Everyones Favorite Fight: GGG vs OUMA

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  1. parrythehate

    parrythehate your mother is so ugly, it effects her self esteem

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    Hardcore boxing fans would or will yell, "DID YOU WATCH GGG VS OUMA"? During civil boxing discussions. Well I finally watched the infamous match between the two. From the start of the beginning rounds Ouma was active, jabbing/out-jabbing Golovkin. The big difference here was the en-guarde or on-guard stances the fighter chose to use. Ouma had a perfect boxer bladed on guard stance but was not evasive as most bladed on guard stance users are, and he is a south paw. Ouma is mobile, but Golovkin has a good reputation of cutting off the ring as well. Ouma was born with a genetic superiority, for a smaller guy than Golovkin he had the longer reach, pretty lucky in my opinion. Ouma was winning all the rounds in my opinion, I think that he had the fight in the bag if it went the distance, in fact I think he thought that too. The problem we face with bladed stanced boxers is that their center line is well protected, Ouma didnt get hurt at any time because his center line was protected punches only grazed him, hence "OUMA CAN HANDLE GGG POWER" as some hardcore fans would say. What helped Ouma was that he was a south paw and that Golovkin had a squared stance as well. Because of that squared stance Golovkin got hit a lot of times, no head movement and no counter attacks.

    Golovkin had to adapt, but it was difficult. Surprisingly bladed stance users have a better time fighting inside as well. Even in the inside Golovkin would get out punched, every single time. But here is what impressed me, due to Ouma's bladed stance he lacked any real knockout power to put Golovkin down on the inside and this was Golovkins strategy, to eventually make Ouma have a squared stance. Squared stance means bigger area to land attacks on. This went on for a while, Ouma ditched his own strategy and fought Golovkins game. Golovkin utilizes his forehead to get on the inside, hence Ouma's headbutt complaints and the bloodied mouth complaint Ouma had with the doctor. Golovkin worn down Ouma because Ouma was not using his bladed stance anymore, funny enough Golovkin fought at his preferred mid distance and TKO'd Ouma. Ouma got too used fighting on the inside. The lesson of this fight is if the opponent has superiority over you, you have to manipulate them into your strategy. Ouma came in a better fighter and a clear victor over Golovkin, but due to Golovkins will, tenacity, toughness, and intelligence, Golovkin took the win. Now fans, DID YOU WATCH GGG VS OUMA?

     
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  3. KillerIsBack V2

    KillerIsBack V2 Brown Belt

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    the jab fest he put on the frenchie had to be to prove a point of how golivkin improved since then. GGG's currently very well roundedness
     
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    Fight that made me a fan of Golovkin. Actually had money on Ouma, was like +800 iirc, it was on some (legal) stream from Panama or some shit. He gave GGG some problems for sure but GGG is a savage, wouldn't stop with the pressure, Ouma is tough as nails and held his own until his body couldn't handle it anymore. Lost a little bit of money, but couldn't help but come out of that with serious respect for both guys, already knew Ouma well but made me want to keep an eye on Golovkin. One of the more brutal fights you'll come across, they beat the shit out of each other.
     
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    Overall I agree. I recall thinking GGG looked god awful at times in this fight getting off balance & turned into bad positions alot. Puma showed up in top form GGG gutted it out & got the win though.
     
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    parrythehate your mother is so ugly, it effects her self esteem

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    I cant really say for sure if it was because he was tired, that he sucked. I wasnt there, but Abel can say the things he says because he is Golovkin's Coach. I only look at the fight overall. But if I were to actually believe abel's words, then Golovkin has a lot of spirit. Fatigued and still had the guts to win the fight.
     
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    parrythehate your mother is so ugly, it effects her self esteem

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    I only posted this fight because I've noticed a lot of boxing fans gauge Golovkins skill based on this fight. Some forum peeps need to relax and try to interpret the actual combat.
     
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    parrythehate your mother is so ugly, it effects her self esteem

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    I think he did improve, but to me in this fight it shows that he is that good. Technically Ouma had the upper hand. Golovkin won still, to me it means that he was always good with almost no room for improvement. But hey...
     
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    Interesting fact for this fight, Ouma has been stopped twice in his career. Once in '99 when he was a kid and then almost 12 years later against GGG. Guy has been the epitome of durability throughout his career and he's a skilled fighter to boot. It's not surprising he gave Golovkin fits at times in this fight but it's also impressive that GGG was able to tough it out and stop a guy that's known for being notoriously tough and durable.

    That's a big part of why this fight was so brutal, it takes a hell of a beating to stop Ouma and GGG somehow put that on him. I've always said Golovkin is a fighter at heart, he's got boxing acumen but when you start to throw down with him he's not gonna back down. It's not in his dna. The Lemieux fight was an exception to the rule in that regard.
     
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    Last time I mentioned that Golovkin had a tough fight with Ouma, a couple of crybabies lost their shit.

    "His manager had an excuse!" :(

    edit- haha, guess I should have read the first response. Asshat already pulled that excuse out.
     
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    You can't have a reasonable discussion about Golovkin on this site. His hardcore fans on this site aren't the sharpest bunch. Kind of like Pac fans a few years ago, Golovkin fans just take everything about the guy waaay too personally.
     
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    This can go either way, either for or against Golovkin or any boxer/fighter. The ideal thing is to only focus on the fight. if we can manage to interpret the fight and the way the fighter fights and not the fighter himself, then i think everyone can get along and learn. I just started to watch Golovkins fights so I can learn some stuff, I posted these fights so people can see a different perspective. But this is my opinion, an ideal. People can reject it, ignore it or hopefully read it and learn something new.
     
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    parrythehate your mother is so ugly, it effects her self esteem

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    I've noticed when wilson kayden started his videos he was unbiased. Soon he got internet assaulted by Pacquiao fans. He had the philosophers view on boxing or the science view, but those pacquiao fans changed him into an embittered person. His later videos became a bit more harsh and had a lot of tongue in cheek comments about Pacquiao. I kind of wish that didnt happen. The internet can be a cruel mistress but we gotta stay cool.
     
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    Well would ya look at that.
     
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    I wrote it.
     
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    Love you too, mook.

    As soon as sb. disagrees with you, you lose it. That just shows your low level of confidence, probably had a shitty relationship with your parents or whatever.
     
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    I had forgotten about that MENSA Floyd fan club.
     
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    Everybody has tough fights, some of which may surprise people in hindsight. Mayweather, who seemed unhittable at times in his career, was beat on a bit by lesser fighters earlier on. Pacquiao was stopped twice by guys nobody can name.

    It really is not anything to be defensive over, if you are a GGG fan. He had a tough fight with a good fighter, and responded by showing some heart and knocking him out. Nothing to be too concerned about there, especially knowing how he has looked since then.

    I would argue it is actually encouraging to know for sure that he has the toughness and durability required to endure that kind of fight. Kind of how it made Mayweather scarier when people realized he actually had a good chin too. It makes you wonder, "He is a great boxer, and I probably cannot end the fight with one perfect punch, so what can I do."
     

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