Escaping back take from turtle (transition) "Granby" style

[goatfury]

New tutorial of my favorite way to escape the back take in transition:

http://hubpages.com/sports/Escaping-the-back-take-from-turtle-a-BJJ-Tutorial

Happy training!

 

[goatfury]

ttt

 

[LiT_WiCK]

This is my favorite scramble/escape... Sometimes I run into problems against higher belts; If it worked once and they anticipate it, they can turn it into a leg drag and pass--but that is the case with anything if your oppt is one step ahead

 

[josh345]

Weird question. Years ago when I was training MMA at the very end of a sparring session this guy was trying to take me down and we rolled and I got his back then the buzzer rang shortly after that. I can't remember if he had wrist control or not. Does that still count as successfully taking someone's back even if he had wrist control? We were both sitting up when I he the back and were not lying there.

 

[goatfury]

This is my favorite scramble/escape... Sometimes I run into problems against higher belts; If it worked once and they anticipate it, they can turn it into a leg drag and pass--but that is the case with anything if your oppt is one step ahead

I will often use this to set up leglocks as well, grabbing the backstep position (or kneebar type position), if that makes sense. Same core movement, but more hunting for the foot vs really good guys.

 

[LiT_WiCK]

Weird question. Years ago when I was training MMA at the very end of a sparring session this guy was trying to take me down and we rolled and I got his back then the buzzer rang shortly after that. I can't remember if he had wrist control or not. Does that still count as successfully taking someone's back even if he had wrist control? We were both sitting up when I he the back and were not lying there.

in a bjj contest i think the most important thing is getting your hooks in

 

[goatfury]

in a bjj contest i think the most important thing is getting your hooks in

While it's true that this constitutes points in a sport BJJ match (provided you have some measure of upper body control), in my experience, the harness is a lot harder to escape by itself than the hooks by themselves, if that makes sense.

 

[josh345]

While it's true that this constitutes points in a sport BJJ match (provided you have some measure of upper body control), in my experience, the harness is a lot harder to escape by itself than the hooks by themselves, if that makes sense.

Is there a way to turn a back mount into an advantageous position if you don't have hooks all the way in or full upper body control ? It was so long ago lol. I think my arms were around his chest bear hugging him and my legs were around his waiste too then the bell rang. Damn I was all proud thinking "yes! I got his back!" Haha.

 

[goatfury]

Is there a way to turn a back mount into an advantageous position if you don't have hooks all the way in or full upper body control ? It was so long ago lol. I think my arms were around his chest bear hugging him and my legs were around his waiste too then the bell rang. Damn I was all proud thinking "yes! I got his back!" Haha.

Yes, absolutely. If you're training in the gi, a clock choke is a great option. If it's no-gi (or gi), the crucifix works great. Here's one way to get there:

http://hubpages.com/sports/OverUnder-Pass-Defense-to-Crucifix-a-BJJ-Tutorial

 

[JosephDredd]

I don't want to sound like I'm stealing Goatfury's thunder -- I don't mean to and I hope I'm not because I've learned a lot from him -- but if people think this would really enhance their game I suggest they look into Eduard Telles' DVD series. He uses this movement (slightly different, but essentially the same) EVERYWHERE -- as an escape from side control, as guard retention, as a standing takedown -- and I can say that I broke through a longstanding plateau by practising Telles' stuff. Telles was so out of the box he actually turned bottom turtle into a guard. Combine that with Sakuraba's bottom turtle aggression and you'll be begging people to take your back.

 

[goatfury]

I don't want to sound like I'm stealing Goatfury's thunder -- I don't mean to and I hope I'm not because I've learned a lot from him -- but if people think this would really enhance their game I suggest they look into Eduard Telles' DVD series. He uses this movement (slightly different, but essentially the same) EVERYWHERE -- as an escape from side control, as guard retention, as a standing takedown -- and I can say that I broke through a longstanding plateau by practising Telles' stuff. Telles was so out of the box he actually turned bottom turtle into a guard. Combine that with Sakuraba's bottom turtle aggression and you'll be begging people to take your back.

100% right. Telles is the man! So much fun to watch and study.