DQ.

Fighter carries Personal Fouls for their next two Fights.

Yeah, I think the only thing in question is whether the point deduction happens on the first or second foul.

I could see deducting a point on the first foul if the fighter was egregiously sticking their fingers out, had been told about it, and repeated it resulting in a poke.

I don't know that I would always want to deduct a point on the first foul, especially for mild eye pokes that were just accidental.

I also think that they should start deducting points for multiple fouls for fence grabbing and groin shots. At the very least they should get penalized for repeating it.

I think if someone grabs the fence and stops a TD, the fight should restart with them on the ground in the bottom position.