Essentially, what is "game"?

Also, what is "it"

Can we break down what it is
 
I'd say it's a lot like the famous minimalist definition of charm:

Game is the art of getting the answer 'yes' without having asked a question.
 
"game" is a marketing scheme used by men to exploit beta boy's wallet.

to get women so to speak. i believe90% is look based. 10 percent being a human being that can string a sentence together.
 
Can you spit it like a mouf full of poker chips?

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Game is all about entertaining ho's while you're trying to find a girl that isn't a ho so you can lock her down for life and stop worrying about wasting time entertaining ho's that you really don't give a fuck about.
 
"game" is a marketing scheme used by men to exploit beta boy's wallet.

I mean being charming obviously helps picking up women but 99% of the time people who use the word "game" are relating it to some neo sociopath snakeoil.

What always come across to me as well is that these people claim they've experienced "nice guys finish last" yet very few of them appear very "nice" at all to me. What they really mean is that my creepy and easy to spot "nice guy act" didn't work.
 
"game" is a marketing scheme used by men to exploit beta boy's wallet.

to get women so to speak. i believe90% is look based. 10 percent being a human being that can string a sentence together.
I agree with this to a certain extent, I've met up with women, acted like a complete fool, yet still scored because they had it in their head that I was the one they wanted at that particular time.

However, to say that you can't learn how to be more charismatic and social is just nonsense. Otherwise there would be no sales training programs, companies would just hire salesman based on whether they "had it" or not.
 
4 minutes of game


(anyway, apart from the obvious and elusive 'basic attraction' i think trust is the key component when it comes to a woman opening up to a man)
 
Based on the OP I don't think you want a definition, I think you want a strategy guide. There's obviously not some cookie-cutter evening story that encapsulates the entire concept.

Having "game" just means knowing how to behave to get optimal results out of whatever attractiveness you happen to possess.
 
Seems like "game" for men is essentially the ol' "playin' hard to get" that girls used to do all the time.

However, if you meet a girl you really like, you can also just sweep them off their feet. I did that with my wife back when I met her. I was tired of bullshit dating games; I met her, really liked her and just pursued her with all the humour and charm I could muster. I was pretty open about that I thought she was great and we should be together. By the second date she was mine.
 
In the romantic sense, what does having good "game" mean? I want to use this thread to discuss it and break it down to a fundamental concept. If possible.

How I understand it. You meet a girl on a night out or at a party, you need to have enough confidence to approach her, ask her a few questions, be charming/friendly and then ask her if she's interested in coffee/dinner some time.

If she says yes and seems excited. Exchange numbers. But don't be too excited or show too much emotion. "Game" and the concept of attraction is her not knowing exactly where she stands with you, do you really like her or not? Who knows?

You go on a date for dinner/coffee. Get to know each other a little, have fun. Then end the date. Ask her out again a week later, be chill, calm and cool. No showing any emotions of affection of that you are liking her. No "looking forward to seeing you again" type messages. Instant attraction killers ....

The next time, invite her out closer to your house/ around for dinner.

Wait until you are for certain that she is into you and then make a move, go for a kiss.

So, game is essentially, showing a girl interest, spending some time together, but not doing anything goofy or overly affectionate so that she doesn't know where she stands with you, then when you are sure that she really likes you, you make a move.

Can anyone break it down better than this?

You're giving it too much thought, just let things happen, it really is that easy. Earlier this year, I went to a basketball game with a buddy on a Thursday. We went to a bar after and I ran into a girl I used to play co-ed softball with. I always thought she was very hot and we had hung out before in groups with our mutual friends, beach and concerts that type of stuff. It starts to get packed, my buddy leaves, I tell her I'm going home you're welcome to come hang out. We get beer and play pool in my garage all night and I order her an uber home right before I go to work. The very next Thursday she hits me up asking if I'm going to that bar I said sure lets meet up. We go for a walk, I give her my hoodie. The very next Thursday same deal she asks if I'm going out so she can return my hoodie. This time we hook up. There was no overthinking or making a move, we just kept having fun and she instigated things that particular night. In my experience, over thinking things doesn't work, just don't come off as desperate and act like your reality should be, whether they say yes or no you're fine moving along to the next adventure.
 
Game is a combination of a lot of things.

Amongst them is verbal fluidity, receptiveness, ability to convey and acknowledge attractiveness.

Truth Is game is alot like talking to a really good Freind (with the exception of talking about attraction n shiet). Basically girls that are into you aren't outright telling you. They are laughing at your jokes, continuing discussions and prolonging them so you can initiate. Game is the ability to close all these gaps in a charming way and to be able to take the freindly banter to sexual escalation.

For real though go to a club and drop some MDMA. If you have half a brain you will discover what game is real quick.
 
"Whatever works personality-wise to get girls" is the simplest I can put it.

Another way to think of it is as a tweakable model. When a guy first tries to get girls he's going to make a lot of mistakes (being clingy, showing too much emotion, lack of confidence, etc.). Assuming the guy has some sense, he'll correct those mistakes to make sure they never happen again, thus improving his model. The guy's sex life will improve a bit, but he'll of course make new mistakes until he corrects those and improves his sex life further. And so on...

After countless edits/tweaks, the guy's model for getting girls will be like a well-oiled machine that he can use even if he is ugly as hell on a certain day. Learning how to write fiction for me was also creating a tweakable model.

***This shit is why I'm so lucky to be with my fiancee. I never needed any game and we've been ultra emotional and romantic from day one. I just needed to be genuine with her and that was enough. Even better, I never have to deal with the typical emotional games girls play either (I don't even need to think about that bs). That said, I'd DEFINITELY need game for any other girl because being real/genuine won't work with most girls.

That's really good to hear.

I think that's probably why my game was historically so weak, because i have had relationships work when I was just open and honest from the beginning, too. Particularly when I was younger ...

This led me to believe that this was the "blueprint" and all you had to do is just tell a girl how you feel ... cuz "hey, it worked before, right?"

But, then you get a big fat reality check!
 
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