Media Every Mirko Crocop Finish Ever

Yea how could a 10 year veteran with over 50 fights possibly start declining? It surely must have been the bright lights of the UFC.
He ended his career on a 10 fight win streak after the UFC. I wasn't suggesting it was the bright lights of the UFC. You didn't understand my post.
 
He ended his career on a 10 fight win streak after the UFC. I wasn't suggesting it was the bright lights of the UFC. You didn't understand my post.

I'm sure you think Kobe Bryant was still in his prime because he scored 60 points in his final game at 39 years old. Smh.
 
I'm sure you think Kobe Bryant was still in his prime because he scored 60 points in his final game at 39 years old. Smh.
after a ruptured achilles and advanced age, I don't think so. BTW, instead of shaking your head, why don't you post accurate information. Kobe was 37, not 39. When do you define Shogun's prime?
 
I'm sure you think Kobe Bryant was still in his prime because he scored 60 points in his final game at 39 years old. Smh.

I would say as well style played a big part, Crocop remained a good anti grappler latter in his career and he fought plenty of grapplers like Ishii, Mo and Alikbari.
 
Cro Cops main reason for decline was lack of PEDs. He actually made a small run at the end of his career where he could juice again
 
Cro Cops main reason for decline was lack of PEDs. He actually made a small run at the end of his career where he could juice again

Crocop even during his bad spell in the UFC though was packing more muscle than in Pride were he was around 220lbs.

I think its really easy to see that the dropoff physically was in mobility, a series of injuries around 06-08 led to a serious decline there which made his style of fighting ineffective.

The Crocop of his 2nd UFC run was having to fight in a very different fashion to his Pride run as he didnt have the speedn and mobility to pick out his big kicks.
 
What about the ones where he's falling on his own bent leg? Technically those are Cro Cop finishes as well.
 
Yea how could a 10 year veteran with over 50 fights possibly start declining? It surely must have been the bright lights of the UFC.

He couldn't handle the UFC. He did good before and even after his UFC stint. But when he was under those bright lights he proved how overrated Pride HW's were.
 
He ended his career on a 10 fight win streak after the UFC. I wasn't suggesting it was the bright lights of the UFC. You didn't understand my post.
He couldn't handle the UFC. He did good before and even after his UFC stint. But when he was under those bright lights he proved how overrated Pride HW's were.
Key thing is to finally get rid of cage and unified UFC rules. Cage is just too big, it was so much easier to avoid Mirko's kicks and left hand in such a big open space and wait for counter, and of course there is too much long, exhausting, teadious wire fence clinching in cage where leaning of dead weight gives advantage.

Of course, huge mileage and injuries played their part, but american UFC version of MMA and unified rules were simply terrible for Cro Cop, and helped much to his opponents. Cro Cop just needed some career sports luck to not have to fight in UFC and cage at all if possible, and at least not till 2008 till he gets rematch with Fedor while his body was still holding.

BTW Pride had far brighter lights than UFC while it existed. Pride had more money, was more watched worldwide with huge stadiums filled, and Pride had better fighters while UFC was B league. So Cro Cop did fine under bright lights and on the biggest stage.
 
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after a ruptured achilles and advanced age, I don't think so. BTW, instead of shaking your head, why don't you post accurate information. Kobe was 37, not 39. When do you define Shogun's prime?

Sorry pal, 37.


But the point remains that legendary athletes have flashes of brilliance late in their careers and sometimes finish on a high note.

Shoguns prime was 2005 and he faced some set backs with the armbreak against Coleman and then the knee surgery around the Forrest loss. It took him some time to regain his peak form but he finally did around the time he beat Liddell and Lyoto. He wasn't in his prime physically like he was in 2005 but he was closer to that form than being washed up and he had lots of experience so you could call that a resurgence or second prime. When he blew his knee out in the second Lyoto fight he got the epic win but that was the end of it. He was never the same after that. Shogun is tough to measure because he started young, had huge success at a young age and lots of injuries in his late 20s.
 
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Key thing is to finally get rid of cage and unified UFC rules. Cage is just too big, it was so much easier to avoid Mirko's kicks and left hand in such a big open space and wait for counter, and of course there is too much long, exhausting, teadious wire fence clinching in cage where leaning of dead weight gives advantage.

Of course, huge mileage and injuries played their part, but american UFC version of MMA and unified rules were simply terrible for Cro Cop, and helped much to his opponents. Cro Cop just needed some career sports luck to not have to fight in UFC and cage at all if possible, and at least not till 2008 till he gets rematch with Fedor while his body was still holding.

BTW Pride had far brighter lights than UFC while it existed. Pride had more money, was more watched worldwide with huge stadiums filled, and Pride had better fighters while UFC was B league. So Cro Cop did fine under bright lights and on the biggest stage.

It's different under those yankee lights. These folks aren't submissive and clap for trash fights like in Japan, stadium or not. Sometimes it gets tribal and you get shitbirds talking smack from the stands. Some can deal with it others can't. The octagon and fence and no corners indeed too, it brings a different intensity. It got a lot of Pride fighters shook, once they fought in a cage they looked like they were fighting for their lives in there. Fedor especially. Too wild, their minds weren't right. The 'murican cages ate them up.

Pride always dies.
 
Sorry pal, 37.


But the point remains that legendary athletes have flashes of brilliance late in their careers and sometimes finish on a high note.

Shoguns prime was 2005 and he faced some set backs with the armbreak against Coleman and then the knee surgery around the Forrest loss. It took him some time to regain his peak form but he finally did around the time he beat Liddell and Lyoto. He wasn't in his prime physically like he was in 2005 but he was closer to that form than being washed up and he had lots of experience so you could call that a resurgence or second prime. When he blew his knee out in the second Lyoto fight he got the epic win but that was the end of it. He was never the same after that. Shogun is tough to measure because he started young, had huge success and lots of injuries.

The only one who gets to have that excuse is Wanderlei because he got brutally KO'd twice in a row right before he went to the UFC, one of those by a HW headkick.

The others don't have excuses. They simply couldn't handle it. They were primed and got dined in the UFC.
 
Sorry pal, 37.


But the point remains that legendary athletes have flashes of brilliance late in their careers and sometimes finish on a high note.

Shoguns prime was 2005 and he faced some set backs with the armbreak against Coleman and then the knee surgery around the Forrest loss. It took him some time to regain his peak form but he finally did around the time he beat Liddell and Lyoto. He wasn't in his prime physically like he was in 2005 but he was closer to that form than being washed up and he had lots of experience so you could call that a resurgence or second prime. When he blew his knee out in the second Lyoto fight he got the epic win but that was the end of it. He was never the same after that. Shogun is tough to measure because he started young, had huge success and lots of injuries.
I told you that you didn't understand my post but you keep shaking your head. Kobe was done after the achilles injury. He hung around a few more years with his guile, toughness and skill. The 60 point game was a flash back in time, a gift for all of us to see what we would miss. The guy is an absolute legend, I love him. You are arguing with yourself. I agree that fighters/athletes get older and they aren't the same at a certain point. I think there is a little more to it with the Pride guys coming over to the UFC.
 
He couldn't handle the UFC. He did good before and even after his UFC stint. But when he was under those bright lights he proved how overrated Pride HW's were.

Yea those Pride guys had no talent at all. None or them ever touched gold in the UFC.
 
Not even remotely close at all the "every Mirko finish ever" but still a nice video, thanks TS

Not even close to every finish if you only count Pride + UFC which I guess this was. Not to mention all of K1, post-UFC MMA, etc etc. I thought this video was truly going to be every finish ever and was a bit let down when I saw it was 10 minutes and instantly knew it wasn't.
 
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