Everyone's on steroids

[George Carlin]

Was just in the Jones vs Cormier thread and people again were discrediting Jones for being on steroids. You sound like a bunch of little kids. Every fuckin fighter almost is on some form of steroid. I grew up in mma gyms dude, I've been on the mat since I was 11 or 12 at a ton of different gyms with big name fighters and lots of ufc fighters in the pro classes. They were all on steroids. I would say more are on them than aren't. Everyone bashed cheal for being on them against Anderson, and than it turned out Anderson was on them... what I'm saying is stop bitching about it. They aren't cheating. They are doing what they have to to compete against people who are also on steroids. Whiney kids man. Gotta tell you Santa isn't real next shit

 

[kneebartotheface]

The sport is better with more steroids.

 

[Post 2 Decision]

So, everyone is cheating

Should have stricter penalties for guys who are caught, not just slaps on the wrists

 

[Captain Herb]

Then why is he getting caught over and over while others aren't even once? That's what we have to go on.

 

[Lee_]

I want to hear who is and who is not on roids, and the evidence that they are. I want picture and video. I want stats on how many are using roids and how many aren't.

If you've been on the mat with the pros since 11, you should have this information.

Jones's roid wins should be removed from all record books. They are like Barry Bonds' late career home runs.

 

[Fahcough]

So, everyone is cheating

Should have stricter penalties for guys who are caught, not just slaps on the wrists

Agreed. Life bans.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Was just in the Jones vs Cormier thread and people again were discrediting Jones for being on steroids. You sound like a bunch of little kids.

And this temper tantrum is making you sound so mature.

Every fuckin fighter almost is on some form of steroid. (a bunch of bullshit). I would say more are on them than aren't.

Oh, so not everyone, ok. You can just say more than half with confidence? Good argument.

They aren't cheating.

They factually are.

Gotta tell you Santa isn't real next shit

Santa's definitely on steroids

 

[George Carlin]

I want to hear who is and who is not on roids, and the evidence that they are. I want picture and video. I want stats on how many are using roids and how many aren't.

If you've been on the mat with the pros since 11, you should have this information.

Jones's roid wins should be removed from all record books. They are like Barry Bonds' late career home runs.

Those home runs count and I ain't no snitch bitch fuck I look like a white comedian

 

[MotorCityCobra]

I want to hear who is and who is not on roids, and the evidence that they are. I want picture and video. I want stats on how many are using roids and how many aren't.

If you've been on the mat with the pros since 11, you should have this information.

Jones's roid wins should be removed from all record books. They are like Barry Bonds' late career home runs.

Posts like this I feel are just naive, but seem like with good intention.

I was around boxing/mma semi inside for years and would estimate as high as 95 and as low as maaaybe 80% who make it to the big leagues use or have used steroids/sarms/epo.

Most of the outliers become users themselves once they become aware of how prevalent it is.

What proof would you accept?

 

[George Carlin]

Then why is he getting caught over and over while others aren't even once? That's what we have to go on.

Some people are good at not getting caught and have whole teams dedicated to helping them not get caught. You think steroids are like a personal decision a fighter makes and keeps secret from his team? No man. If a fighter gets popped, I guarantee steroids are part of the culture at that gym and all his teammates are on them.

 

[Captain Herb]

Jones's roid wins should be removed from all record books. They are like Barry Bonds' late career home runs.

I don't understand why a ped failure for a fight is a NC, it should be a loss. If you cheat to the point where the fight is called off, it's always considered a loss as far as other stuff.

 

[George Carlin]

And this temper tantrum is making you sound so mature.

Oh, so not everyone, ok. You can just say more than half with confidence? Good argument.

They factually are.

Santa's definitely on steroids

OK they factually are cheating. So was Lance Armstrong when it turned out almost everyone he was competing with was on steroids. Just use your head for a second. Your livelihood is at stake, you want to be the best at something which is your only shot in life. You have a family to feed. There is a magical pill that will make you way better at the thing you're doing. Are you not gonna take it? Do you think most people wouldn't? Human nature should make this conversation an open and shut case. Yall think these hungry motherfuckers leaving stones unturned in pursuit of their life's greatest ambition? Lololol

 

[Captain Herb]

Some people are good at not getting caught and have whole teams dedicated to helping them not get caught. You think steroids are like a personal decision a fighter makes and keeps secret from his team? No man. If a fighter gets popped, I guarantee steroids are part of the culture at that gym and all his teammates are on them.

We don't just go on what you say. We have standards, if you flunk steroid tests over and over and the other guy doesn't, too bad for you. You're on steroids and the other guy isn't until proven otherwise.

 

[George Carlin]

So, everyone is cheating

Should have stricter penalties for guys who are caught, not just slaps on the wrists

You'd have no sport left to watch if they magically caught them all

 

[George Carlin]

We don't just go on what you say. We have standards, if you flunk steroid tests over and over and the other guy doesn't, too bad for you. You're on steroids and the other guy isn't until proven otherwise.

Ok than until the rules change your standard is based on who is the best at being sneaky. Not who is actually doing steroids.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

OK they factually are cheating. So was Lance Armstrong when it turned out almost everyone he was competing with was on steroids. Just use your head for a second. Your livelihood is at stake, you want to be the best at something which is your only shot in life. You have a family to feed. There is a magical pill that will make you way better at the thing you're doing. Are you not gonna take it? Do you think most people wouldn't? Human nature should make this conversation an open and shut case. Yall think these hungry motherfuckers leaving stones unturned in pursuit of their life's greatest ambition? Lololol

Aside from your posting style, I can tell you exactly why you're the child in this situation. You are applying the most simple thought process to this: that being on steroids or not on steroids is only a binary choice, so therefore, all on steroids are on equal playing fields. That's OBVIOUSLY not the case. On the scale of zero to infinite, the only number you can shoot for is zero. So the closest an organization can come to a level playing field is saying no and punishing those who get caught.

The only other choice is for fighters to sign up for mandated steroids, provided and overseen by the organization to try and equalize them.

 

[George Carlin]

Aside from your posting style, I can tell you exactly why you're the child in this situation. You are applying the most simple thought process to this: that being on steroids or not on steroids is only a binary choice, so therefore, all on steroids are on equal playing fields. That's OBVIOUSLY not the case. On the scale of zero to infinite, the only number you can shoot for is zero. So the closest an organization can come to a level playing field is saying no and punishing those who get caught.

The only other choice is for fighters to sign up for mandated steroids, provided and overseen by the organization to try and equalize them.

You should hear my thoughts on legalize tax and regulate. Steroids should never be mandated. But the constant war between usadas updated testing methods and people finding ways around it isn't working. Just like the war on drugs. I say legalize steroids in sports. Or combat sports at least. The fights are way fuckin better. The fighters want to take them, and the main argument against them has always been possible bodily harm. These dudes are signing up to get kicked in the teeth for a living, I think they'd be happy to legally take them and better defend themselves from people who are already illegally on them anyway. Bispings eyeball would agree.

 

[Thy]

i miss soccer kicks.

 

[brownsmith76]

I've been on the mat since I was 11 or 12 at a ton of different gyms with big name fighters and lots of ufc fighters in the pro classes.

Did they tell you they were on steroids? Or did you just hear rumors?

 

[George Carlin]

Did they tell you they were on steroids? Or did you just hear rumors?

Have you ever trained at a gym for more than a year where people feel comfortable around you? These things are openly talked about.