EU asylum for suspected Istanbul attack mastermind repeatedly blocked his extradition to Russia

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

EU asylum for suspected Istanbul attack mastermind repeatedly blocked his extradition to Russia
https://www.rt.com/news/349063-istanbul-attack-mastermind-asylum/

Chataev was assigned a leading role in training extremists that would then commit terrorist attacks in both Russia and Western Europe, the Deputy Chairman of the Russian Investigative Committee Andrey Przhezdomsky said, adding that, in Syria, Chataev also commands a unit consisting “primarily of immigrants from the North Caucasus,” Russia's Kommersant newspaper reported earlier this year.

Chataev turned out to be long wanted by the Russian authorities for terrorism-related offenses but he fled to Europe, where he was granted asylum, and successfully managed to escape extradition to Russia.

Chataev joined Islamist secessionist militants that fought against Russia in the Second Chechen War between 1999 and 2000, where he lost an arm. Later, he was considered to be a representative of Dokka Umarov, once a “terrorist №1”in Russia, in the Western Europe.

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In 2010, Chataev was arrested in Ukraine with his mobile phone files containing a demolition technique instruction and photos of people killed in a blast. Russia requested his extradition on terrorism-related charges but the European Court for Human Rights ordered Ukraine not to hand him over to Russia with Amnesty International also urging Ukrainian authorities to halt extradition as Chataev “could face an unfair trial and would be at risk of torture and other ill-treatment.”

My 2c, this guy should be sent to Russia asap.

 

[Abezal]

pathetic Eu trash giving protection to terrorists, all of them should be fed to hogs.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Russia brought it upon themselves by wantonly labeling people from Chechnya as terrorists, though. If they had been more measured, Western countries wouldn't have been as reticent to believe them. The result of this mistrust is that when Russians label a legitimate terrorist as such, outsiders see it as the boy who cried wolf. They have a really bad track record in the Caucasus. Pretty much kill first and maybe pretend to ask questions later.

 

[Abezal]

They have a really bad track record in the Caucasus. Pretty much kill first and maybe pretend to ask questions later.

About the only strategy that works on islam. Cant fault them for that.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

Russia brought it upon themselves by wantonly labeling people from Chechnya as terrorists, though. If they had been more measured, Western countries wouldn't have been as reticent to believe them. The result of this mistrust is that when Russians label a legitimate terrorist as such, outsiders see it as the boy who cried wolf. They have a really bad track record in the Caucasus. Pretty much kill first and maybe pretend to ask questions later.

How do we know they were wrong about them though? Hundreds of Russians were taken hostage by Chechen terrorists during Chechen wars. Russians were right about this guy, how do we know they were wrong about the others? Do you think there is a possibility our distrustful outlook on their terrorism warnings may have been influenced by the western media, which is very soft on Islam and hard on Russians?

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

About the only strategy that works on islam. Cant fault them for that.

Well, it's not an effective strategy when fighting an insurgency unless you're willing to kill pretty much every adult male and every male child, Herod style. It's just random dudes that decide they've had enough and run into the woods. Given how mountainous the area is, even that's difficult. Their best chance is to nip it in the bud instead of playing whack-a-mole.

That means saying fuck it, I'm tired of dealing with you people and giving Chechnya independence. Lose a little money because a pipeline runs through there but it's worth it

 

[Abezal]

Well, it's not an effective strategy when fighting an insurgency unless you're willing to kill pretty much every adult male and every male child, Herod style. It's just random dudes that decide they've had enough and run into the woods. Given how mountainous the area is, even that's difficult. Their best chance is to nip it in the bud instead of playing whack-a-mole.

That means saying fuck it, I'm tired of dealing with you people and giving Chechnya independence. Lose a little money because a pipeline runs through there but it's worth it

Ruskis aren't big on giving up especially land, giving how they feel about fall of the Soviets and losing so much, good luck seeing them give up even that islamist shit hole.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

How do we know they were wrong about them though? Hundreds of Russians were taken hostage by Chechen terrorists during Chechen wars. Russians were right about this guy, how do we know they were wrong about the others? Do you think there is a possibility our distrustful outlook on their terrorism warnings may have been influenced by the western media, which is very soft on Islam and hard on Russians?

After reading fairly extensively on Chechnya, the wars, and the Caucasus in general, I can't say I feel much sympathy for the Russian government in regards to the region. They earned that distrust, truly. To this day people just disappear in the middle of the night, shoved into a black van and not heard from again. You can't expect first-world countries to treat you as an equal when that's how your judicial process works.

Russians were taken hostages at some times, but on the balance sheet that pales in comparison to what average Chechens went through. Despite notable counterexamples (Beslan being the biggest one), Chechen terrorists tend to kill police officers at checkpoints. At least those are armed adult men, unlike the Middle Eastern and Pakistani terrorist scumbags whose MO is killing the weakest among us.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Ruskis aren't big on giving up especially land, giving how they feel about fall of the Soviets and losing so much, good luck seeing them give up even that islamist shit hole.

That's true. They are unlikely to give it up because of how they feel it would look. Would embolden Dagestan, which is more violent than Chechnya. Russia's one of the few countries actually gaining territory these days (Crimea, soon formally South Ossetia, de facto Abkhazia, perhaps soon formally Eastern Ukraine).

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

After reading fairly extensively on Chechnya, the wars, and the Caucasus in general, I can't say I feel much sympathy for the Russian government in regards to the region. They earned that distrust, truly. To this day people just disappear in the middle of the night, shoved into a black van and not heard from again. You can't expect first-world countries to treat you as an equal when that's how your judicial process works.

Russians were taken hostages at some times, but on the balance sheet that pales in comparison to what average Chechens went through. Despite notable counterexamples (Beslan being the biggest one), Chechen terrorists tend to kill police officers at checkpoints. At least those are armed adult men, unlike the Middle Eastern and Pakistani terrorist scumbags whose MO is killing the weakest among us.

Heh. Pretty soon, these first world nations will be taking the same approach against Islamic aggression, or they will stop being first world countries. I don't think we're above what the Russians did. We already passed patriot act / bill c51, and if the aggression keeps escalating, you best believe terrorist suspects will disappear in the middle of the night here too. IMO, the only reason we didn't arrive to this point yet and they did is because we have an ocean to protect us and they don't.

 

[SRN]

This guy was a known terrorist who apparently fought for the Caucasus Emirate how was he granted asylum? WTF are these people trying to do with Europe?

 

[Pixelated Porn]

Russia brought it upon themselves by wantonly labeling people from Chechnya as terrorists,

LOL, don't think wantonly fits here unless the definition changed recently. Unless, russia has been labeling chechnyan christians and jews terrorists.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Fucking cucks.

 

[Rod1]

Well Russia tended to massacre chechens and they tend to have tons of political prisoners.

They also wont extradite their own criminals, and sometimes even protect them. So you may get the idea why the EU isnt that keen on sending them all the people they ask for.

 

[2DUM2TAP]

Somehow "I told you so" doesn't seem harsh enough here.

 

[clmetal]

They are the most vulnerable as a consequence of civil war and strife.

They are parents.

They are children.

They are orphans and it is very important...that we do not close our hearts to these victims of such violence and somehow start equating the issue of refugees with the issue of terrorism.

 

[spin]

Well Russia tended to massacre chechens and they tend to have tons of political prisoners.

They also wont extradite their own criminals, and sometimes even protect them. So you may get the idea why the EU isnt that keen on sending them all the people they ask for.

If they stick to a policy, its one of those things that's for better or worse that sometimes ends up worse.

If they're making judgment calls on individuals, that's very dangerous.