Escaping the Three Quarter Hold?

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  1. Zankou

    Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I got pinned with this at my last tournament, and had no way to get out. I was in no danger of submission, but I couldn't escape for the life of me. Anybody know good escapes to this hold?

    For those who don't know the name (and I may not be using the right name), it's like North South except the guy tilts to one side a bit and uses and over/under grip on your arms. As hard as N/S can be to escape from once it's settled in, I feel the 3/4 is even worse.
     
  2. FLMikeATT

    FLMikeATT Purple Belt

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    Isn't that a Judo pin? I remember seeing it on the Kosen judo vids.
     
  3. Calibur

    Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    Here is a North/South escape that I have never seen explained. I'm not sure this is the exact position that is giving you problem though. Let me know.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=mfx0u9wa-5c
     
  4. DaRuckus337

    DaRuckus337 Black Belt

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    Hmmm, do you mean the double armbar/chicken wing used to pin this poor, poor boy by that girl in red?

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    or do you mean this (a 3/4 nelson)?

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  5. Zankou

    Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That is exactly it, and that's a super-technical explanation of how to deal with it. It's not like any other escape. Perfect find, thanks bro. I will study this. :icon_chee
     
  6. Calibur

    Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    No problems. Vandry's basic spider guard explanation on youtube really helped my transition game too.
     
  7. Thalion

    Thalion Green Belt

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    Kuzure Kami shiho?

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    some exit

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    Beware that to attack from that position they change tu Ushiro Kesa gatame

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    And from that to Hara Gatame
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  8. ShanghaiBJJ

    ShanghaiBJJ Brown Belt

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    As always, make space little by little by little.

    Against north/ south type pins, I find using the hips and feet to slide down very important and then bringing the knees in to spider guard typr action to create space.
    Or if possible roll over.

    If the guy is only intend on pinning your ass to the mat, it can be a BITCH!

    In that case, I just wait til he needs a potty break.


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  9. Thalion

    Thalion Green Belt

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    Here a Video from Mike Swain judo series , about Pin.

    From minute 5 show kami shio, kuzure kami shio and how escape from that position

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPcWp2sEEd8

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