Explain Magician Asi tricks

[subtlySteve]

I literally didnt read your response.

so my answer is cool bro.

Par for the course.

 

[elreece]

Par for the course.

 

[subtlySteve]

A little later, the 3 of hearts, that was predetermined, uberman didn’t really have a choice in the card selection, he only thought he did.

This is what I was partially referring to when I mentioned there was some obvious editing going on.

There is a little bit of a set-up taking place that we don't get to see before the actual trick, and because of those edits it makes the trick look more miraculous than it would seem if we got to see an unedited version.

Maybe it was done for time constraints? I don't know, but I'm not a fan.

 

[Plutoburn]

The sense of your feelings of inferiority are palpable, I'll do us both a favour and put you on ignore.

Bye now.

Oh noez, being put on ignore by a hobbyist magician.

 

[chardog]

*yawn

"Because I am in the trade, I will abide the rules of the trade and I won't reveal trade secret"

No one cares if you dabble in magic tricks or not or the rule for the people in the trade. You obviously have an inflated sense what people think about what you know. If you are not gonna contribute to this thread, you can just stop posting here because the thread is exactly where it is whether u posted or not.

It’s been said already, there is slight of hand involved, word play, nobody is going to hold your hand and do a twenty minute breakdown of a single trick, and there are multi tricks in this video.

Watch again, there is a part that asi covers the wallet with the cards, touches the wallet even, the wallet is not ordinary, what type of wallet even has a button inside?

Illusion of choice prior to the 3 of hearts, with sus shuffling, then theater for the next five minutes, when it was in the wallet the whole time. Of course it’s ASI’s wallet, it’s a magic prop

 

[chardog]

This is what I was partially referring to when I mentioned there was some obvious editing going on.

There is a little bit of a set-up taking place that we don't get to see before the actual trick, and because of those edits it makes the trick look more miraculous than it would seem if we got to see an unedited version.

Maybe it was done for time constraints? I don't know, but I'm not a fan.

The video editing is simply for an enjoyable video experience, and yes, you can shorten videos to make them flow better, they can be nefarious, they can be harmless , and ASI likely has an agreement to edit to a certain extent as not to reveal his tricks. Any professional video production is going to have multi cam and it can be a real time switcher.

I don’t think there was camera manipulation to sell the tricks, just part of the production

 

[Bob Gray]

It's rather amusing, actually, as you can find numerous examples of that right here on this forum, as has already been pointed out.



This becomes even more amusing when you consider that even a basic understanding of magic would reveal a significant clue (not a complete revelation) regarding how some of the tricks are performed.

And when you say "informative," what you're really advocating for is outright exposure of the tricks, so let's not pretend otherwise.



I will forget more about sleight-of-hand than you could possibly learn in your lifetime. I've dedicated over 25 years to practicing and performing magic.

The purpose of my response was to respect the boundaries of magician ethics while still engaging in conversation.

If my response wasn't satisfactory for you and you didn't find it informative, then that's unfortunate.

However, my point remains unchanged. Your lack of knowledge on the subject is neither my concern nor my responsibility.

The burden of demonstration or proof lies not with me, but with you.

I eagerly await your videos showcasing your impressive knowledge and masterful skill of magic with bated breath.

If you're unable to provide such videos, please avoid making any more foolish remarks.

Edit: Actually, I've decided to put you on ignore. I have no interest in reading the nonsensical ramblings of someone who knows less than me on this specific subject but lacks the intelligence to see beyond their own limited perspective.

So go ahead and ramble all you want, I won't see it.

I think you're taking this way too personally. I'm talking about your post in this thread. Not your post history.

I already said you may very well know how the trick is done, but your post simply was somewhat vague. If your point is that a more experienced or professional magician will take several cues from your post, that's great. But this a a Karate forum, not a magic forum. Most people have a rudimentary knowledge of sleight of hand and card tricks.

I'm not comparing my slight of hand skills to yours. This isn't a magicians duel.


What demonstration of proof do I need to show you? What are you even talking about? I'm not challenging you. I'm saying your post wasn't very informative. If you're saying it's not informative because I'm not an professional magician, well you're kinda proving my point.


Like i said, I think you're taking this way too personally. I'm talking about your post, not your career.

 

[Why did you]

It’s a given that it’s an illusion
Magician’s choice means lack of choice
Check out 8:00 in the clip, illusion of choice, misdirection, that entire segment was not necessary, but it’s the part that builds on lack of choice, the result was predetermined from the start. A little later, the 3 of hearts, that was predetermined, uberman didn’t really have a choice in the card selection, he only thought he did. These were more obvious, i haven’t dissected the rest.

what did he do @ 8:00 ? it doesnt look like he advised Huberman for that choice

 

[HereticBD]

I got into this stuff a while back, but it's disappointing even if you know how most tricks are done, because the "magic" is usually an ungodly amount of practice to pull it off. Those sleight of hand card tricks are no joke.

 

[jeff7b9]

I got into this stuff a while back, but it's disappointing even if you know how most tricks are done, because the "magic" is usually an ungodly amount of practice to pull it off. Those sleight of hand card tricks are no joke.

There is one trick that has eluded every magician this world has ever produced for as long as time itself.

Getting laid as a teenager.

Gotta put those idle hands to work doing something.

 

[subtlySteve]

I don’t think there was camera manipulation to sell the tricks, just part of the production

I doubt there was editing directly affecting the tricks themselves, but it's clear that there was editing before the start of several card tricks, likely to enhance the presentation for the audience.

While Huberman's reactions appeared genuine, and he seemed impressed by the tricks, it's worth noting that Asi could have achieved a similar level of astonishment with less effort.

Basically, it seemed like the performance was aimed at mystifying the online audience rather than just wowing Huberman.

 

[subtlySteve]

I got into this stuff a while back, but it's disappointing even if you know how most tricks are done, because the "magic" is usually an ungodly amount of practice to pull it off. Those sleight of hand card tricks are no joke.

Absolutely.

The true essence of magic lies in one simple fact: it demands relentless practice over years. While it's true that you can walk into any magic shop worldwide and purchase a self-working miracle that looks incredibly cool, the heart of magic lies in the artistry of sleight-of-hand.

Some magicians predominantly rely on gimmicks, and that's perfectly acceptable.

However, they must compensate by crafting engaging and original dialogue to hold the audience's attention beyond mere demonstrations.

But when we delve into the realm of authentic sleight-of-hand with cards, coins, and other props, the dedication required becomes evident.

This is particularly true in gambling demonstrations, which happen to be my personal favorite. These demonstrations involve showcasing card skills such as dealing seconds, bottoms, false shuffles, cuts, shifts, and numerous other techniques.

It's taken me years of practice to even reach a level where I'm considered "okay" by card mechanics who possess far more knowledge and skill than myself.

But an even better example would be a flourish like the one-handed revolution cut invented by magician, Brian Tudor.

It took me 4 hours practice a day for 7 days to get it down without dropping cards. 28 hours of total practice for a move that looks cool and begins and ends in a couple seconds.

Seems crazy to most folks, but to me, it was totally worth it.

"The only secret of magic is that I'm willing to work harder on it than you think it's worth."
- Penn Jillette

Or as I like to say: A 12-year-old can do what I can with a deck of cards with 25 years of practice.

 

[chardog]

what did he do @ 8:00 ? it doesnt look like he advised Huberman for that choice

sorry, I got the timestamps off, 7:22, wallet touched by Asi and put in a very certain direction for the next step, 7:39 is where he finds and slips the 3 diamonds into his wallet (guessing a trick deck). The predetermined 3H was in the cutting technique I'm guessing. The camera did not show on purpose probably because you would be able to see the slight of hand

 

[MC Paul Barman]

LoL… you want someone to explain magic.

It’s MAGIC.

It's rather amusing, actually, as you can find numerous examples of that right here on this forum, as has already been pointed out.



This becomes even more amusing when you consider that even a basic understanding of magic would reveal a significant clue (not a complete revelation) regarding how some of the tricks are performed.

And when you say "informative," what you're really advocating for is outright exposure of the tricks, so let's not pretend otherwise.



I will forget more about sleight-of-hand than you could possibly learn in your lifetime. I've dedicated over 25 years to practicing and performing magic.

The purpose of my response was to respect the boundaries of magician ethics while still engaging in conversation.

If my response wasn't satisfactory for you and you didn't find it informative, then that's unfortunate.

However, my point remains unchanged. Your lack of knowledge on the subject is neither my concern nor my responsibility.

The burden of demonstration or proof lies not with me, but with you.

I eagerly await your videos showcasing your impressive knowledge and masterful skill of magic with bated breath.

If you're unable to provide such videos, please avoid making any more foolish remarks.

Edit: Actually, I've decided to put you on ignore. I have no interest in reading the nonsensical ramblings of someone who knows less than me on this specific subject but lacks the intelligence to see beyond their own limited perspective.

So go ahead and ramble all you want, I won't see it.

But you do seem concerned with his apparent lack of knowledge

 

[terrapin]

Absolutely.

The true essence of magic lies in one simple fact: it demands relentless practice over years. While it's true that you can walk into any magic shop worldwide and purchase a self-working miracle that looks incredibly cool, the heart of magic lies in the artistry of sleight-of-hand.

Some magicians predominantly rely on gimmicks, and that's perfectly acceptable.

However, they must compensate by crafting engaging and original dialogue to hold the audience's attention beyond mere demonstrations.

But when we delve into the realm of authentic sleight-of-hand with cards, coins, and other props, the dedication required becomes evident.

This is particularly true in gambling demonstrations, which happen to be my personal favorite. These demonstrations involve showcasing card skills such as dealing seconds, bottoms, false shuffles, cuts, shifts, and numerous other techniques.

It's taken me years of practice to even reach a level where I'm considered "okay" by card mechanics who possess far more knowledge and skill than myself.

But an even better example would be a flourish like the one-handed revolution cut invented by magician, Brian Tudor.

It took me 4 hours practice a day for 7 days to get it down without dropping cards. 28 hours of total practice for a move that looks cool and begins and ends in a couple seconds.

Seems crazy to most folks, but to me, it was totally worth it.

"The only secret of magic is that I'm willing to work harder on it than you think it's worth."
- Penn Jillette

Or as I like to say: A 12-year-old can do what I can with a deck of cards with 25 years of practice.

I would like to see one example of what you're talking about. Maybe you could post me a link of somebody breaking down some commonly known trick that requires great skill because I would love to see what you're talking about beyond these very vague examples.

 

[subtlySteve]

I would like to see one example of what you're talking about. Maybe you could post me a link of somebody breaking down some commonly known trick that requires great skill because I would love to see what you're talking about beyond these very vague examples.

How To Strike Second Deal.

Here is a tutorial I made and posted here over a year ago on how to strike second deal.

A Gambling Demonstration by subtlySteve

Here is a video I recorded of a gambling demo today, just a couple of hours ago.

 

[chardog]

I would like to see one example of what you're talking about. Maybe you could post me a link of somebody breaking down some commonly known trick that requires great skill because I would love to see what you're talking about beyond these very vague examples.

you may need to watch this a few times, but it's literally 1 minute and it shows you the premise of magicians choice, which I've seen ASI and many others use before:

 

[terrapin]

Thanks very much for that. I can't wait to watch these.

 

[subtlySteve]

LoL… you want someone to explain magic.

It’s MAGIC.


But you do seem concerned with his apparent lack of knowledge

I'm not bothered by their lack of knowledge per se, but rather by the audacity of their ignorance.

It's one thing not to know, but to assert oneself as more knowledgeable than someone with over two decades of experience in magic?

That's disturbing.

I won't engage in arguments with astrophysicists as if I'm more knowledgeable about space than they are. If their explanation doesn't satisfy me, I'll seek the answers independently, but I won't pretend to know more than them by arguing.

Of course, I'm not suggesting that performing magic is as challenging or significant as astrophysics, (it's not) but my point remains valid.

 

[MC Paul Barman]

I'm not bothered by their lack of knowledge per se, but rather by the audacity of their ignorance.

It's one thing not to know, but to assert oneself as more knowledgeable than someone with over two decades of experience in magic?

That's disturbing.

I won't engage in arguments with astrophysicists as if I'm more knowledgeable about space than they are. If their explanation doesn't satisfy me, I'll seek the answers independently, but I won't pretend to know more than them by arguing.

Of course, I'm not suggesting that performing magic is as challenging or significant as astrophysics, (it's not) but my point remains valid.

I’ll be honest… I just want to know how he did it. But I respect that if you see it, and you’re in the industry as well, you’re not going to spill the beans.

But… am I wrong in thinking both of the guys are just in on it? There’s no way that photo appears on his phone with the card without a little bit of confederacy going on